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Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment
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Notio Konect looks like it’s available now . Anyone get one yet ?


https://www.bikeradar.com/...price-details-52590/
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [7401southwick] [ In reply to ]
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Not actually available. They have an early adopter tour starting soon if you go to their page and read up
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [iamuwere] [ In reply to ]
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If it works for a grand that is fantastic
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [RBR] [ In reply to ]
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RBR wrote:
If it works for a grand that is fantastic

"If it works" is the big question for both this and the Aeropod, but assuming they both work the Aeropod is half the price of this.
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [el gato] [ In reply to ]
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el gato wrote:
RBR wrote:
If it works for a grand that is fantastic

"If it works" is the big question for both this and the Aeropod, but assuming they both work the Aeropod is half the price of this.

Not hea Dong it until your post

Supposedly it will measure power as well. Would be amazing if it works
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [el gato] [ In reply to ]
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el gato wrote:
RBR wrote:
If it works for a grand that is fantastic


"If it works" is the big question for both this and the Aeropod, but assuming they both work the Aeropod is half the price of this.

Agree, what is it different from Aeropod apart of design and price. The function look very same
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [UnUnU] [ In reply to ]
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Hi !

First, there is no ''if'', it works. We are currently working with Astana and several top level triathletes. Everybody seems to be happy with the results and they are using the device to do some racing choices.

Second, it doesn't mesure power. The reason why our device is working and that we have good results is that the Notio Konect must be used with a power meter. All CdA calculations use the power values from the power meter.

Third, I haven't seen Aeropod device so I can't comment on it. But I can tell that we have a working product and we are hitting the market now.

If you would like to have more info, I invite you to contact us or to visit our web site.

Regards,

Pierre-Andre
Notio Konect Product Specialist
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [Notio Konect] [ In reply to ]
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Notio Konect wrote:
Hi !

First, there is no ''if'', it works. We are currently working with Astana and several top level triathletes. Everybody seems to be happy with the results and they are using the device to do some racing choices.

Second, it doesn't mesure power. The reason why our device is working and that we have good results is that the Notio Konect must be used with a power meter. All CdA calculations use the power values from the power meter.

Third, I haven't seen Aeropod device so I can't comment on it. But I can tell that we have a working product and we are hitting the market now.

If you would like to have more info, I invite you to contact us or to visit our web site.

Regards,

Pierre-Andre

Hi Pierre-Andre,

I can understand you guys are busy, but if you invite people to contact you through the website take the courtesy to respond to the questions. Over the last few months/weeks I asked a few questions but I never got a response on any of them :-( To the point that I purchased an aerpod instead of waiting any longer for yours. But since i want to use it business wise as well i might still buy yours as well.

Regards,

Jeroen

Owner at TRIPRO, The Netherlands
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [TRIPRO] [ In reply to ]
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Hi Jeroen,

I apologize that you questions were not answered. I just sent you a PM.


Pierre-Andre
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [Notio Konect] [ In reply to ]
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Notio Konect wrote:
Hi Jeroen,

I apologize that you questions were not answered. I just sent you a PM.


Pierre-Andre

Hi Pierre-Andre,

Thanks fir the quick reply. Did you send it my my emailadres or to the ST pm. In the last case i didnt’ received it.

Jeroen

Owner at TRIPRO, The Netherlands
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [TRIPRO] [ In reply to ]
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Hi,

By ST, I just sent you another email to your personal address.

Regards,

Pierre-Andre
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [Notio Konect] [ In reply to ]
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Notio Konect wrote:
Hi !

First, there is no ''if'', it works. We are currently working with Astana and several top level triathletes. Everybody seems to be happy with the results and they are using the device to do some racing choices.

Second, it doesn't mesure power. The reason why our device is working and that we have good results is that the Notio Konect must be used with a power meter. All CdA calculations use the power values from the power meter.

Third, I haven't seen Aeropod device so I can't comment on it. But I can tell that we have a working product and we are hitting the market now.

If you would like to have more info, I invite you to contact us or to visit our web site.

Regards,

Pierre-Andre
Notio Konect Product Specialist

I can’t see on your website how to order
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [Notio Konect] [ In reply to ]
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Notio Konect wrote:
Hi !

First, there is no ''if'', it works. We are currently working with Astana and several top level triathletes. Everybody seems to be happy with the results and they are using the device to do some racing choices.

Second, it doesn't mesure power. The reason why our device is working and that we have good results is that the Notio Konect must be used with a power meter. All CdA calculations use the power values from the power meter.

Third, I haven't seen Aeropod device so I can't comment on it. But I can tell that we have a working product and we are hitting the market now.

If you would like to have more info, I invite you to contact us or to visit our web site.

Regards,

Pierre-Andre
Notio Konect Product Specialist

What is the best power meter to use with it?
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [RBR] [ In reply to ]
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Hi RBR,

Currently we only sell trough the North American Launch Tour. You have to select a destination to buy. After that launch Tour, we will it the market at large.

About your power meter, there is no perfect answer. The more precise your power meter, the better the CdA calculation. I will send you a private message to discuss it forward.

Regards,

Pierre-Andre
Notio Konect Product Specialist
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [RBR] [ In reply to ]
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I prefer to use PowerTap as it takes drivetrain resistance out of the equation.

Jim Manton / ERO Sports

"It's not about longer, or lower, or tilted, or not tilted. It's about getting smaller. Let the wind see as little of you as possible in the best way you can."

Aero Tidbits posted on Instagram & Facebook
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [Jim@EROsports] [ In reply to ]
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Hub, C1, P1?
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [turdburgler] [ In reply to ]
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turdburgler wrote:
Hub, C1, P1?

Hub. It measures post-drivetrain.

Jim Manton / ERO Sports

"It's not about longer, or lower, or tilted, or not tilted. It's about getting smaller. Let the wind see as little of you as possible in the best way you can."

Aero Tidbits posted on Instagram & Facebook
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [RBR] [ In reply to ]
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RBR wrote:
If it works for a grand that is fantastic


Depends on what your standard is for "works" I'm sure. What exactly do you want it to do?

Note that iBike had this function many years ago in the iAero, and later the Newton and Powerpod. It worked. It just never worked well enough to be useful. You could get much better CdA numbers by field testing without the device.
Last edited by: rruff: Jul 9, 18 22:16
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [rruff] [ In reply to ]
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Hi,

To us and our testers, ''works'' means a CdA precise enough to select their gear with the testing results. They were able to select between several helmets and clothing. The Notio Konect was also used to improve their position on the bike.

The main advantage is to be able to test on the road in real conditions. The wind tunnel and the track are great tools but it is not the same feeling as to test on the road, especially when you want to tweak your position.

regards,

Pierre-Andre Boulay
Notio Konect Product Specialist
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [Notio Konect] [ In reply to ]
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Notio Konect wrote:
Hi,

To us and our testers, ''works'' means a CdA precise enough to select their gear with the testing results. They were able to select between several helmets and clothing. The Notio Konect was also used to improve their position on the bike.

The main advantage is to be able to test on the road in real conditions. The wind tunnel and the track are great tools but it is not the same feeling as to test on the road, especially when you want to tweak your position.

regards,

Pierre-Andre Boulay
Notio Konect Product Specialist

Hi Pierre-Andre,

Thank you for posting here. I don't disagree with anything you've said, however for us (the consumer) "works" also means that it works all the time without drama, without a lot of messing aroundm and without having your engineers there with a pro team to make sure it's working properly. When we need customer support it's there, and when we need warranty support it's there. To use the Garmin Vector 3 pedals as an analogy. By your definition, they work. By many peoples' definitions here, they don't work very well at all. We're all hoping that this device works, in every sense of the word. Best of luck to you.
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [Notio Konect] [ In reply to ]
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Notio Konect wrote:
To us and our testers, ''works'' means a CdA precise enough to select their gear with the testing results. They were able to select between several helmets and clothing. The Notio Konect was also used to improve their position on the bike.

Are you going to publish exactly what the test procedure is for doing this, and resulting data precision in challenging (windy) conditions?

I'm skeptical that you'd be able to test for changes in position, particularly if the arm position changes, since the device is mounted in a location where there are significant scaling effects. Or is it necessary to go through a calibration procedure after every change?
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [Notio Konect] [ In reply to ]
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Pierre-Andre,

Best of luck to Notio! I'm very much interested in seeing your results!
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [rruff] [ In reply to ]
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Hi rruff,

We cover the testing procedure in the training session and we make sure that every client his able to know how to test properly.

About the changes in position, as for the wind conditions, we did our homework and we are confident in the data.

The need to calibrate the device will depend of the changes and can easily done while testing.

Regards,

Pierre-Andre
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [Notio Konect] [ In reply to ]
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Did the Montreal events happen? The website had this past weekend as dates but I haven't seen anything on the events and now I see a TBA for Montreal.

Curious if it did and if anyone was there and can share their experience.
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Re: Notio Konect - Aero Drag Measurment [Notio Konect] [ In reply to ]
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In my opinion this can really be a game changer specialy for tri. If you can use it during racing it will be the next step after PM’s.
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