The other thing I dislike is his hate for Ironman to the point that he has nothing on his Instagram about the IMWC. I love PTO, even more than IM, but I believe both need coverage and you just can't choose to not cover part of the sport because you personally hate a brand. It's not fair to the athletes or the fans.

Nope. No troll. His Insta has zero content. I suppose all the efforts have been on podcasts, but I've noticed him posting a lot less on Insta. I guess there haven't been enough polarizing click bait stories to latch onto.

Nope. No troll. His Insta has zero content. I suppose all the efforts have been on podcasts, but I've noticed him posting a lot less on Insta. I guess there haven't been enough polarizing click bait stories to latch onto.

Why does Jack have so many haters on Slowtwitch? He seems to be universally adored on social media, but it seems that some people on this form are jealous that he managed to carve out a high profile triathlon media profile for himself.

Jack Kelly preached staunch anti doping position.

Triathlon hour and Wyn partner.

I really loathe insinuations such as this.
Assuming the worst and Beth’s positive result was correct. Does that mean in your world there are no second chances? Does that mean in your world that any business that she is then associated with is forever tainted and should be blacklisted? Because that is basically what you are implying.
Wyn has been built into a really nice premium product line that is used by a number of pros and has a strong and loyal following down under. Beth is one part of it. We are now so far post her suspension period. Heck, Wyn was even on one of the GTN pre race segments and they are working with Chelsea and have her in a prototype suit in Kona at this very moment. Which also happens to be where my swim coach is doing a swim camp etc with her pre the big dance.
Do we now need to put Chelsea in this same group of people who should not be associating with the brand?
This is just a joke. Jack is polarizing I get it, he is Australian and like Wurf, a lot of the world struggles to get the humour that we are all so used to. This forum loves to hate. He’s no Triathlon Taren promoting pseudo rubbish etc. He is unique on many levels and clearly has some close relationships with a number of pros and brands and his knowledge of the sport is exceptional all things considered.
Can we just let a guy (or gal) (or they/them) build their brand and be successful without making such stupid insinuations.

I really loathe insinuations such as this.
Assuming the worst and Beth’s positive result was correct. Does that mean in your world there are no second chances? Does that mean in your world that any business that she is then associated with is forever tainted and should be blacklisted? Because that is basically what you are implying.
Wyn has been built into a really nice premium product line that is used by a number of pros and has a strong and loyal following down under. Beth is one part of it. We are now so far post her suspension period. Heck, Wyn was even on one of the GTN pre race segments and they are working with Chelsea and have her in a prototype suit in Kona at this very moment. Which also happens to be where my swim coach is doing a swim camp etc with her pre the big dance.
Do we now need to put Chelsea in this same group of people who should not be associating with the brand?
This is just a joke. Jack is polarizing I get it, he is Australian and like Wurf, a lot of the world struggles to get the humour that we are all so used to. This forum loves to hate. He’s no Triathlon Taren promoting pseudo rubbish etc. He is unique on many levels and clearly has some close relationships with a number of pros and brands and his knowledge of the sport is exceptional all things considered.
Can we just let a guy (or gal) (or they/them) build their brand and be successful without making such stupid insinuations.

Riiiiight...so he has travelled all the way to France so he can ignore the IM world champs....and your criticism is that a podcaster who is actively doing podcasts, even has had the CEO of IM on again, is ignoring the WC's because he hasn't posted enough pretty pictures...

The internet summed up perfectly..

exactly right, like he knows all. You almost feel sorry for him because he thinks his relationships with the athletes are real friendships and not just business ,you can't help but think he sits at home each night looking at Fred Funks profile telling himself they're best friends.

Also, its clear he just makes stuff up about himself in another Podcast he was speaking on his own career and a quick search on OBSTRI of Jack results would say he has just made up his times and his 40 hour training weeks. He also announce he would come back to win AG Roth next year, another point of jack not living in the real world.

To be fair, I didn't even know what he looked like prior to his commentating gigs at the PTO US Open. If you look at the podcast's socials, it's all about the athletes and coaches. He did the now infamous Road to PTO European Open with Chartier, Funk, Noodt, Bishop, Royale just talking about their weekly training. He did a series where two coaches just talked to each other. He gave Hayden Wilde his own show. He's pivoted to more triathlon news content, but in the early days he focused on the athlete's training. I remember him posting about 'epic' sessions like Cam Brown's training calendar. So I disagree that the content he puts out is all about him.

Beth got popped, served her ban. Should Wyn be boycotted because if that?

There's an awfully wide gulf between an anti-doping violation (that included a reduced penalty) and rape/murder.

But to your question, I've shopped at brands or stores that have assisted ex-cons. Because if you've paid your debt to society, re-integration into society is also key versus treating someone as a pariah for eternity.

So there’s levels of wrong you are ok with.

I have never purchased Nike shoes or clothing due to their child labor back pre 2000

That’s my line.

I’d never buy a product from a convicted drug user

I’d never fly on certain Middle East airlines that have human rights violations

I notice sponsors on this site aren’t any of those so Dan thinks the same.

But that’s me.

So there’s levels of wrong you are ok with.

I have never purchased Nike shoes or clothing due to their child labor back pre 2000

That’s my line.

I’d never buy a product from a convicted drug user

I’d never fly on certain Middle East airlines that have human rights violations

I notice sponsors on this site aren’t any of those so Dan thinks the same.

But that’s me.