Buddy of mine is doing Kona. Just bought a new transition from specialized because they will ship there for free. Plus they are blowing them out....cheap!! So........it does not show up and what does specialized do? Set him up on a brand new Shiv. Dont know how he will run off of it but damn a new shiv!!!

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hello

a little update of my project I have found a solution to put the Di2 battery in the frame (in the seatpost) the only solution for the full integration is to make a hole so I have do it

Hey, all:
About to pull the trigger on a Shiv (TT), transferring over from another bike.

Does a large sound right?

I'm 5'11" and based on my curent bike I've got...
* Reach (center of bb to center of pads): 495mm
* Drop (measured from the top of the front of my saddle, which is where I actually ride during short TTs; I've got an Adamo, so measuring from the top of the saddle @ the middle of the rails would be misleading): ~12.5cm
* Current frame's stack = 536mm

I'm riding with a 110mm -17 degree stem, if that makes a difference.

For reference, stats on the Shiv TT are...
Frame size: M / L / XL
Reach to center (forward pos): 480 / 495 / 515
Reach to center (rearward pos): 458 / 473 / 493
Stack to pad holder (low): 543 / 543 / 543
Stack to pad holder (high): 658 / 658 / 658
Frame reach: 405 / 420 / 440
Frame stack: 495 / 495 / 495

I am subject to UCI rules re: saddle position (5cm behind the bb) and max length of extensions (75cm from bb to extremity of the bar incl. shifters).

Thanks for any thoughts! I'm leaning toward the large.

PS I forgot to mention that if/when I pull the trigger, I'll be looking to do a clean internal Di2 installation, so I'll be sure to post what I learn and the results. I'd like to use a Shimano Pro Missile Evo stem/bar setup. I believe the Specialized stem is effectively 75mm; the Shimano comes in 75, 85 and possibly one more, so the 75 v 85 would give me a little room in the reach if I need it (but then again I have that pesky 75cm limit mentioned above).

May I ask how you were able to tuck the Di2 junction box inside the frame without drilling a hole near the bottom bracket?

Many thanks, and I love the look of your project!

hello

I hope I understand what you ask me ( because my english is very bad) :-)

So for a complet integration I put all (cablage/juction box ......)in the nosecone ( only the battery will be in the seatpost) so I will have to cut all the cable to extend all them and weld the extension with the original cable . Naturally I put some picture as the start of th e project when I will do that ;-)

I hope that I indeed have you to explain and you can understand what I explain ;-)

king regards timtri13

Are you 156cm height ?

The Shiv TT allso come i size=XS

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No, I am 180cm. I believe a large is right, but I am curious for other opinions.

I don't ride a Shiv, but since you are at 495 reach, it seems you can go for the L or the XL (there is no stack difference after all), and it depends whether you prefer the shorter stem or longer stem setup. Shorter stem should feel more lively, longer stem more sluggish when cornering. On the other hand the XL will have a longer wheelbase. You would be further back (relatively) on the XL, so would have less pressure on the front wheel.

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i'm 190cm and just bought a large. 15cm of drop with the saddle nose (adamo) 1cm behind the bb. Still some tweaks to be done as I ride it more, and I'm not in love with the s-bend extensions so I may need to investigate a DIY fix. Apologies for the non-drive-side pic but this was in the middle of my fit session.

*ALSO* Tough to tell from the picture but this frame is all MATTE BLACK - no gloss accents on the frame. The only gloss is on the seatpost, stem and fork. Specialized tells me this is how the Shiv TT is shipping now, looks very proto-type-ish.

Mr. Spackler, cinderella boy, would you have any pictures handy of your aerobar setup with the new extensions? I'm investigating my options on aftermarket mods.
thanks

This build is getting my physically aroused.

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Thanks for this post. I realize that I am on the cusp and could reasonably choose either side, but what you wrote is very interesting.

On my current setup, I feel my weight it a bit far out over the front wheel, which is something I most notice when cornering; however, I am using a 110mm stem to achieve my position.

On the Shiv, the stem is always 75mm, correct? In other words, for both the L and XL, the bike would probably feel more lively than my current bike. Is that a fair statement?

The setup difference would be that on the L my pads would be farther forward, while on the XL they would be more toward the rear.

Wheelbase on the L is 976 vs 996 on the XL. (For reference, wheelbase on my road bike is 986mm.)

Since stem length doesn't change, does that change your answer?

love the look!

wow--190cm and a large. what is your preferred stack & reach?

my adamo has to be 5cm behind the bb. i would actually think that riding steeper would tend to push someone toward a larger frame (is that true?).

i am sure you have the right size frame (obviously there are a number of factors that go into it) -- so i'm not questioning your fit, just interested.

i can't see going to a medium for my situation (@180cm).

Not having studied the handlebar setup in detail, here is what I understand to be the case (might be wrong): on the XL you would mount the pads in the rear position, which is like having a shorter stem when in the aero position. On the L you would be in the forward position, which is like having a longer stem in this position.

When on the pursuit bars there shouldn't be any difference. So in summary:

L: more weight on front wheel, slower steering in aero position
XL: less weight on front wheel, faster steering in aero position

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Yes, they wrote. But if you measure from the center of the stem to the center of the handlebar, then measures the 100mm

I've even ordered a SHIVER TT 2012 and have come to me to have a size XS, because it has such a long stem.

I am 180cm tall and I have searched a lot on the web to see what pro riders who have ridden SHIVER TT 2012 this year and run the example Bert Grabsch from HightRoad on an XS and he is 179cm tall.

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thank you. this makes sense to me as well, in theory.

i am a little torn as to which way to go.

i'm 172cm
i'm on a lg

seems to work for me. it might be a tad long...... but i feel like there are more dynamic fits as a result. meaning i can stay in the aero pos and slide fore and aft as needed for stress relief/terrain/wind/just to switch it up. i do currently have my seat almost all the way forward and i intend to slide it back a smidge as it seems to be a little to far up. this would lead me to believe things are fine 'for me'. i also cut the extensions down by about an inch to get the Di2 shifters into my hands a little better.

overall, i'm happy with my size choice.
for reference, i move my seat up about .5cm since this video and leveled out the seat (it was off by a short hair)
http://contour.com/...t-shiva-roller-video

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Ok, but for us who run the time trial during the UCI rules that we must have seat 5cm behind the bottom bracket.

...and there you would have a problem with your height and the frame size.

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yes.......... there i might have an issue. but isn't the nose cone already an issue? (i'm not concerned with that really either way)

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Yes, but Shiver TT 2012 is the nose cone away, so it is UCI approved.

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sorry....... my bad, i forgot you were going for the coneless look.

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I'm 183cm and I ride a M. Since there is no adjustment fore and aft on the bar pads, I would be too stretched out on a L.

For another comparison, Rappstar is ~190cm and rides a Large (In the nosecone version).

It really depends on how you like to fit your reach. If you need to comply with the 5cm rule, a large might have you pretty stretched out.

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Without having them in front of me I think the stack on my 56cm P2 was ~60cm and reach was ~50cm to center of pads, which puts me right in the middle of the stack dimensions for all the sizes (543-685mm adjustment range), and at the long end of the Large. I'm long-legs / short torso so I wanted to give myself room to shorten the reach if necessary, as I doubt I could possibly go longer. I'm pretty close to the above dimensions on the Shiv but I'm still dialing. The adamo feels like it'll let me go a tad lower versus the SLR t1 i had on the p2.

is the bike completed and assembled yet? pics please...... did you use a clear coat after the mat-black?

Sorry--aren't stack and reach quoted relative to the bottom bracket, not to the seat? I apologize if my question is naive, but reach doesn't take into account the distance of the seat to the bottom bracket.

For instance, when I measure my current bike from the front of my saddle to the middle of the pads, I get 545mm. Measured from the BB to the pads I get 495mm (not surprisingly, this is exactly 5cm less as my saddle is 5cm back per UCI rules).

So...if my reach is 495 from my current bike (BB-center of pads), shouldn't I be looking for a bike like the large shiv (495 is the max) or XL (493 is the minimum)?

I ask this as a sincere question; correct me if I am misinformed. The medium only goes from 458 to 480 in terms of specified reach, and even though my saddle will be further back than a triathlete, as far as I know saddle position should not affect the measurements of the frame.