Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget"

May 11, 14 22:19

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I spent quite a bit of time building up this bike, well at least thinking about the build. I was between two bikes, this and the Scott Plasma Premium. I came across a deal on the 3T Aduro Bars and couldn't pass it up. I knew they would work great on the NP3 so I ended up going with the NP3. I was going to go with the Tririg bar as an alternate. I was previously on a 2008 P3. I was waiting to sell that bike and my older road bike before making the purchase. It started pushing later and later into the season before they sold, but once they did the bike build started. It was finished on a Wednesday and I raced it that Saturday at Galveston 70.3. Luckily my fitter, David Wenger of Durata Training in Austin had to make very minimal adjustments to the fit. Big thanks to JackMott for his input on the build!

The Build:
Frame- 2014 Cervelo NP3 Size 56
Gruppo- Ultegra Electronic 11spd Shifters, Front Derailleur, Seat Tube Battery, Junction Box, and 10spd Rear Derailleur
Brakes- TriRig
Powermeter- Quarq with 172.5mm Cranks
Bike Computer- Garmin Edge 510
Race Wheels- HED JET Disc / JET 9 w/ Continental Force/Attack & Conti Butyl Tubes w/ Orange Seal
Race Skewers- View Speed Skewers
Training Wheels: HED Ardennes
Saddle- ISM Attack (spare tube goes under saddle, not pictured due to flatting yesterday and haven't put a new one back there)
Cockpit- 3T Aduro Bars off of P5
-- Bar Tape- Arundel Bar Tape on Extensions and 3M "Grip" tape on the drops
Bento Box- Dark Speed Works (Inside is small pump, CO2 Adapter, CO2 canister, Valve Extender, quick chain master link, Shimano 5 Port junction box, View Speed tool kit, and on race day 2 Honey Stinger bars)
Bottle Cages- Arundel Mandible
Pedals- Time iClic
Shoes- Specialized S-Works

Bike Fitter- David Wenger of Durata Training

More Pictures can be found here: https://www.dropbox.com/...EqXxUkl9oUq_hbdNqYKa

-Brad Williams
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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 11, 14 23:12

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Awesome build. Probably won't be many like it given then Aduro bars.

Maybe I missed it, but didn't see the size on there. 56?

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [AndresLD] [ In reply to ]

May 11, 14 23:18

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Yeah, 56 just edited it with it on there.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 2:20

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Great looking ride! Was your old P3 a 56 as well? I ride the same 2008 P3 in a size 54 that is borderline too small for me and have wondered how well the NP3 would compare.

Nice touch with the TRS sticker on the rear wheel. :)

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 3:48

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Brad - Doubling the question above... I'm on a 54 2010 P3 and am moving to a NP3. Were you on the same 56 size on your older P3? I know the geometry is different, and wondering about sizing issues.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [colinlaughery] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 4:53

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Just measure your armpad stack and reach on current bike and translate that to...any...other bike..

I was on a classic p3 56 with no spacers and a -7 80mm stem. I am on a P5-6 54 with 10mm of spacers and the most reach. It was easy to translate the fit once you established the pad stack and reach.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [Zenmaster28] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 5:06

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I was on a 56 2008 P3. As James said, just measure the stack and reach on your current frame and go from there. I was in between the 56 and 54, but ended up going with the 56. I had quite a few spacers under the bar on the old P3. See picture below for reference of old position.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 5:13

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I love the way you put "budget" in quotes as I would never call a bike with Di2 and race wheels a "budget bike"!

Sweet looking rig though.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [bwain] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 5:25

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Was waiting for someone to call me out on that. I already had the quarq and race wheels and saddle. I say budget because for the bike to $$ spent I think it is really good.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 6:24

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Where did you hide the junction box?

Also, is the battery still external or did you mount it internally somehow?

Thanks

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [power1369] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 6:28

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All information is in original post. Thanks

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 6:40

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Well not really but thanks anyways.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 6:41

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Love the sticker on the bottom of the disc wheel.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [power1369] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 6:46

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Look under bento box- "Shimano 5 port junction box" Gruppo- Seat post battery.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 6:51

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No latex tubes on your race wheels?

You must be running Butyl and sealant for a good reason, and it you used your spare I might not fully understand that reason.

Suffer Well.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [jmh] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 6:58

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Sealant works but metal punctured and stayed all the way through tire and I couldn't pull it out. So it just kept puncturing. If it punctures and comes out or is stuck in tire and you can pull out it out works great. And just think I run butyl and go fast ;). I may switch to latex next time I flat on race wheels, but knock on wood that hasn't happened.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 7:05

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afbadbrad wrote:

Sealant works but metal punctured and stayed all the way through tire and I couldn't pull it out. So it just kept puncturing. If it punctures and comes out or is stuck in tire and you can pull out it out works great. And just think I run butyl and go fast ;). I may switch to latex next time I flat on race wheels, but knock on wood that hasn't happened.

No one called you slow, we're just wondering why you're down with losing 1s/km on account of $30and 15 min of install time for tubes. ;)

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [AaronT] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 7:14

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Haha yeah.....Is there published data anywhere on all the latex tubes vs. Butyl??

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 7:27

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Yeah, It's been confirmed by all of the guys doing CRR testing at home (Tom A.) and Josh Poertner mentioned it in a recent interview.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 7:28

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afbadbrad wrote:

And just think I run butyl and go fast ;).

With that logic you might be ready for your pro card after all.

Suffer Well.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [jmh] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 7:31

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Can always go faster. Next big investment will be time in the tunnel. Until then I will look at the little things and I think latex is the last thing.

-Brad Williams
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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 7:35

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Cant believe JackMott helps you with the build and allows you to run butyl. Considering all the published data. Theres literally no reason not to.

"One Line Robert"

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [wsrobert] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 7:55

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Yeah him and Eric will probably lecture me again about it. It is on my todo list.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 8:01

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From here.

Quote:

The main advantageous feature of this material is it's elasticity, or it's ability to be stretched, or deflected by large amounts and then return to it's unloaded state with very little hysteresis, or energy losses, due to the deflection. Because of this property, the use of latex tubes in a bicycle tire tends to give the combination of tire and tube a lower overall rolling resistance as compared to the same tire with a butyl tube. Depending on the tire, the rolling resistance can be lowered by as much as 10-15%. This can result in a power savings of ~5W for a typical rider, which is not an insignificant amount. For example, over an Ironman distance bike leg (180 km) this would result in a time savings of ~1-1/2 minutes.

Suffer Well.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 8:17

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Great looking ride. Curious your bike split at the 70.3?

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [winchester] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 8:29

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This year:
Tyler was 2:28 I think
Galveston 2:07
Wildflower 2:31 (power was really low and an off day)

Of note last year I rode 4:41 in Kona and 4:38 at IMFL and 2:26 at Vegas and 2:11 at Vineman if those help as "older" data points.

-Brad Williams
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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [jmh] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 8:30

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Thanks!

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 8:32

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Wow, fast times. Very nice.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 9:17

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I am all set up on mine as of yesterday...will post the build details, but the main reason I went for the P3 are the following:

Superbike like aerodynamics without super bike mechanical hassles
Very adjustable seat mast. My nose of saddle is 4.5 cm behind the BB. The reason I ride in what is effectively a roadie position, is to take weight off my shoulders and neck damaged in a crash 3 years ago
High stack short reach (which makes the above position in line 2 possible). I have zero spacers, with only a 5 cm drop from seat top (68 cm on top of BB) to aeropads
Conventional brakes that I can service myself
Conventional stem, so I can use whatever bar system I want
Easy cable routing
I like the geometry of the 51. Low BB (75mm drop) but a decent head tube angle that is not too slack making it corner well on technical descents
Easy bike to travel with

Dev

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 9:21

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Can you post a closeup picture of how you ran the rear brake cable into the frame?

I have the same bento box. Did you make a hole in the front for the Di2 cables or run them in the front at the zipper?

/Howie Nordström

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 9:28

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Great bike ;)

Why do you have a bottle on the down tube? Zero aero penalty to have extra bottle(s) behind the saddle?

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [lllusion] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 9:34

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lllusion wrote:

Can you post a closeup picture of how you ran the rear brake cable into the frame?

I have the same bento box. Did you make a hole in the front for the Di2 cables or run them in the front at the zipper?

There is a closeup in the dropbox I believe. But where exactly do you want the picture from. Here is my illustration of how it runs:

Yes, used a hole punch in the bottom of the bento box and ran through there. The dropbox folder shoes an image of this a little better.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [colnagoguy] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 9:39

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colnagoguy wrote:

Great bike ;)

Why do you have a bottle on the down tube? Zero aero penalty to have extra bottle(s) behind the saddle?

I wasn't aware of the hydration paper that Damon/Cervelo put out on the hydration setups (http://www.cervelo.com/...nd-aerodynamics.html), until I listened to him talk the other night here in Ft. Woth. By the way, the "Shape of Speed" talk that they did was really impressive.

Will probably adjust hydration setup and run bottle behind and nothing on Downtube for HIM and under, and only a bottle on the back for HIM, nothing shorter. For IM I will run a bottle there and move my "flat/tool kit" to a bottle and put it in the rear. I will need all the room in the bento box for food.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 9:44

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Or you can order the new P3 box from Alden... looks impressive... I've ordered one :)

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [colnagoguy] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 9:47

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Already working on that as well, suppose to be testing one for the P3.....Excited to get it and test it out. Hopefully someone puts it in a tunnel as well as I would like to see actual data on it as well.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 10:12

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Your illustration and the picture below are what I needed. Thanks!

How did your mechanic manage to route the cable as per your illustration? Is it going around anything? Was there drilling involved? Is it bare cable or in a housing?

/Howie Nordström

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 10:48

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Hey Dev, didn't realize you had picked up a NP3. I got my 54 cm NP3 Ultegra a short while ago and replaced a good chunk of the stock parts with a Quarq PM, Zipp,Vuka Stealth bars, Fizik saddle and Magura brakes.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [lllusion] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 10:57

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Over the top of steer tube cap. No drilling. Housing all the way through. Routed from rear to front.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 12:07

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I looked through your pictures but did not see any of how you integrated the battery into the seattube. Any chance you have pictures of this?

Thanks

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [Scott_B] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 12:09

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Scott_B wrote:

Hey Dev, didn't realize you had picked up a NP3. I got my 54 cm NP3 Ultegra a short while ago and replaced a good chunk of the stock parts with a Quarq PM, Zipp,Vuka Stealth bars, Fizik saddle and Magura brakes.

I literally got it all set up yesterday and was riding and tweaking things on 2nd line road around 500m from your place...almost pulled over to your place to see its "twin"!!! I replaced the FSA brakes with Ultegra and used my existing cockpit (Bonetrager Carbon clips on with Profile base bar), used my existing saddle (Bonetrager Hilo RLX) and cranks-pedals (Quarq Elsa with Ultegra pedals). So basically my contact points are now identical to what I was riding on Friday with the Slice. I opted for the 51 frame with stem totally buried (no spacers) versus the 48 with 2 cm of spacers, because I felt the 51 will handle better. The 48 has a Harley like slack from end. Reach for the two is 1 cm different so rather than a 100mm stem on the 48, I have a 90mm on the 51.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 12:15

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I definitely can't see you on a 48 cm - you would need a really long stem. I took the bike out for a long ride yesterday and am very happy with my purchase. The Zipp Vuka Stealth is really comfy, although I am still working on dialing my position in with it. The Magura brakes are really powerful. I am also liking the stock 3T Accelero 40 wheels that came with the bike. I had purchased a set of Flo 30s to use as training wheels, but I have decided to keep the 3Ts and will be selling the Flos without even using them once.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 13:07

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Stupid question but NP3=new model P3?
Thanks

Randy
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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [slornow] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 13:23

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Yes, NP3 = New P3.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [power1369] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 13:27

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Here you go (just took them and dropped the seat clam in the seat tube. I was pretty pissed off at you for a few minutes ;) ). There is some foam stuffed in there as well to keep it tight fitting. It has yet to fall out from hitting a big bump or from crappy Texas chip seal.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 14:11

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Thank you for taking the picture. Sorry it caused you some grief !!

However, your picture has just cost me $200+ because now I have to try it !!

Again, I appreciate you taking the time to post the picture and answer my questions.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 14:16

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I do love Slowtwitch budget build threads. A bike for everyman is sure to follow.

Sweet ride. Love the NP3.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [power1369] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 14:19

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No worries, I had told someone about this build and they asked me to post it up. It is here to help people build a "budget" Super Bike. I think with the TriRig bar you can get really close to what I did, but I just think the integration of the Arduo is just a tad bit tighter. Don't get me wrong TriRig makes great products, and I think for the price of his bar to the Arduo you are better off going with it.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 14:35

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Sweet bike. I've been eyeing the NP3 all year. My 2009 Felt B14 needs to be retired! Which shop did the build?

Is it my eyes or are you a bit taller on the NP3. You look lower on the old P3. Not sure if the change was for power/comfort reasons or maybe it's just my eyes.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 15:00

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Be careful with the Aduro as some of them have been recalled. Go here:
http://www.cpsc.gov/...uro-Aero-Handlebars/ to find out if yours has been.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 15:17

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Hey I'm out in Weatherford. What bike shop do you use primarily?

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [3Aims] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 16:02

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Thanks! Ft Worth Cycling off of Cherry Lane in Ft Worth. Ask for Jason if you go in for maintenance and James if you go in to buy something. Both are great guys, and FYI they like Miller Lite and Mt Dew ;)

-Brad Williams
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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [billhardin] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 16:03

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Checked before installing, but thanks for looking out!

-Brad Williams
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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [cbump] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 16:03

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See above post, just commented on another one about it.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 16:10

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Awesome thanks! I just bought a couple 29ers in there the other day. Glad to hear because I didn't know how much they knew about tri so ive been going all the way to plano or Richardson.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [power1369] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 16:17

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x2.. I had read something somewhere that the internal battery doesn't fit in the Cervelo seat post. The upgrade possibilities are never-ending

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [cyfac06] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 16:31

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Yeah someone from cervelo was shocked when I said I had mine in there. Rumor has it you can get it up above the bottom bracket as well, the bigger one.......Can't confirm that as I haven't seen it. I will say there isn't a mount or anything other than force and foam securing it.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 16:47

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afbadbrad wrote:

Over the top of steer tube cap. No drilling. Housing all the way through. Routed from rear to front.

Routed from rear to front? Are you saying that you fed the housing into the frame from the rear frame hole? If so, how did you feed the housing UP the small port hole in the nose?

**Edit**
I just realized that in the Let's see your ride! thread that you wrote the routing was done with the fork out.
Fortunately, old skills to get into the locked family station wagon with a wire coat hanger came in handy! I managed to feed a coat hanger from the front frame hole, up the port hole, then tape some string to it and pull the end back again. :)

However, did you widen the hole in the rear plastic insert in order for the housing to be one continuous length from front to back? Normally the insert acts as a housing stop.

/Howie Nordström

Last edited by: lllusion: May 12, 14 17:12

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 16:50

Post #58 of 97 Views: 15677

afbadbrad wrote:

... There is some foam stuffed in there as well to keep it tight fitting. It has yet to fall out from hitting a big bump or from crappy Texas chip seal.

I taped a piece of inner-tube to my battery and it sits in the seat post quite firmly.

/Howie Nordström

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [lllusion] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 17:23

Post #59 of 97 Views: 15652

Used the hydraulic hole cover that they have. Then it routes right through. Glad you got it through there! And I guess you could dremmel/drill it out.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [lllusion] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 17:45

Post #60 of 97 Views: 15636

lllusion wrote:

I have the same bento box. Did you make a hole in the front for the Di2 cables or run them in the front at the zipper?

Suggestion: if you need to make a hole in a Speedpack's rubberized bottom, you can make it with a sharp awl (or in a pinch, a large sewing needle; then you can slowly enlarge it with a very small phillips screwdriver). The hole does not need to be big, ideally it should be somewhat smaller than what you're going to put through it, then the fit around your wire or screw will be nice and snug. If you need to make a hole in a Speedpack's nylon panel, we suggest marking the hole location first and then using a very hot unfolded paperclip end (end heated by a match). Again, take care to not make the hole too big.

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 18:23

Post #61 of 97 Views: 15610

Like Power1369 said, thanks for the pic of the battery and description of how you did it. I've been searching for dimensions and meaning to pull the seat post out of my wife's NP2 to see if the internal battery would fit. Thanks. Now I can get the ugly battery off her downtube!

Tim Anderson
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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 12, 14 21:52

Post #62 of 97 Views: 15532

afbadbrad wrote:

Used the hydraulic hole cover that they have. Then it routes right through. Glad you got it through there! And I guess you could dremmel/drill it out.

Last question--hopefully, what cover did you use for the front frame hole? It looks to be perfectly symmetrical and not a standard (brake housing) cover.

/Howie Nordström

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 13, 14 3:00

Post #63 of 97 Views: 15478

Do you mind disclosing the total $ estimate for this budget build?

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [lllusion] [ In reply to ]

May 13, 14 7:17

Post #64 of 97 Views: 15390

lllusion wrote:

afbadbrad wrote:

Used the hydraulic hole cover that they have. Then it routes right through. Glad you got it through there! And I guess you could dremmel/drill it out.

Last question--hopefully, what cover did you use for the front frame hole? It looks to be perfectly symmetrical and not a standard (brake housing) cover.

The bike shop had it, not sure what it came off of. And no cover was used where the cables enter on the top tube, but you can see that in the picture.

-Brad Williams
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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [winchester] [ In reply to ]

May 13, 14 7:28

Post #65 of 97 Views: 15372

Winchester-

I am going to give you what I remember, but some things I will give you ball park figures on.

Frame- MSRP is $3000, I paid a bit less
Gruppo- (FD,RD,all electronics and wiring,)- $1,100
Bars- Confidential, rumor is you can get them MSRP for $1400??

I had everything else already.

I use the term "budget" build because for the amount of money that was spent on this, I think I got a really good bike. Now if I was really strapped for cash and couldn't afford the P3 I would have done the same thing with the P2..........

-Brad Williams
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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 13, 14 7:34

Post #66 of 97 Views: 15357

Its not like the internal battery has to be used in the seat post (surprised this is a revelation for some on the thread - googles your friend). I've got it mounted in the seat tube of my S5. But it can also be stuffed into the down tube via the BB. Just be sure to zip tie/bubble wrap/foam all around it so its secure/not bouncing around.

"One Line Robert"

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 13, 14 7:36

Post #67 of 97 Views: 15355

I completed a similar project about ten days ago. One key difference is my frame is a 1999 or 2000 (not quite sure which) P3. All the rest was stuff I already had. Well, had to buy the Di2 bar end shifters since I took the Di2 9070 off of a road bike. Also bought the internal seat tube battery. It was remarkable how easy and clean it was to internalize almost all of the Di2 wires on this old frame.

Very fast and fun little 650c bike.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [bobby11] [ In reply to ]

May 13, 14 7:42

Post #68 of 97 Views: 15346

Very nice build -- some fresh air to an older bike. Did you have to modify the frame at all? Any tips that you might find helpful for someone trying this out?

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 13, 14 7:50

Post #69 of 97 Views: 15332

P2 is what I have. Plan on training on it stock for a while then posting about a month or two out from my 70.3 asking for tips on making it more aero. I have cables all over the place.
Think the FW cycling guy can help?

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [cbump] [ In reply to ]

May 13, 14 7:55

Post #70 of 97 Views: 15323

Well I go in there a lot and was really specific with what I wanted. I am sure if you know what you want and are willing to pay they will do it. I was really particular and told them exactly how I wanted it. If you just walk in there and say I want this more aero, I don't know if that would go over well. But they are really familiar with Cervelo, and Jason knows the new frames really well now.

-Brad Williams
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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 13, 14 7:56

Post #71 of 97 Views: 15317

afbadbrad wrote:

lllusion wrote:

And no cover was used where the cables enter on the top tube, but you can see that in the picture.

What was the reason for not using that cover? Was it to allow easier movement of the brake cable?

/Howie Nordström

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [lllusion] [ In reply to ]

May 13, 14 8:01

Post #72 of 97 Views: 15304

With the Arduo bar I don't think you can use one. I looked at the P5 and there is no cover there. So if you don't have the Arduo maybe you can still use it? The Arduo goes over that area and the cables route right in.

-Brad Williams
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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 13, 14 8:07

Post #73 of 97 Views: 15294

Hi Brad,

Exactly right. With the Aduro bar, DO NOT use the top tube cable keeper: it limits steering and will damage cables and/or hydraulic lines, either of which could cause a crash. The reason is the Aduro's tail binds when steering left or right.

With a normal stem (without the Aduro bar's tail), you can use the cable keeper if you like. It's only cosmetic, so strictly optional.

Cheers,

Damon Rinard
Engineering Manager,
CSG Road Engineering Department
Cannondale & GT Bicycles
(ex-Cervelo, ex-Trek, ex-Velomax, ex-Kestrel)

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 13, 14 8:45

Post #74 of 97 Views: 15260

Sweet ride! I'm glad you used quotations to describe budget.

Formerly DrD

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 13, 14 8:58

Post #75 of 97 Views: 15244

afbadbrad wrote:

With the Arduo bar I don't think you can use one. I looked at the P5 and there is no cover there. So if you don't have the Arduo maybe you can still use it? The Arduo goes over that area and the cables route right in.

damon_rinard wrote:

Exactly right. With the Aduro bar, DO NOT use the top tube cable keeper: it limits steering and will damage cables and/or hydraulic lines, either of which could cause a crash. The reason is the Aduro's tail binds when steering left or right.

With a normal stem (without the Aduro bar's tail), you can use the cable keeper if you like. It's only cosmetic, so strictly optional.

Thanks Brad & Damon. That's what I thought but wanted to make sure.
I have the TriRig Sigma stem and Alpha bars so the cover should be ok.

/Howie Nordström

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [bobby11] [ In reply to ]

May 13, 14 12:50

Post #76 of 97 Views: 13682

Man, that is a large chainring :)

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [bobby11] [ In reply to ]

May 13, 14 13:00

Post #77 of 97 Views: 13665

bobby11 wrote:

Nice black sled !

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 13, 14 18:37

Post #78 of 97 Views: 13582

Thank you for sharing, incredible bike

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 14, 14 19:33

Post #79 of 97 Views: 13451

1. Is there a risk for water pooling in the case with upturned Di2 shifters?

2. The brake mod over the cap and looped in the nose works great! I went for a ride with it today. Thanks!

/Howie Nordström

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [lllusion] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 8:54

Post #80 of 97 Views: 13291

lllusion wrote:

1. Is there a risk for water pooling in the case with upturned Di2 shifters?

2. The brake mod over the cap and looped in the nose works great! I went for a ride with it today. Thanks!

No worries, happy to help! As for the upturned Di2 shifters, not sure, hopefully it is sealed? Might open them up after a wet ride and check it out. I am sure once I arrive to England I will have plenty of opportunities to find out.............

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 9:21

Post #81 of 97 Views: 13270

I will be building the same bike in the next weeks...

I have couple of questions... regarding the seatpost battery, wiring length for Cervelo NP3 - 48cm...

Aero-Shifters: Dura-Ace 9071 STI
Brake-Shifters: ST-9071 TT
Rear Derailleur: Dura-Ace RD9070
Front Derailleur Size: Braze-ON RD9070
Battery: Internal Battery SM-BTR2
Charger: Internal Battery Charger SM-BCR2 Di2 Internal Cherger E-Tube
Charger Cable: Not need internal
Junction A: 5 Port SM-WE90B
Junction B: Internal Wiring
Battery Mount: Not need internal
Wire X 4 Shifter to Junc A: Short 300mm or Medium 350mm or Long 400mm
Wire X 1 Junc A to Junc B: Medium 750mm or Long 950mm or Long 1000mm or Extra Long 1200mm
Wire X 1 Junc B to Front Der: Short 500mm or Medium 550mm or Long 600mm
Wire X 1 Junc B to Rear Der: Short 500mm or Medium 750mm or Long 950mm
Wire X 1 Junc B to Battery: Short 500mm or Medium 550mm or Long 600mm

LBS said they would not install seatpost battery... how hard is it to wire on a NP3? Can't a do it myself and do I require specific tools?

Thanks in advance,
Alex

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [MTL] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 9:39

Post #82 of 97 Views: 13248

Alex,

Sorry not sure what length was used. It just needs to run from the junction box that should be in the BB area up the seat tube. Shouldn't be that hard to run. Ask them if they will just run the wire up the seat tube and you will install it. Wonder why they won't install it in there, they don't want to be responsible for it?

-Brad Williams
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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 11:05

Post #83 of 97 Views: 13205

Hi Brad,

Thanks for posting this thread including the multiple photos and all the answers you're giving.

It's true the battery fits inside the seat post (as you've demonstrated), it's just that there's no "official" (manufactured) way to keep it there. This may be one reason a shop might hesitate to set it up this way. But your (and others') methods seem to be working.

Cheers,

Damon Rinard
Engineering Manager,
CSG Road Engineering Department
Cannondale & GT Bicycles
(ex-Cervelo, ex-Trek, ex-Velomax, ex-Kestrel)

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [lllusion] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 11:16

Post #84 of 97 Views: 13184

lllusion wrote:

1. Is there a risk for water pooling in the case with upturned Di2 shifters?

2. The brake mod over the cap and looped in the nose works great! I went for a ride with it today. Thanks!

Illusion- I think you posted the question on the TriRig page, but here was there response in case it wasn't you that asked the questions "there's really no risk of water pooling as you suggest. The shifter pods are sealed nice and tight, as are the buttons."- TriRig

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [damon_rinard] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 11:18

Post #85 of 97 Views: 13181

damon_rinard wrote:

Hi Brad,

Thanks for posting this thread including the multiple photos and all the answers you're giving.

It's true the battery fits inside the seat post (as you've demonstrated), it's just that there's no "official" (manufactured) way to keep it there. This may be one reason a shop might hesitate to set it up this way. But your (and others') methods seem to be working.

Cheers,

Damon- Thanks for chiming in and answering all of the questions. Makes sense why they would not want to take the responsibility since it is not an actual place that you guys recommend installing it.

-Brad Williams
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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 11:23

Post #86 of 97 Views: 13172

Hi Brad,

We don't recommend against it, either. We just haven't taken that close a look at it yet. ;-)

Cheers,

Damon Rinard
Engineering Manager,
CSG Road Engineering Department
Cannondale & GT Bicycles
(ex-Cervelo, ex-Trek, ex-Velomax, ex-Kestrel)

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [damon_rinard] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 11:26

Post #87 of 97 Views: 13168

damon_rinard wrote:

Hi Brad,

We don't recommend against it, either. We just haven't taken that close a look at it yet. ;-)

Cheers,

I will continue to test it for you and let you know if I end up with any problems. Thanks again for your feedback!

-Brad Williams
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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 12:08

Post #88 of 97 Views: 13143

afbadbrad wrote:

lllusion wrote:

1. Is there a risk for water pooling in the case with upturned Di2 shifters?

2. The brake mod over the cap and looped in the nose works great! I went for a ride with it today. Thanks!

Illusion- I think you posted the question on the TriRig page, but here was there response in case it wasn't you that asked the questions "there's really no risk of water pooling as you suggest. The shifter pods are sealed nice and tight, as are the buttons."- TriRig

Thanks Brad. I didn't see Nick's response.

/Howie Nordström

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [MTL] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 12:11

Post #89 of 97 Views: 13137

MTL wrote:

LBS said they would not install seatpost battery... how hard is it to wire on a NP3? Can't a do it myself and do I require specific tools?

damon_rinard wrote:

It's true the battery fits inside the seat post (as you've demonstrated), it's just that there's no "official" (manufactured) way to keep it there. This may be one reason a shop might hesitate to set it up this way. But your (and others') methods seem to be working.

My LBS called Cerv�lo, and they suggested a shim to hold the internal battery in the seat post. I found that a small inner tube fits nicely around the battery, and with a wrap of electrical tape around the battery at the top and bottom of the inner tube allows the battery to sit quite firmly.

/Howie Nordström

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [MTL] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 12:25

Post #90 of 97 Views: 13122

MTL wrote:

Wire X 4 Shifter to Junc A: Short 300mm or Medium 350mm or Long 400mm

The shifters already have wires that are long enough to run through the basebar/extensions to the 5-port junction, even if the junction is placed behind the stem in a bento box.

You'll want to get an SM-PCE1 to update the firmware of the Di2 components, (re-)program and functions, and for making very small F&RD adjustments.

/Howie Nordström

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [lllusion] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 13:38

Post #91 of 97 Views: 13061

lllusion wrote:

I found that a small inner tube fits nicely around the battery, and with a wrap of electrical tape ...

Bartape does the trick as well.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [lllusion] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 15:09

Post #92 of 97 Views: 13016

lllusion wrote:

MTL wrote:

Wire X 4 Shifter to Junc A: Short 300mm or Medium 350mm or Long 400mm

The shifters already have wires that are long enough to run through the basebar/extensions to the 5-port junction, even if the junction is placed behind the stem in a bento box.

You'll want to get an SM-PCE1 to update the firmware of the Di2 components, (re-)program and functions, and for making very small F&RD adjustments.

MTL wrote:

Aero-Shifters: Dura-Ace 9071 STI
Brake-Shifters: ST-9071 TT

I understood that the aero-shifters already come with cables but I wasn't sure that the ST-9071 also included cables because the retailers I looked at mentioned that they don't?

MTL, I've also got a 48cm frame and doing a similar setup to you (ultegra mainly, ST-9071 and 10-speed RD). I'm placing the junction box (JC-41) behind the BB as the frame already had the Rotor 4624 BB adapter installed and I didn't want to have it replaced as it is suppose to be used once only.

I measured the frame and decided for the wire lengths:
RD to Junc B: 550mm
FD to Junc B: 200mm
Battery in seat-post or seat-tube (as others have done as well): 350mm
Junc A to Junc B: 1000mm

At the end of the day you can go longer as the cables will be hidden in the frame anyway.

I have already ordered most of the parts (except base-bar, bar-end shifters, SM-EW90-B).

As for SM-PCE1, I understand that the internal battery charger (SM-BCR2) can also update firmware and re-program, etc but compared to the PCE1 you can't run diagnostics. I already have a PCE1 for my external di2 setup on another bike but haven't had the need to use that function so you can probably save some money now and decide later.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [Scott_B] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 15:45

Post #93 of 97 Views: 12990

Scott_B wrote:

Hey Dev, didn't realize you had picked up a NP3. I got my 54 cm NP3 Ultegra a short while ago and replaced a good chunk of the stock parts with a Quarq PM, Zipp,Vuka Stealth bars, Fizik saddle and Magura brakes.

I have the same bars and brakes on my NP2--I'm curious, did you route the rear brake hose through the top tube entry (with the shifter cables) or the side of the top tube?

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [Vman455] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 16:55

Post #94 of 97 Views: 12955

My bike was assembled with the rear brake line on the side of the down tube. The bike is currently in the shop to have some recabling. The shop is going to try to re-route the rear brake cable through the top tube, and the front brake cable through the Vuka Stealth bars exiting at the brake cable hole in the bottom centre of the bar. I will be picking up the bike tomorrow and will let you know how the shop made out.

Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 17:41

Post #95 of 97 Views: 12934

Sure is a lot of aero bar sticking out the top of your hands. Might want to cut that down a bit?

TriDork

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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [tridork] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 17:54

Post #96 of 97 Views: 12922

tridork wrote:

Sure is a lot of aero bar sticking out the top of your hands. Might want to cut that down a bit?

I actually ride with my hands quite a bit higher. That picture was pre race at Galveston and day #3 on the bike. It does look like that in the picture that I posted though.

-Brad Williams
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Re: Cervelo NP3 "Super Bike" on a "budget" [afbadbrad] [ In reply to ]

May 15, 14 17:58

Post #97 of 97 Views: 12917

afbadbrad wrote:

tridork wrote:

Sure is a lot of aero bar sticking out the top of your hands. Might want to cut that down a bit?

I actually ride with my hands quite a bit higher. That picture was pre race at Galveston and day #3 on the bike. It does look like that in the picture that I posted though.

Your forearms are almost perfectly horizontal (good).

I rode with similar bars for a while. I cut them down so the shifters fitted in my hand, acting like part of the bar. My arms stayed horizontal and only the barest bit of the shifter lever stuck out of my hand. I ride with shallower bars these days but sill have them cut down a lot.

I have also developed quite a teardrop shape to my body. Plus my fat cheeks blend into my helmet for a very aero effect. No-one beats me downhill! :-(

TriDork

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