I’m looking at a used Madone (and Venge Vias rim brake). I e read the brakes on the Madone were good, and better than those on the Venge. What rims and pads are you using? A new one of either of these bikes with discs is way out of my price range

Good point, I should clarify that they aren’t bad by any stretch, they just aren’t as powerful as the direct mount DA9100 brakes I came from on my Foil. I’m running Aforce AL33s with BXP pads and they’re great, I should probably do a little fine tuning though to tighten things up though. I agree, a new Madone disc frame is far out of my price range, but I think that bike will be great example of an perfect bike.

Also my mechanic complemented our easy the Madone build was (with the factory service manual online) rspecially compared to a Vias. I’ve ridden both and would buy an a Allez Sprint over a Vias any day of the week. I actually own 2 Allez Sprints and think for the money they are the absolute best bike around.

More photos here https://www.bikeradar.com/...-disc-spotted-52387/

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wow, I wish I was good enough to need that. that is pure.

Pictures like that shouldn't be allowed without at least showing the hub area...so the WHOLE story is shown ;-)

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that looks like it's got room for some pretty big tires, nice! my next bike will be a do-it all type of bike and wish they'd leave room for big tires on bikes like this as that's what I'd prefer. A road bike that you could also take off road. Where as most seem like offroad bikes that you can also ride on roads.

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Yeah..that's quite a lot more exposed to the wind, as compared to a pair of brake pads :-/

This looks like it will be one of the best examples to do an "apples to apples" comparison. VE testing (which includes power to rotate) against a regular Madone would be interesting...

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Maybe you will finally get your wish of comparing identical frames.

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Maybe I'll see about arranging something with the local Trek dealer...

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Let me know if you can pull it off. I'd PayPal you some beer money for the effort

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They have to be released for sale first ;-)

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I see this as a win-win. This is a great option if you want a comfortable aero disc bike. Hopefully people who can afford one will be interested in selling their rim-brake Madone. Then the rest of us cheapskates can hopefully get a reasonable deal on the old model. I have too much invested in PowerTap hubs to even consider a disc bike

I’ve looked at the Allez sprint a lot. What do you like about it?

I really like the look of this bike...

I just realized that this bike doesn't have top tube bosses. I know that top tube bentos aren't really a roady "thing" but, honestly, what's the harm in having bosses there?

I can't think of a single road bike with top tube bento bosses and I'm glad this one will not be the first.

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I regret not having them installed on my custom Stinner...

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But a custom steel/ti road bike, which already breaks its lines for things like cable bosses, it a lot different than an all-out carbon aero road bike.

Just look at the bike and its clean, purposeful lines. It's meant for racing, not snacking.

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Sounds like you haven't seen pics of my Stinner "Aero Camino" then ;-)

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I'm sold! The new Madone Disc needs bosses for a frame pump as well!

That's a nice bike, no question. And since it's YOUR bike that you had built custom for you, then you can damn well have it built the way you wanted it. But the Madone Disc is a different beast, and very few buyers of that bike are going to want to put a top tube bento on that thing. Horses for courses.

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Oh my. My wife said I could get a new Stinner as a wedding present but I didn’t know these exsisted.

I use mine mainly for crit racing where it really shines but I’ve logged thousands of miles between the 3 I’ve had. (Only reason I’ve replaced them is for colorway preferences.) I’ve done crits, road races, weekend rides, Mt Mitchell climbs and just about everything on it and the only time I’ve ever wished I was on a different bike was on a cobblestone road. This bike is STIFF. It will bounce your ass right off the seat if you aren’t paying attention, every with 24c TC tires, a carbon railed saddle and carbon bars you feel every little thing. That said the bike corners like a dream, has fairly decent aerodynamics, can get pretty light (I think mine was around 17# with DA9000 build, cages, powermeter, pedals and HED 6+ wheels) can handle 25c tires on HED + rims (maybe even 28s but I only have ran a 25 with plenty of space.) and most important it’s price leaves me a lot less worried. I go down on my Madone and I’m going to be a lot more worried about the consequences compared to a $1800 bike. I got in a wreck in a crit and walked away with a dent in the downtube but the bike still rides and handles the same as before and I have zero reservations about its integrity for future use. I really don’t think there’s a better deal out right now.

Looks like they have a through axle / QR hybrid system for fastening the hubs.

My question, anybody know what the rear dropout spacing is?

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