marcag wrote:
h2ofun wrote:
marcag wrote:
Dave, 2 quick questions :
did you actually not know Frank was banned from posting on ST ?
if you had to guess at this point, what length crank do you think you'll end up on for 2018 ?
Lots of lots have been banned, and have rejoined ST.
As I posted, Franks ST profile does not say he is still banned, but I have no idea what Dan's process is. Can you prove he is still banned?
If I had to guess at this second, 150mm since why not try something probably the fitters will say is wrong.
But as I am now doing TT testing on 150 and 175's, and the 150's, even in PC mode have given me more power, ...
But, I will change around based on data, and test results, and having fun trying new stuff.
But, I need a lot more data. Will lower the bars 10mm this morning and test again.
On the first topic, if he is not banned why do you need to post for him ? Why does he say "I wish I could participate myself" or something of the likes.
On the second topic, with 150mm, how much have you raised you seat and bars from the point you got fit a while back ?
I said from the data I can see on Franks profile, it does not say he is banned. So that is why I am asking, how does anyone know for a FACT that anyone is banned?
Second, on my velotron, going to the 150mm limited how high I could get the seat raised. But, when I went to a M3 seat, it was much taller so now have things correct.
When I ride the 175's, I am at 840mm. When I ride the 150's now, I have it correct at 865mm. I can sure tell now when the seat is too low? Hope this does not mean it is too high. :(
As far as the bars, I am playing with them. Never had them 100% since for me, it is a back issue. So have been having them higher than most folks have, but I just need to be comfortable. I have been riding at 20mm down. Then this morning at 30mm down. Might try them at 40mm down tomorrow. Trying to see if I can still be comfortable, and produce power for me at 80mm down. But will take it one step at a time and collect the data.
I still am, for me, amazed that at 150mm cranks, I continue to produce more power on my 5 mile TT loop than on 175's. Mentally I want the 175's to be better, but so far, have not found any test data for me that shows they are better. About the only thing I see is on my ramp to 300 watts. One the 175's I have the leverage to get there. But on the 150''s I tend to die around 270 watts and have to stand up the rest of the way to 300 watts.
The other question I keep asking myself, if 150's, meaning real short, seem to be with the data a good fit for me, I just ask why do most others not ride equal if not shorter than this? My only answer is most folks do not spend the time, or money, to see if short cranks would help them with a better fit produce more power. Just look at this thread, have many tried much shorter, and then collected repeatable data on them? Not that I have seen.
Oh well, I only started this thread to show others what I was doing. Never tried to say it was "right". But as usual, it seems to turn into a mob attack that of course nothing I, or Frank Day does, can maybe have some food for thought for others. :)
I do find it interesting that Dan has elected to not even make a comment. I guess some of us, even when we get older, are willing to consider outside the box, meaning, what if we were in the wrong box to start with. AGAIN, I am not sure what the box is, for me, yet. Will take a few races to see if all this testing has been worth it. BUT, sure has made riding on the trainer a LOT more fun this off season!!!!
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