Thanks for the discussion. I appreciate why it would seem crazy to you. I contemplated a 3rd party vote but in the end couldn't line up with that either.

It was very difficult to sit out. Hopefully I have conveyed the degree of difficulty both on that day and every day since.

It is why I can say with a great deal of certainty that while I'm still not sure what exactly I will do on election day, I can say for certain I will not sit on the sidelines again.

Edit: perhaps I missed part of your point. If by previously you mean in the primaries, I did vote. I live in WI. By the time it got here it was Ted Cruz vs. Trump. I voted for Cruz and he carried WI. Even by then it was too late.

That said, Cruz was very very far down my list of the 20+ originals who started. So again, put into historical context, I was already pretty frustrated with the Rep party in general by the time the general came around. Despite all the deflection here, we still put Trump up. And in my case it was already down to the lesser of two bad R's by the time things rolled around here.

Add on a "protest" vote going to Hillary. I chose to sit out. And I'm still struggling with that choice.

Nice but not what I know. My son is currently deployed to a warzone (receives combat pay) in Iraq. That war is not actually over either.

Thank you as well.

Fewer, dammit!

I wouldn't worry about it. Its already paid for. They keep in the money in the vault where they put all of our guns.

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You know, and maybe I am just spitballing here, but just because you vote for someone doesn’t mean you have to defend them for the next 4 years. It’s ok to say “man, I backed A fucking moron. This guys is a human wasteland.”

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Fuck. Sorry about that. Usually I don’t mess that one up. I’ll try to be better.

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Probably true.

But in a forum like this where assholes like you are all over everything every minute with no skin in the actual game the natural reaction is going to be to defend.

You spend full time trying to guess and get people who didn’t vote for him to defend themselves. When the only thing we know for sure is your sorry Canuck ass didn’t vote for anybody but Pierre Trudeau or whoever is the king of your shithole these days

That's my biggest gripe.

It was thought that Trump's narcissism could be an asset that offset its detriments. The asset was going to be that he would listen to the populace as he desired to be popular.

The problem is, his base continues to support him no matter how awful he is. If they would simply hold him accountable for anything, he might be at least somewhat tolerable.


But, no. Turns out 40% of our country is just a bunch of assholes.

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Fine, but that's still a far cry from "Evil Jews"... Hell, our country has done some fucked-up repugnant shit before too, but I wouldn't jump from recognizing 'America's evil doings' to calling the USA an 'Evil country' nor make a blanket slur calling us all 'Evil Americans'. Rep. Omar is free to criticize Israel when it's warranted (whether or not she's secretly a raging anti-Semite deep down) just like she's free to criticize her own country ~ ours, and Trump's (you know, one of the countries "whose government is a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world".)

Snowflake, I am sorry that my presence offends you so deeply.

Please retreat to your safe space and say ten hail Trumps.

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Um no. One thing I have learned is that it’s not ok to criticize Israel.

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It doesn’t offend me it gives me a great deal of entertainment to watch you rail about Trump. And it never gets old. No matter how many threads you start or jump into saying the exact same thing over and over hoping to garner more attention for yourself.

Besides. It’s all so insightful and well thought out.

In fact as a reward why don’t you post here who you would actually vote for in a US Democratic Primary. And why. Instead of just why trump sucks dazzle us with who is better and who you would vote for. You know, if you actually could vote. Then I promise when the Dem primaries roll around in my state I will vote for your candidate on your behalf. You know, because I actually can vote for someone other than Justin Mulroney or Margaret Thatcher or Rob Ford or whoever’s emperor of that shithole country of yours these days.


#MCGFO

Make Canada Great For Once!!!

Justin Thatcher is the best.

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Why haven't you ever apologized to me for offending me with your presence???

RACIST!!!

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Stop apologizing, it makes you look weak. Instead, try saying something like:

"Snowflake, I am sorry that my presence offends you so deeply.


Please retreat to your safe space and say ten hail Trumps."

Well you do live in that shithole suburb of Milwaukee. Do you people even speak American down there????

Yeah except for that new RACIST song of his that’s not even sung in American.

It's funny to me that some of you are questioning this now. You guys need to go back and read the threads during the primary, especially the exchanges between me and ironmayb. It started with a firm belief Trump could not win the nomination because he is not a conservative and not a Republican. It then turned into what could best be described as "distraught" when Trump won the nomination. Then were the discussions about voting 3rd party or sitting out of the election, coupled with an full-fledged belief Hillary was going to win in a landslide. Being honest - that sincerely held belief made it easier to place a principled vote (or to abstain). Go back and read my posts. I had it ALL laid out - Hillary wins the election, 2018 midterms are a MASSIVE GOP take-over of both houses of Congress, followed by the ass-kicking of the century for Hillary in 2020.

At the time, no one questioned the fact that a number of us were going to sit out or vote 3rd party. At the time, a number of people in the LR thought my prediction had a lot of merit.

Now, I don't recall if you, specifically, were involved in those thread discussions. But, I know BLeP was. So, it's a bit pathetic when some posters act like this is something recently fabricated.

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Not well ...

And, Trump keeps trying to build a wall around my house. WTF???

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Trump sucks. Anybody who voted for him is an asshole

But you voted for him and won’t admit it. Yeah you did. You are a RACIST ballwasher!!!

But I’m a woke Canadian. Which means I couldn’t do shit.

But let’s get back to You Ballwasher.

Over and over and over.

Anyway, you and your Puerto Rican family should just go back to that shithole suburb of yours and fix your shit there.

Feel free to say ten hail Trumps. But I don’t apologize to lawyers. Filthy scum.

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If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers

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If I could I would vote for Biden. Why? Because he’s milquetoast. Not offensive enough to anyone.

Sure the far lefties will bitch and moan about ‘old white guy’ but some will still vote for him because they hate Trump. Some people from the other side will vote for him because he’s not Trump and he’s not Far left crazy.

Also GOPers in general have shown that they don’t mind voting for a guy that gropes women so there’s that too.

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and just to add. We were having this discussion as voters in WI that had gone blue in Presidential elections since 1984!!!!!!!!!