Am I the only one that sees an Iron Cross?

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I am shocked they would make a disc wheel when they have told us over and over that their non disc wheels are fastest.

I think what they said, was, that for your typical triathlete (and their riding speeds), their "regular" deep wheels were nearly as fast as a disc, and had other advantages (or didn't have the disadvantages of a disc). And therefore were a better choice as an all around race wheel for those athletes.

The argument has gone that most triathletes are pretty insecure when a disc wheel takes a surging cross-wind . . . so they slow down. The ENVE deep wheel is more stable in a stiff cross-wind than a full disc, so it is faster for the rider who is "insecure" in a stiff cross-wind.

Except cross winds don't really matter with a disc wheel

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A bit off topic - In other pics, it was interesting that Cannondale was the only TT bike with disc brakes. A little surprising. I noticed that there's a nice mix of disc brake bikes on the regular stages.

For people interested in watching TOC and the Giro, check out Fubo.tv. It's pretty good so far.

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Bingo. If anything a disc wheel in the rear makes a bike more stable. I ran a 303/disc setup one year that was seemingly immune to cross winds.

I wonder if they'll adopt Mavic's Road UST standard? They're both owned by the same holding company, no? It would be a sensible thing to do considering that adopting Road UST wouldn't preclude the use of other tires and, at the end of the day, it's more of a dimensional tolerance specification than anything else.

Waiting until July- that's when all the goodies come out.

hummm,,,, time to think about selling the Super9... I can live with my Enve 7.8 until this comes out.

I'd miss the 9's whomp whomp

I could care less about ENVE and their wheel. After claiming triathletes don't need disc wheels, they won't get any money from me.

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Plus, it’s not disc brake compatibility. So, no point in spending money on it.

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I expect them to offer it considering Specialized and Zipp have disc brake disc wheels.

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I hear you on that.

Here's a close-up look at the new Disc: Link

It's actually pretty cool. It will be very spendy from what I understand.

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Interesting that they came out with a disc so soon after Specialized. I’m guessing both of these companies will stick a price tag of well over 2k on them. People will drink the marketing juice and buy them despite Flo, Hed, Renn, Aerocoach, etc all making discs just as fast (and perhaps faster) for a third the cost

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Both they and Specialized can keep their wheels at that price. I will keep my money and train more or go get a bike fit or do any number of other things then pay that price for a disc that probably isn't that much better for a slow athlete like me than run of the mill disc wheels that have great sound. :) Or maybe buy a HED disc? Wait then I have a Zipp 808 front and then a HED Disc.....thats blasphemy....ok I'll stick with my 808's. :P

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I just set my PR by 30+ seconds on my little sprint route on 7.8s.. Only 1w more was used versus my PR time last year on the Super9/808, hmmmm. Already sold the 808.. super9 next.

Sounds super scientific.

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it's not but it's enough for me... I will buy a disc wheel again, dont get me wrong. Probably either Enve's or Roval 321 but will get a disc brake version. The 7.8 is fast enough for me that it will hold me over till I convert Road and TT bikes to disc versions... seems the market is going that way.

LOL

There are tons of other factors that can cause that instead of the wheels. Your "test" goes against all knowledge from wind tunnel studies and CFD. And 1W? Power meters are +/- 1.5% accurate. You have just become ENVE's target customer.

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dont worry .. I want disc wheels :)

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Good find. It could be?

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There it is.

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That pic you posted is not the final production version. It'll be live tomorrow.

Any ideas of the price point on that sexy MF'er?

Tomorrow...

https://enve.com/products/ses-disc/

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Approximately 3x my HED black disc.

Wow check out those recommended tire pressures. maybe those numbers have been available before with their other wheels but 68psi for my weight (170lbs) on 23mm tires? That seems suspiciously low.

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Tubeless, like the 7.8's

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Off topic-I bet that’s a seek peek of the ENVE Racing team kit. i wonder what kind of discounts the team will have.

-that’s a pricy wheel.

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It's expensive but it's in line with Zipp and Roval.

I like the molded cutout. Zipp needs to add that soon.

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https://aerogeeks.com/...ses-disc-first-look/

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Kona is arguably the top IM. Does Kona allow disc wheels? Give me the time you save in an IM by using a rear disc over the ENVE 7.8. Triathletes aiming for Kona certainly do not need disc wheels.

Uh...what?


Kona is arguably the top IM. YES, it is the IM WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP

Does Kona allow disc wheels? No

Give me the time you save in an IM by using a rear disc over the ENVE 7.8. ???? So you'd rather use a non-disc in an IM? Why wouldn't you use the fastest wheel combination allowed? If you used a disk you wouldn't need anyone to give you the time lost with 7.8s

Triathletes aiming for Kona certainly do not need disc wheels. Certainly? Its a race. Again, why not use the faster wheel available? Especially when slots are decided by seconds.

Did you buy it new? It's less the 2x from what I can see but would love to know if there is a discount somewhere

So it’s 220 grams (~0.5 lb) heavier than the Roval with 0.5mm narrower inner diameter (18.5mm vs. 19).

The only reasons you buy this over the Roval is a) braking; b) looks; or c) to be matchy matchy with your 7.8 front

SwissSide is also coming out with a disc (early) next year.

Is Aerocoach's disc a clincher?

agreed... 220g savings matchy-matchy no longer required.. I'd sooner put roval stickers on my Enve front :)

That Roval disc is really nice

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Agreed the price tag is super pretentious. Also the Roval for 1/2 lb lighter is now even more appealing.

Anyone notice that they claim it's only for pros and elite age groupers who ride 27mph or faster? When did physics start discriminating?

Somebody should have told AJ that to put his chain on the big chainring instead of cross-chaining like that :-)

Getting in late here, but OH SHIT?!?!? $2700 for a disc wheel? That's steep!

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Yup, AeroCoach is a clincher (there's a tub version for the track and tandems, I think). I should be getting mine next week...

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Is there a difference in rim shape between rim and disc brake versions? might have missed it...

or 4-5x my Flo

And worse braking (for non disc version)

Why is everyone so taken with aerocoach? Ive seen numerous of their arm pads snap during normal use, doesnt give me confidence Im afraid.

Stupid cheap.

Dunno, why are people smitten with any other company? They seem to put out reasonably-priced products with a dead-on focus on going fast. Chainrings, armpads for aero positioning, and now wheels.

I have their arm-pads. Thick, sturdy plastic far stiffer than the Bontragers I had on previously. No problems in the last few months... Their aero work convinced me, they're cheaper to obtain than FLO (in my country), so I ordered a set. Hope not to be disappointed.

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Words, in that order, that do not make me want to buy from this company.

when did it ever not?

Sounds like Enve is the disc for you. :)

Their arm pads are snapping? Or the bolts anchoring the pads are snapping?
I have the pads and they are crazy stiff.

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I have personally seen 2 arm pads on different bikes owned by different people snapping. The problem with stiff plastic is that it will snap when impacted in the right area. From what I saw a few repeated bumps when down on the aerobars while riding rough roads was enough to do it. They may have fixed the issue now I guess.

Just read this on the Cycling News/Bike Radar article:

Surely that can't be as bad as it sounds?! What if I wanted to run a normal tyre (i.e. non-tubeless) that has a normal bead stiffness? Is it going to be completely out of dish?!

Either way, I can't afford one and nor am I fast enough to benefit from one apparently! :D