I was just about to post this story. Well, I'm a little shocked but not surprised at the suicide. I followed this story closely as it just amazed me how someone as successful as Hernandez could go from hero to zero. I guess its one thing to commit murder, but to go from an NFL star to spending your life in prison is another. I guess I feel somewhat sorry for his daughter, but at the same time, I think he did everyone a favour, including himself, for just putting an end to a pathetic existence and tragic nightmare.

Wasn't he just found not guilty or am I mixing up stories here?

He was found not guilty on two other murder charges

He was doing life for the 2013 murder of Odin Lloyd

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I guess prison isn't all its cracked up to be.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Yesterday, or Monday, Michelle McPhee while on a local (Boston) sports show stated that the reason for the first murder was that Odin Lloyd knew that Hernandez was gay and he was talking about it. The radio show had a former inmate (a regular caller) on who claimed to speak with Hernandez yesterday and he was distraught with the news. Said that gangs don't tolerate homosexuality and that it would be trouble for him in prison... Not sure I buy any of it, but that constituted 90% of today's commute.

I guess the Life part of Thug Life didn't live up to his expectations.

Hopefully the families he destroyed will sleep easier tonight.

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Good for him. He did what the state was afraid to do.

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I can never celebrate someone committing suicide.

I also think it's probably just hard to be a celebrity in prison, especially one whose life was about physical toughness. I'd imagine lots of people would want to take a run at him to take him down a peg or boost their own cred. News said he wasn't in gen pop when he hanged himself - can't imagine solitary confinement at MCI Shirley did anything good for his mental state.

On the way into work this morning the local news radio station had a legal analyst on who said there is precedent in Massachusetts for conviction abatement. John Salvi (Brookline abortion clinic mass murderer - committed suicide months after conviction) and John Geoghan (pedophile priest - murdered by fellow inmate after conviction) both had their convictions abated after review by the state supreme court. It would be a shame for Odin Lloyd's family to have to go through this once again.

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We should offer more opportunity to inmates to let them chose their way out.

You & Sweeney are fucked up. There's no redemption in any situation like this.

i agrew with you and windywave

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Just for the record (so you can keep your streak of disagreeing with me alive) I'd have executed him. Same outcome but different means.

I read a comment on a Yahoo article: "he died doing what he loved - killing people"

Weirdest thing is the timing. He was JUST acquitted on the double murder. His lawyer, Jose Baez, just got done saying that he thinks Aaron will eventually get out of prison and that acquittal was the first step in that direction. Why now? It's bizarre, but so has been this entire story.

Pretty sad all around, I won't bemoan his death but I also won't celebrate it. He was a phenomenal athlete but an idiotic, morally corrupt human. It's a shame that his family, friends, teammates, whoever really cared for him couldn't find a way to help steer him in the right direction.

goddamn i love dark humor

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quite a reasonable position.

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Sad but good. Why will an autopsy and investigation take place when the cause of death is known?

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More on the abatement process, would also invalidate any civil proceedings against him. Basically giving the finger to the victim's families on the way out:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/...Aze0ttpvJ/story.html

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I agree. There are thousands of ways he still could have made a positive mark on the world.

I agree. Doubt it helps the families of his victims but they will have their own thoughts on that. Doesn't bring anyone back.

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Did you read the comments on Bleacher Report?

"Man, this guy cannot stop killing!"

"Well, at least he died doing what he loved."

"I guess he decided to suspend himself before Goodell could do it."

"Hernandez just took out a serial killer! The NFL should retire his jersey for that!"

"Sad. He had his whole life sentence ahead of him ..."

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Because his attorney tweeted out this morning that this could be murder. No, I am not kidding.

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That's not absurd

Fucking lawyers.

Sure it is and it is irresponsible for an officers of the court to make a comment like that without any inkling of support.

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This.

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Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.

Not out of the realm of possibility; seems highly unlikely BUT where is his motive for suicide at this particular juncture, vs someone elses motive now that he has a sliver of a chance to see the free world again? Is there anything that he has on someone else inside? He's also a celebrity prisoner, that's never a good thing.

I'd say the chances of him being murdered are almost zero, but they're not zero. I heard a CO on the radio this morning say the state police investigate all prison suicides.

1. He just won acquittal on his latest murder charge, but, after, his attorney had to remind him he still have a life sentence without the possibility of parole. The emotional high and low is a trigger.

2. Today is the day the Patriots visit the White House. Reminder of what he threw away.

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I know this sounds odd, but maybe he was more comfortable in prison and the possibility of getting out and being absolutely broke scared him.

Being convicted of multiple murders might have helped his stature in prison.

I'm looking for odd explanations because his suicide at this point is odd.

Again, I'm not saying it's likely, only possible. You have to admit it's a bit odd for him to have done this just after the acquittal. Being convicted to life in prison a year ago, sitting through weeks of the double-murder trial, getting acquitted, hearing from his lawyer that this might prove helpful on appeal and then deciding to kill himself.

If someone took him out they would have to have drugged him, choked him out, something, so there'd be fairly clear evidence in an autopsy imo. I just don't entirely rule that option out, as unlikely as it is.

I don't think it is that odd. I really think he went through a roller coaster of emotion in winning his last trial, then having the reality that it really did not matter sink in.

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Because as I said, he has discovered that prison isn't fun. And yeah, some day he might get out, but until then he's stuck in his own personal hell.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

So no one is ever murdered in prison?

Not when they are locked in their own cell at night.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

The reports I read said he was in a single cell and had barricaded the door inside to apparently keep help from getting in easily. That doesn't sound like murder, unless Ellen Page did it.....

Lynching?

I'm with Brownie it's unlikely but not outside the realm of possibility

Far fewer than are murdered on the streets of Chicago.

Suicide is the leading cause of deaths in prison, followed by heart disease.

I know you are struggling to make a point here, but you are failing miserably.

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And as I said, he was sentenced to life in prison a year ago. The timing is odd, that's my only point...a few days after an acquittal that gave him a sliver of hope.

He almost certainly did it but JSA highlighted my comment about not having much motive at this time; I'm merely saying that the timing is odd.

I'm just saying that the idea he was murdered is not outside the realm of possibility. That's all. you've adopted an absolute position I have not.

That's a hell of a trick ....

Hernandez was in a single cell in a general population housing unit in the maximum security state prison. He hanged himself using a bed sheet that he attached to a cell window, Fallon said.


Hernandez tried to block the cell door from the inside by jamming the door with various items, Fallon said.

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Wonderful still doesn't mitigate my point

It is also within the realm of possibility that he wet his bed and was hanging the sheets from the window to dry when he got the sheets wrapped around his neck, slipped, and fell, accidently strangling himself.

But, it would be irresponsible (albeit less so) for his attorney to tweet that story.

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Seriously??? Ok, then you are beyond help.

Wow.

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Get busy living... or get busy dying. That's God Damned right.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Yeah me too...no question he was a bad guy but I never take solace in a life wasted.

So brave.

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Another speculative motive I've heard thrown around is that he was trying to preserve assets for his family to avoid getting cleaned out by a wrongful death suit on the civil side. No idea whether that has any merit.

His estate can and will be sued, so this does nothing to protect his assets. If he was receiving good counsel, he would have put his assets in a trust for his daughter long ago.

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Oh, understood and agreed that it's not a successful plan. Point of the speculation was as to his possible state of mind - dude doesn't seem to have been the most clearheaded guy with a knack for evaluating long term consequences. Whether counsel advised him on this, who knows - one would think so, but don't know.

Reminds me of windywave:


A crooked sheriff in a small down was extorting the business owners to pay him for protection. The owner of the auto parts store refused, despite multiple threats by the sheriff. A few days later, the sheriff was called to the home of the auto parts store owner. The sheriff walked into the barn where he found the store owner hanging by neck, hands and feet bound, throat slit, and 5 gunshots, including one to the head. The sheriff spit the tobacco from his mouth and uttered aloud, "worst damn case of suicide I ever did see!"

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If he was murdered will you get a giant Jay cutler tattoo on your back? Things happen in jail. Highly likely he killed himself (approaching one) but not impossible he didn't.

Exactly

I don't have any blank space on my back.

It's also possible he wet his bed, hung the sheets from the window to dry, got them caught around his neck, slipped, fell, and accidently hung himself ...

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I have nothing to add. I just want to how long we can get this quote bracket.

We have yet to find the limits, but, I wanted to see whether we can make it an entire page.












Or more.

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I'm certain that the quote brackets can extend to a page or so. Maybe.

This needs it's own thread. Let's call it Worst. Thread. Ever.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Fine a face tattoo

Surely someone/some group is going to try to pin his actions on CTE

He was fantasy gold for a few seasons. That's the only positive thing I can think of.

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I read this somewhere else.

Perhaps he was referring to the abatement issue (see post 23 above). Although that doesn't preclude recovery, just makes for much more work in the civil case.

Probably legally required for any death while in custody.

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Neck.

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Whatever. Still not as bad of a choke as the Atlanta Falcons.

At least he wasn't wearing a dress

I can hardly watch Kung Fu or Kill Bill the same way after that

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What makes you think I have any room on my face???

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Well, they could just tattoo Trump's balls and it would look like you have a face tattoo.

There is no more blank skin for any new tattoos - ball sacks and Jay Cutler (but I repeat myself) included.

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Could be. Nobody seems to be talking about the fact that Hernandez's conviction will likely be overturned now. That certainly does not preclude liability in a civil trial (see, e.g., OJ Simpson). But, yeah, it will create more work.

Explanation for anyone interested:

http://hosted.ap.org/...=2017-04-19-14-05-31

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Shave your head... electrolysis and then a cutler tattoo

from what i read on cnn, abatement is mandatory so hernandez died an innocent man (as far as convictions go)

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It isn't mandatory. His attorneys have to petition the court and the court has to decide. While it may be nearly automatic, it is not automatic and it does not happen on its own. So, he died a convicted murderer.

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automatic is actually the word i should have used. not mandatory. If I remember correctly I believe the article said that it is only automatic because of a quirkiness in the law there.

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Again, it is not automatic. His lawyers have to file for it. The Court has to approve it. The Court has the power and authority to deny the request. If granted, it is no retroactive to before his death. Therefore, he died a convicted killer. He could be exonerated at a later date, but that does not change the fact he died a convicted killer.

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http://www.cnn.com/...abatement/index.html

i understand what you're saying. i was just correcting myself. i found the article i mentioned.

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Additional details coming out: he was found with "John 3:16"' written on his forehand in red marker, also written on the wall of his cell. Boston Globe also reporting that he spoke with his fiancée by phone Tuesday night before 8:00 p.m.

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I think it is obvious that he didn't this to himself.

I wonder where he came up with that ...

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Good thinking

As far as I know, they don't have mirrors in prison cells [a prisoner could break the glass & make a shiv], and I doubt Hernandez had the patience or presence of mind to freehand it

I could be wrong, though

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They often have a piece of reflective metal on the wall to use as a mirror. But, why would he need a mirror? Very easy to free hand it.

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Like I said, I could be wrong

[I guess not many people around here admit they DON'T know everything?]

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Latest Globe report is medical examiner officially rules it suicide by asphyxiation. Family has requested brain be donated to ongoing Boston University study that has found CTE in numerous former athletes.

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I am sure he died this way just not of his own doing.

I'm guessing it was Antman or Nightcrawler. It was someone who was able to barricade the door from the inside, then get out ...

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That's only what they want you to believe!

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Come on you usually don't fall for these alternative facts. Just like this guy hung himself too. Uh no.. on both counts.

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 Well it is more fun! Leave my cat alone weirdo!

Is it too soon for Aaron Hernandez memes?

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Three suicide notes found: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/...ay-prison-LOVER.html

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Planned his suicide for weeks. Jammed cardboard in the door to stall entry. Left 3 suicide notes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/...ay-prison-LOVER.html

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quote JSA]Planned his suicide for weeks. Jammed cardboard in the door to stall entry. Left 3 suicide notes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/...ay-prison-LOVER.html[/quote]


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I saw that one, but didn't have the balls to post it. Dan's ban finger is warmed up and ready to get banging.

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Oh man..I should not get banned for that. Well I can try to take it down now.

I still think this is propaganda and that a rival gang did this.

I agree it is not normally ban-worthy. But, I have been poking the bear a little bit and worry that once Dan figures out I regularly post as JSA, BarryP, slowguy, and Duffy, this would give him the final excuse to ban us ... I mean me ...

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Seems this story just keeps getting stranger. Eariler in the thread someoen mentioned the report over the weekend that there were rumblings of a gay lover in prison, if true maybe that's part of the problem? But I also heard on the radio a few former inmates calling in saying in their experience, the motto is 'it ain't gay if it's in prison' (paraphrased).

Such a strange, sad story all around. Gotta feel bad for the kid, above all. Hopefully she's able to be removed from all of this as much as possible and live a reasonably normal life.