How/where I can buy your device? Trip to Montreal would triple the cost for me and simply impossible due to time constrains. I would rather not wait for aero pod if your device is ready, can you send the link to order page? I'm aero\techie enough to be able to use it.

Maybe if enough of us ask they will change how they are selling them

Hi,

There are 2 reasons why we are starting to sell our 500 first units in a Launch Tour:

1) Being able to give a training session. This will allow all our customers to test themself and to get good data.
2) Hardware and firmware final check. 500 units in North America will allow us to give better support and to react quickly. 5000 units worldwide would be another ball game...

After the Notio Tour, we should start selling worldwide. That being said, we are listening to your comments and we will consider every option to help us improve.

Pierre-André Boulay
Notio Konect Product Specialist

If you believe that face-to-face training is required for the first 500 users to get good data from their testing, how do you plan to distribute that knowledge after the intial launch tour? Will online training be required or offered as part of the purchase price?

Hi

Face to face training is not a necessity, but it might be a nice to have in the beginning and to have 500 units gives us the chance to do it. We are working on other training methods: complete user guide, tutorial videos, users forum. We also know that this kind of aero testing on the road is new, so we want to have an adaptation time (think of the 1st power meters on the market).

We know that after the Launch Tour, people will need to be autonomous in the use of the device and software. The training methods above are part of the customer support, therefore they will come with the product without extra cost.

Regards,

Pierre-André Boulay
Notio Konect Product Specialist

Just signed up for the waiting list for Toronto. :) I hope I get in

Are there any updates on this? Other than than the Huub - Wattbike guys having lots of photos with it, I haven't heard or seen much since Kona.

I have one, but since it's winter here now it's been a while since I've used it. I would guess it's the same with a lot of other users.

Any chance that you'd be up to loaning, renting or selling it? I'm looking to do some laps around the LA velodrome.

I got it for free to give feedback so I don't think it's for me to give away - and I'm in Denmark. You shouldn't need it for track testing anyway.

Haha, well thanks anyway. I'm 5.5-6 hours away from the track so I'll only be there on special occasions.

Does anyone know what is going on with this? It's time for someone to either admit this was all a sham, or tell us when we can buy real units.

I talked with them back in December. They were saying they had a bunch of beta units out there, learned a lot (esp. on the post ride analysis side) and were tweaking a bunch of things based on user feedback/experiences/issues. Sounded like they were waiting for spring for a 2nd push.

I notice that Hubb Wattshop are using the notio sensor alongside their own track based system and the Boardman tunnel.

It would be interesting to see how the results from the different methods all compare.

The notio is alreay available for quite some time. I have mine for at least 5 or 6 weeks.

Jeroen

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I do not think that's the case, at least for the general public. No online retailers selling them, nor is the Notio website.

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There has been a limited supply of them. A good chunk went to testing with pro athletes and testers.
The Europeans distributors got more of them because of the distribution model of the parent company (Argon).

Trade you a broken one sitting in a box addressed to you for a working one ;)

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Well, i can order them from the distributor here easy. Order today, i have it the day after. Last week they still had some on stock but they are indeed also distr. Argon18.

Jeroen

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Owner at TRIPRO, The Netherlands

How about if it's a sham *and* for sale? After all you can buy an Aeropod, no problem... ;)

Zing!

Disclosure, I did (past tense) work for Notio. I got to test it as well as competitive products.

All of them had their strengths, weakness and level of maturity. None that I tested were "shams". They did have different levels of accuracy and ease of use.

If people think the technology is in a state of maturity where you just slap it on and get accurate and precise numbers in all conditions without some type of learning curve and calibration, they will be disappointed. This is not specific to one device.

What will differentiate these companies is their ability, over time, to make things easier, make them accurate in the broadest set of conditions and help the user make the right decisions.

It does look like Notio is treating it as an aid to field testing, which is good. Real time data isn't going to be very precise, unless there is a very precise way to determine elevation. The mounting location of the Notio seems like it would compromise results, since any changes you make to the front end would require recalibration. That's a non-starter IMO. There was someone on the UK TT forum who mounted his Aeropod outside the basebar handle. That seems like it would be much better. But the Aeropod is just an expensive airspeed indicator at this point since it lacks any software that would make field testing easier or better.

Really good airspeed measurement is key. Software that evaluates the test data in the field would be very nice. Software that coaches the rider through the test protocol in the field would probably be necessary for wide adoption.

Agreed. This is one of the reasons the initital releases worked with Golden Cheetah and specifically Aerolab in GC. I believe GC also provides a ton of stuff for analysis and understanding of test results



Bang on. The precision and the sample time to get a precise number depends on the accuracy of the elevation/pitch mechanism. I discussed this at length with one competitor, that never came to market and has no intent of coming to market




If you are make changes that affect the calibration of the air speed sensor yes a new calibration needs to be figured out. But that recalibration can be part of the test. It's not make change, calibrate, do test. Calibrate and do test can be combined. Imagine old power meters that required a zeroing by stopping, pressing zero vs a power meter that could re-zero based on no pedalling.


Agreed. But some would argue elevation change is even harder to do. Dealing with the quirks of power meters, speed sensors and others is also fun.



Agreed

What happened to the "Powerpod" ever getting able to talk to Wahoo stuff? Dead?