Felt_Rider wrote:
IMPBAZ wrote:
"The docs clearly make money by getting folks to use, so they push it" Dave,
I just don't see that you really have support for the above quote.
There are some doctors that are out there for the money, but most want to improve the health and well being of their patients.
Paul
I've had a crossing with one of those types or at least it sure seemed that way. I went to a urologist in my area a number of years ago out of concern of my prostrate after using heavily over 10 years of competitive bodybuilding. The doctor did a blood test and called me back in to discuss my low "T" levels. I was pretty sure my natural levels were impacted and I was approaching my late 40's at that time. I let him talk me into using Androgel, but I felt conflicted by using it. I don't compete in anything so that wasn't the problem, but I had a lot of other issues out of my former use. It was like treating an alcoholic with alcohol. Plus the Androgel seemed very ineffective for the cost out of my pocket since my insurance wasn't covering it. Then I let him talk me into using injectable oil base T and finally the conflicted feeling I was having I did not finish the remainder. At the next annual check he asked me about it and I told him my concerns about my prostrate and other things. At that point he starts going into marketing hype but because I was a former black market dealer, user and long history with this topic most of what he said wasn't true. I did not confront him on the deceptions and just went on my way. A few weeks later I started getting pharmaceutical pamphlets in the mail from his office about other forms of delivery, such as, pelletized slow release T implanted under the skin.
This falls under your "some doctors" category. I am sure many would not do this or at least I hope they would not.
One of the reasons, as there are a number of other reasons, I stopped the T therapy is that I get to speak one on one with athletes on occasion in my area on occasion about using for performance. It is super hypocritical for me to be using a "therapy" dose and talk to them about the cons of using. When I started using and selling through the 80's and 90's it was not that many guys and gals actually using in comparison to today's times IMO. I have more typical husband/father types that approach me with questions than ever before. Unfortunately I find that about 95% of the guys that approach me at first ask me how they can ask their doctor to increase dosage or where they can find a black market source in order to increase dosage. I would also guess that better than 50% of the guys aged 40 and up that I see in my gym are on a doctor's prescription and when they approach me and I begin to ask them questions I find that most have the same urologist that I was using. I would still visit this doctor because he is known as one of the best in my area for prostrate and colon cancer screens.
On a different note, I would give this advice to anyone competing clean. This is coming from a former heavy user.
Never look outward to competition (as in who is going to show up and are they clean), but instead look inward to do your best and look upward to where you would like to go. Where you place following a good effort in training clean is to be appreciated and believe me you will sleep a whole lot better with a clean conscience. I've met many guys and gals that started innocent, but in time they let their paranoia of who might be using ease them into a false justification of why they need to be using as well.
Most I have met that started or considered PEDs started because of paranoia. "I would train clean if they would train clean, but I can't even place because I believe they are on something and without using so I started using."
This.
I'd love to see more schools, coaches, colleges, businesses, TV commercials, lauding this. For the most part however, results are absurdly over-emphasized in so many aspects of society. Considering the way in which schools are teaching kids to care only about what their test scores will be, I predict a possibility that cheating will actually increase with time.
Perhaps it takes the full experience of what it's like to come back from the dark side to appreciate the light.