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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [timbasile] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in for both and only have to contend with a provincial border crossing, so I suspect there's a decent chance for me. That's good news for me, because I'm currently in the bike/run shape of my life. I wish I could say the same for swimming though.

If anyone's following the Facebook group discussion, everyone seems to be still worried about the border crossing.


I'm registered for both too, and also got a lower rate than usual for the September booking.
I'm in NS and am not confident I'll be able to leave the maritimes (or even NS), even if I am fully vaccinated, as they have us locked down even with low numbers, and the powers that be are not giving us any hope/plan of re-opening.
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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There are several "hard" dates that make things very difficult before August 30th which is why I don't think the full in Aug is an option.

Word on the street is the pride parade won't take place and that is typically the weekend of IMMT. That's an event to watch for indication if IMMT has a chance

I believe the air border has the best option of opening before Aug 30.

Do you guys think they’d have the Full the same weekend as the 70.3 if it gets rescheduled, or would that put too many people in town? Either way, REALLY hoping the Full happens this year

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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [TriSpencer] [ In reply to ]
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marcag wrote:
There are several "hard" dates that make things very difficult before August 30th which is why I don't think the full in Aug is an option.

Word on the street is the pride parade won't take place and that is typically the weekend of IMMT. That's an event to watch for indication if IMMT has a chance

I believe the air border has the best option of opening before Aug 30.


Do you guys think they’d have the Full the same weekend as the 70.3 if it gets rescheduled, or would that put too many people in town? Either way, REALLY hoping the Full happens this year

On one hand, the org usually does Sprint/Oly one day and 70.3 the other. The city can absorb a large number of athletes. Friends of mine that own places up there would be more than happy to get the rentals.

But I have no idea what this means from a volunteer point of vue and many more hours of roads being closed.
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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TriSpencer wrote:
marcag wrote:
There are several "hard" dates that make things very difficult before August 30th which is why I don't think the full in Aug is an option.

Word on the street is the pride parade won't take place and that is typically the weekend of IMMT. That's an event to watch for indication if IMMT has a chance

I believe the air border has the best option of opening before Aug 30.


Do you guys think they’d have the Full the same weekend as the 70.3 if it gets rescheduled, or would that put too many people in town? Either way, REALLY hoping the Full happens this year


On one hand, the org usually does Sprint/Oly one day and 70.3 the other. The city can absorb a large number of athletes. Friends of mine that own places up there would be more than happy to get the rentals.

But I have no idea what this means from a volunteer point of vue and many more hours of roads being closed.

I believe the entire point of cancelling the Sprint/5150 was to cut down on the amount of people that will be in and around the race all weekend. This event usually hosts 5-6000 athletes with more than half on the Saturday race and about 2500-3000 on the Sunday for 70.3. I cannot see a scenario where the local/provincial governments allow back to back events which would boost the numbers back up over 5000 for the weekend. And good point on volunteers....I've volunteered multiple times.....it's a long day....no way they get enough people to cover consecutive days.
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [WHITEJM74] [ In reply to ]
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I believe the entire point of cancelling the Sprint/5150 was to cut down on the amount of people that will be in and around the race all weekend.

Good point !

So I guess the speculation should be it won't be on the same weekend and the chances of a weekend before Sept 12th is very low.

Funny to see Ford being doom and gloom, Legault rhyming "vacciné" to "party" and Trudeau skating in between, worried about his fall elections.

In the mean time a specialist from Ottawa is saying our poop is really improving. He was on the radio referring to the waste water tests they do which is a precursor to spikes and drops in cases. The guys really knows his shit.
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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I can see neither a double header weekend on Sep 12 for 140.6+70.3 nor another weekend in Sept that they can cram in a 140.6. Sept 19th is getting late for a 140.6 given how much cold rain we can get and couple that with 15-17 hrs finishers, its not a really good formula (and having volunteers standing out there to help).

I think as it is, the races will be hard pressed for volunteers. Many of the volunteers come in from all around, and people are barely getting used to traveling. The triathletes have a vested interest, the volunteers not as much, at least not enough for a double header weekend or to head over on back to back weekends.

The last time they did the 140.6 and 70.3 WC three weeks apart in 2014, it was pretty big volunteer burnout. But maybe I am wrong....after 1.5 years of being able to do nothing maybe they would. I may make a weekend of things and do the Esprit half IM on Sep 11 and head over to Tremblant to volunteer at 70.3 on Sep 12

I think the only other hope for 140.6 is Aug 29th, but I don't see how that changes anything from the approval angle on Aug 22.

Good to see the wastewater numbers coming down!!!
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I think the only other hope for 140.6 is Aug 29th, but I don't see how that changes anything from the approval angle on Aug 22.


From a common sense perspective Aug 22 or 29 makes no difference

But these events will be tied to milestones from the government and right now the milestone is targeted at the very end of Aug. It won't be Aug 15 or 22 because the final milestone involves intense vaccination from Aug 15 to 30th (2nd dose in schools). The published guidelines show sporting events tied to this end of August milestone. Grand prix cyclist (Worldtour cycling race) is one.

Legault's August target is very ambitious and there are already headwinds appearing.

Of course maybe Legault will start handing out exceptions, but I doubt a triathlon will score high on the list.
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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marcag wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:

I think the only other hope for 140.6 is Aug 29th, but I don't see how that changes anything from the approval angle on Aug 22.


From a common sense perspective Aug 22 or 29 makes no difference

But these events will be tied to milestones from the government and right now the milestone is targeted at the very end of Aug. It won't be Aug 15 or 22 because the final milestone involves intense vaccination from Aug 15 to 30th (2nd dose in schools). The published guidelines show sporting events tied to this end of August milestone. Grand prix cyclist (Worldtour cycling race) is one.

Legault's August target is very ambitious and there are already headwinds appearing.

Of course maybe Legault will start handing out exceptions, but I doubt a triathlon will score high on the list.

thanks for that reminder. Hopefully the super spreader Stanley Cup parade and riots push everything over the finish line....we can only hope....go Habs :-)
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [WHITEJM74] [ In reply to ]
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...I've volunteered multiple times.....it's a long day....no way they get enough people to cover consecutive days.

Thats awesome. The volunteers and race staff at Tremblant are freakin amazing. I've been there 14 times now for races and they always do an incredible job taking care of everyone and making them feel welcome.
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [SBRcanuck] [ In reply to ]
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WHITEJM74 wrote:
...I've volunteered multiple times.....it's a long day....no way they get enough people to cover consecutive days.


Thats awesome. The volunteers and race staff at Tremblant are freakin amazing. I've been there 14 times now for races and they always do an incredible job taking care of everyone and making them feel welcome.

I'm usually on the water as the lead paddle board for the pro men's race.....way ahead of Lionel. ;-) Usually I have Antoine Jolicoeur-Desroches nipping at my heels as the first male out of the water. Lagerstrom was also one of the first out of the water in 2019.

Looking forward to being out there again if this goes off in September....I think I get as pumped up as the pros waiting for the gun to go off and the roar of the CF-18 ripping past.
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Boy was I ever wrong about the Leafs. Price looks like his old self.

Go Habs go.
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [Tri Bread] [ In reply to ]
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Boy was I ever wrong about the Leafs. Price looks like his old self.

Go Habs go.

OK, now we get the experiment of the Habs having minimally two more 2500 person supersreader events. If the Covid19 needle stays down, this will be helpful for all aspects of reopening. If things explode we are screwed.

On a separate note, the organizers of Traversee du Lac Tremblant 12km lake crossing swim the weekend before IM Tremblant have approved my application to race and say their event is on. Over the two days between the 1km, 3km, 5km, 12km event it is probably 1/3 the size of IM Tremblant weekend traffic. Not sure if they will get to run their event, but I am going to give them my money, hope it happens, train for it and the cards will fall where they fall. But its a good indication that they are going ahead with plans.
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Tri Bread wrote:
Boy was I ever wrong about the Leafs. Price looks like his old self.

Go Habs go.


OK, now we get the experiment of the Habs having minimally two more 2500 person supersreader events. If the Covid19 needle stays down, this will be helpful for all aspects of reopening. If things explode we are screwed.

On a separate note, the organizers of Traversee du Lac Tremblant 12km lake crossing swim the weekend before IM Tremblant have approved my application to race and say their event is on. Over the two days between the 1km, 3km, 5km, 12km event it is probably 1/3 the size of IM Tremblant weekend traffic. Not sure if they will get to run their event, but I am going to give them my money, hope it happens, train for it and the cards will fall where they fall. But its a good indication that they are going ahead with plans.

Dev, are you also registered to race IMMT?
I am, and if it happens (not confident), I may try to convince the family to go up early and do the swim event as well, would do the 5km, then chill for the week leading up to race.
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [SBRcanuck] [ In reply to ]
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SBRcanuck wrote:
devashish_paul wrote:
Tri Bread wrote:
Boy was I ever wrong about the Leafs. Price looks like his old self.

Go Habs go.


OK, now we get the experiment of the Habs having minimally two more 2500 person supersreader events. If the Covid19 needle stays down, this will be helpful for all aspects of reopening. If things explode we are screwed.

On a separate note, the organizers of Traversee du Lac Tremblant 12km lake crossing swim the weekend before IM Tremblant have approved my application to race and say their event is on. Over the two days between the 1km, 3km, 5km, 12km event it is probably 1/3 the size of IM Tremblant weekend traffic. Not sure if they will get to run their event, but I am going to give them my money, hope it happens, train for it and the cards will fall where they fall. But its a good indication that they are going ahead with plans.


Dev, are you also registered to race IMMT?
I am, and if it happens (not confident), I may try to convince the family to go up early and do the swim event as well, would do the 5km, then chill for the week leading up to race.

I am not registered for IM Tremblant, but if it happens and if they open up some slots, then I would like to do it. And if they have the 12km swim crossing race, I would like to do that. I don't think 12km swim fitness and IM fitness are that mutually exclusive. 12km swim fitness carries me a long long long way towards T2 since biking is so much easier than swimming (for endurance). The hard part is the run fitness.

But basically the way do do this is alternating weeks that are swim and run focus one week and bike focus the next week. Now that open water swimming is warm enough that should be doable, and then I do no races, one race or two....

Sure a 12km swim would take away from an IM (both in prep and weekend before fatigue), but after sitting shut out of events for effectively 2 seasons, if I get the opp (and health) to do 2 big events in 2 weekends, then why not!!!
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I have emailed them asking if it was possible to get on a waiting list if spots open up due to the border remaining closed. They have told me that even if the border remains closed and US participants have to defer/transfer/whatever, they will not be opening up any additional spots to keep numbers down due to Covid.
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [sonadortris] [ In reply to ]
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I am in a relay deferred from 2020 and my team fell apart (between injury/visa problems/work conflict). I asked IMMT for a cancellation, thinking they might be interested in reducing the number of participants -> refused (I am in the US).


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I have emailed them asking if it was possible to get on a waiting list if spots open up due to the border remaining closed. They have told me that even if the border remains closed and US participants have to defer/transfer/whatever, they will not be opening up any additional spots to keep numbers down due to Covid.
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Flights and hotel booked, but starting to think I'd rather defer to a US race like Wisconsin (if offered) due to the uncertainties of US to Canada travel. Hopefully we'll hear something soon.....

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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [sonadortris] [ In reply to ]
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I have emailed them asking if it was possible to get on a waiting list if spots open up due to the border remaining closed. They have told me that even if the border remains closed and US participants have to defer/transfer/whatever, they will not be opening up any additional spots to keep numbers down due to Covid.

Who is them/they? Ironman? If so, astonished you got an informative response like that.

I cannot get a full refund on my accommodations after 21 June, so hoping for some helpful news before then.
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [Petrarch] [ In reply to ]
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sonadortris wrote:
I have emailed them asking if it was possible to get on a waiting list if spots open up due to the border remaining closed. They have told me that even if the border remains closed and US participants have to defer/transfer/whatever, they will not be opening up any additional spots to keep numbers down due to Covid.

Who is them/they? Ironman? If so, astonished you got an informative response like that.

I cannot get a full refund on my accommodations after 21 June, so hoping for some helpful news before then.

I emailed monttremblant@ironman.com
It was a short email. I asked them if there is a chance I might be able to get a spot in the race if the border remains closed and the US participants can’t come. They said they will not be adding any spots, with covid they have to keep the numbers down.
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Montreal marathon on Sept 24-26 cancelled


In french

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/...vwXCLI86Nb4V9SDlj1O0


The Grand prix cyclistes (worldtour event) Sept 10-12 cancelled

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/...quebec-montreal-2021

Very bizarre
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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Montreal marathon on Sept 24-26 cancelled


In french

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/...vwXCLI86Nb4V9SDlj1O0


The Grand prix cyclistes (worldtour event) Sept 10-12 cancelled

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/...quebec-montreal-2021

Very bizarre

This is getting annoying. The fact that Penticton already made their call, we need to hear from IMMT soon

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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [TriSpencer] [ In reply to ]
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marcag wrote:
Montreal marathon on Sept 24-26 cancelled


In french

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/...vwXCLI86Nb4V9SDlj1O0


The Grand prix cyclistes (worldtour event) Sept 10-12 cancelled

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/...quebec-montreal-2021

Very bizarre


This is getting annoying. The fact that Penticton already made their call, we need to hear from IMMT soon

WTC has made it pretty clear that races are on until they are told they can't hold them. IMMT likely hasn't been told 'no' yet from the province.
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [SBRcanuck] [ In reply to ]
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SBRcanuck wrote:
TriSpencer wrote:
marcag wrote:
Montreal marathon on Sept 24-26 cancelled


In french

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/...vwXCLI86Nb4V9SDlj1O0


The Grand prix cyclistes (worldtour event) Sept 10-12 cancelled

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/...quebec-montreal-2021

Very bizarre


This is getting annoying. The fact that Penticton already made their call, we need to hear from IMMT soon


WTC has made it pretty clear that races are on until they are told they can't hold them. IMMT likely hasn't been told 'no' yet from the province.


I am not sure why people think there is any hope of the full happening. Maybe they know something I don't.

But from Quebec's opening plan https://www.quebec.ca/...virus/reopening-plan

"Additional relief for gatherings, sports and recreation" does not occur until "End of August or later" and depends on "75% of those aged 12 years and over" being vaccinated.

It is almost impossible to hit that last condition before end of August. Quebec's plan is to vaccinate the kids in the last two weeks of August upon return to school.


Smaller events (Gatineau for example) are happening at the end of July. I am not sure what the cutoff in size if that allows it to take place
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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On a somewhat related note indoor crowd size at Montreal Canadiens playoff games got upped to 3500. Let's see what shakes out. It is only 16 June. A lot can happen in roughly 70 days.
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Re: IM Tremblant 70.3 (Sep 12) and 140.6 (Aug 22) discussion [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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On a somewhat related note indoor crowd size at Montreal Canadiens playoff games got upped to 3500. Let's see what shakes out. It is only 16 June. A lot can happen in roughly 70 days.

Agree a lot can happen, but out of towners need to make decisions now and it's irresponsible for organizers to not be giving them the state of decision making.
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