Speaking from experience, as long as you have to switch, it doesn't matter if it's 1 or 2 pedals. You're already at the bike, tool in the hand, it doesn't matter anymore. But switching them a while it's not even a minute. Watch dc rainnaker, think he has a video showing how fast he switches them.

I'd definitely not pay extra for a second non-pm pedal. Only extra cost worth it is the duos.

This video makes it look like a 30 second deal, any idea how accurate? I'd rather save 400 and buy a 2nd Favero non power pedal for $97.

Makes sense...I have Keo Look pedals already so might try using the existing right one on other bike. Not sure the weight difference is noticeable and non matching isn't an issue for me. Or ill switch both like you said.

It is pretty close. They left out a few seconds on either end torquing the pedals to pop them loose and then torquing them tight on the 2nd bike. Loosening the pedals is not trivial. That takes most of the removal time, because you need to position the pedal with the wrench and get leverage. Add another minute to the video for a more accurate picture. So, 90 seconds is a conservative total swap time.

The pedals stay loose once you put a decent amount of bike grease into the pedal threads once in awhile. I do if it feels like the pedals start to get sticky, maybe once every 2-3 months, super easy, just squeeze it in.

It probably takes me 2 minutes to do it - it takes me slightly longer to thread the pedals back on than removing them. It is really easy, but you do have to line it up right. Removing the pedals is a cakewalk if you keep things greased.

Still, 2-3 minutes x 20-30 swaps per year adds up quick - and use this thing for 3+ years, and for me it's clearly worth the cost of just buying a 2nd uno to avoid these fast swaps if I'm doing them frequently.

And a thread about when a power pedal will be back in stock turns into a debate about uno vs dual-sided pedals!! And the the person who started the thread still doesn't have an answer. LoL!

To add my 2 cents: when getting multiple bike fits on a computrainer, my left/right was always 49/50 so I figured why pay extra when I know my power is even to start at general aerobic effort. I really don't care if there's a discrepancy in left/right during a Sprint. Although it would be useful if I knew for hard/ above threshold efforts if there were a major left/right discrepancy, but I highly doubt there is. I've been using the 1-sided Vector 3's for two years and have no regrets.

Sorry no one answered your question!

I just get a mallet and tap the wrench right away. Usually the pedal is loose on the first go.

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Mine is not usually overly tight, but it is secure. On removal, it does not have the mechanical advantage of the back wheel preventing the crankset from spinning. On tightening, the freewheel locks and braces the crankset from moving, so I can tighten it one-handed. I have to position the pedal wrench so it is not hitting the frame, but has enough room for my hand while I hold the opposite crank arm.

The whole process takes very little time. But, I thought it was funny that the video omitted the only hard part of the R&R transactions.

You guys are torqing(sp)?

I can get each pedal off very quickly now, the vid is pretty accurate for me at least

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The Park Tool 8mm wrench makes pedal changes so much easier.

https://www.amazon.com/...97681832&sr=8-32

I swap my Assiomas around all the time and it’s pretty quick. My technique is to put the pedal at 3:00 position (toward the front wheel), put the wrench in also at around 3:00 position, step on pedal, and pull up. That loosens the pedal easily, then use the short end of the Park Tool wrench to unscrew the pedal. This way I never have to guess which way to loosen the pedals.

I don't torque. For some reason they come off real easy when installed on my R8000 crankset, but getting it off my 6800 crankset is more of a struggle.
But with the mallet it is like a 10 second difference per pedal.

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It actually omitted the two most time-consuming parts, breaking them loose and recalibrating.

I keep plenty of grease on the threads and have a long levered 8mm allen key, so it's not terribly difficult, but it's clearly the most challenging part of swapping them.

And if you just install them on a new bike, you have to calibrate them! That's not instantaneous either. In my experience, and this might be just me, it's not uncommon to get a few calibration error messages that force me to force-close the app and start over.

So not wildly time-consuming, but the two things making it so are not in that video.

I do a recalibration via the Favero app when I swap. I know the instructions recommend doing so, but I don't have any problems with it despite swapping it between TT and road bike 1-2x/wk, every week.

I posted above about how amazingly precise my Favero power results has been (it's commonly down to the watt for repeated rides in a single week) so I seriously doubt it's critical to have to recalibrate more than once in a long while. (I haven't done it in the Favero app since the day I got it.)

I still perform the Garmin 945 watch's calibration request when I start a new bike workout, not sure if that's the same exact thing, but it only takes seconds.

Honestly seemed like a longshot that anyone was actually going to have an exact answer for me but figured there couldn't be any harm in asking. Happy to see people discuss the pedals in general though

Is 850 good enough for them? Like when they retail for 650 does that cost ending up being more due to being from an Italian company with shipping and everything? Because Id be willing if it was really only like 100 up on cost but 200 more than normal seems like a bit of a waste to me.

If you compare 850 for Assioma DUO vs. Garmin Vector 3 dual-sided $999.00 direct from Garmin, I guess the 171 premium (vs. Assioma retail price $679 w/ 50 day lead-time) may be worth it. For what it's worth, MyBikeShop has the Garmin Vector 3's in stock for $825.00. So it's up to you.

If it were me, I'd just place the order direct with Assioma for $679 and wait for delivery, and use RPE and/or HR for the next months and a half -- and spend the extra 171 dollars on a new Tri Kit, or buy 6 months of Gatorade Endurance and Protein Recovery. But that's just me.

Yeah i'll probably just wait it out. No need for it right this second. Been doing a lot more run training to do a 5k and half marathon time trial in October and have been giving the bike a little break but will start hopping back on for easy spins and some RPE/Heart Rate workouts 1-2x a week soon

Just got the email to purchase a set from Favero, had signed up to be on the wait list a couple weeks ago and ended up buying a pair on Amazon so I just bought a pair for my wife through the email link.

Same here, ordered the uno for $436 total

Clever Training has them back in stock: https://www.clevertraining.com/...-cycling-power-meter

Hey SnowChicken I just got an email that Clever Training Assioma Duo pedals are in stock - https://www.clevertraining.com/...-cycling-power-meter

Some people have had not-so-good experiences with them; however, I'm in the states and have ordered from them and had no issues. Seems about 80% have no issues and 20% ... well, they had some issues.

Also, you can easily get a 10% off if you just give them a new email address. I have a 10% off code if you need. Let me know if you need it and I'll PM you. But honestly Dude, the Uno sided is $414 w/ 10% of is $373 bucks!! Myself and many athletes use the Uno side and have zero issues. You're highly likely never to utilize all the metrics for the duo side, and unless you have a noticeable imbalance between left and right leg body mechanics, you really don't need the Duo. It's overkill. Just sayin' :-)

Favero actually just got back to me so I was able to place an order with them. For anyone looking at this thread I put my reservation in mid June and got the reply right around 2 months later.

Stoked to start actually training with power though!

In stock at Sigma Sport in the UK. Just got mine and very pleased with them.

https://www.sigmasports.com/...er-Meter-Pedals/IWSX

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Does anyone want my reservation for the Duo? I reserved but changed my mind as all of my other bikes have shimano pedals and it looks like I can order now. It looks easy enough to just change the login info and send you the link. It expires in 3 days

Nothing to contribute other than to say I have the Duos and they're fantastic - would recommend waiting rather than buying an alternative product based on my user experience.

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I also just got a set of DUO pedals -- ordered from here: https://powermetercity.com/...-power-meter-pedals/ -- they seem to still be in stock. Got to me within two days, no complaints so far!