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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [spot] [ In reply to ]
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spot wrote:

Is my sarcasm detector broken?



Using "orange theory," "crossfit," "HIIT," and "Greenfield" in like 4 sentences is like pimp-slapping you in the face with a back-handed quadruple dose of sarcasm. So, yes.

That said, I'm loving crossfit.
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [Ian in Oz] [ In reply to ]
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+1
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [trail] [ In reply to ]
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I dont know why people do cardio all the time. They won't get very big that way. Keep doing your cardio and you will get smaller by the hour.
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [COACHtoby] [ In reply to ]
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COACHtoby wrote:
Misery wrote:
Just a new account creating a dumb, trolling topic and then giggling behind their hands.


Thanks for the warm welcome ;-)

You answered two posts with ;-). It is :-). Yours use of the semicolon makes your smiley face look like it has a wandering eye. Wow, just wow.
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [endosch2] [ In reply to ]
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You're actually better off not doing any cardio and only lift—people don't realize this, but tons of studies show that cardio exercise literally eats muscle proteins/amino acids first. That's why when you do cardio you shouldn't eat any carbs or fat and only take in protein and a steady stream of BCAAs... otherwise, you're body is eating itself.

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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:

Using "orange theory," "crossfit," "HIIT," and "Greenfield" in like 4 sentences is like pimp-slapping you in the face with a back-handed quadruple dose of sarcasm.

LOL

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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [endosch2] [ In reply to ]
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endosch2 wrote:
Yours use of the semicolon makes your smiley face look like it has a wandering eye.
8.5 : 10

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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [cloy] [ In reply to ]
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cloy wrote:
You're actually better off not doing any cardio and only lift—people don't realize this, but tons of studies show that cardio exercise literally eats muscle proteins/amino acids first. That's why when you do cardio you shouldn't eat any carbs or fat and only take in protein and a steady stream of BCAAs... otherwise, you're body is eating itself.

Right on! All men 45-49 follow this advice!
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [spot] [ In reply to ]
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spot wrote:
Is my sarcasm detector broken?

To paraphrase Guardians of the Galaxy: "Your reflexes are so fast, nothing goes over your head!!"
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [HuffNPuff] [ In reply to ]
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HuffNPuff wrote:
spot wrote:
Is my sarcasm detector broken?

To paraphrase Guardians of the Galaxy: "Your reflexes are so fast, nothing goes over your head!!"

Yeah, I re-read Cloy’s post, and I really have no defense.

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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [COACHtoby] [ In reply to ]
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COACHtoby wrote:
Derekl wrote:
You're a coach?


That's correct :-)

Something fishy going on here. A real coach should already know the answer to the original question and should not be gathering advice from armchair triathletes.
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [RichardL] [ In reply to ]
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RichardL wrote:

Something fishy going on here. A real coach should already know the answer to the original question and should not be gathering advice from armchair triathletes.

You're behind. We've decided the question was either Socratic or sarcastic.
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [endosch2] [ In reply to ]
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endosch2 wrote:
I dont know why people do cardio all the time. They won't get very big that way. Keep doing your cardio and you will get smaller by the hour.

In an embarrassingly funny way, I really used to think that way. I have to admit it: I used to be a muscle-head douchebag. God, the shame.

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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [mdtrihard] [ In reply to ]
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mdtrihard wrote:
depends.....

They don't make you faster per se, they just remove the need to stop and pee.
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [anthonypat] [ In reply to ]
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anthonypat wrote:
COACHtoby wrote:
Derekl wrote:
You're a coach?


That's correct :-)


Not a question I'd like out of my coach.

Other things I wouldn't like to hear:

Bike Mechanic: What's a quick release skewer?
Swim coach: You can swim, right? I don't like the water
Run coach: Do you have any advice on blisters? Whenever I run more than 3 miles I get them
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [dado0583] [ In reply to ]
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dado0583 wrote:
anthonypat wrote:
COACHtoby wrote:
Derekl wrote:
You're a coach?


That's correct :-)


Not a question I'd like out of my coach.


Other things I wouldn't like to hear:

Bike Mechanic: What's a quick release skewer?
Swim coach: You can swim, right? I don't like the water
Run coach: Do you have any advice on blisters? Whenever I run more than 3 miles I get them

Some pretty good swim coaches don't really swim that well themselves or have never swum competitively.
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [gregf83] [ In reply to ]
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Looks like after 'mining' the data they found a very weak correlation between CTL and FTP. Not particularly insightful.

The overall strength of the relationship isn't the point. There are numerous factors that contribute to an athlete's FTP (weather, oxygen in the air, crank length, age, fitness), and carving out a piece of the variance can still provide insight. The point is the relative strength of the relationships compared with the other factors the author was considering. His point still stands that CTL is a stronger single predictor than intensity and monthly hours alone. So the old school thought of only doing long easy rides and the new HITT meme can be put to rest - the better predictor of FTP is a program that utilizes consistency and pacing in their ATP.

The only odd thing with this analysis is that CTL takes into account monthly hours and intensity, and thus it is very obvious why CTL would be a better single predictor.
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [trail] [ In reply to ]
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trail wrote:
RichardL wrote:


Something fishy going on here. A real coach should already know the answer to the original question and should not be gathering advice from armchair triathletes.


You're behind. We've decided the question was either Socratic or sarcastic.

What about stochastic?
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [COACHtoby] [ In reply to ]
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No you just need salbutamol
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [ChandlerMyles] [ In reply to ]
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ChandlerMyles wrote:
.... There are numerous factors that contribute to an athlete's FTP (weather, oxygen in the air, crank length, age, fitness) ....

Noooooo!

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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [Richard Blaine] [ In reply to ]
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Richard Blaine wrote:
ChandlerMyles wrote:
.... There are numerous factors that contribute to an athlete's FTP (weather, oxygen in the air, crank length, age, fitness) ....


Noooooo!

Careful! You are okay so far.

Years ago on a different forum it was said that if you say the name F _ _ _ _ D _ _ three times he would show up and haunt the forum until he was banned. Now he has returned as a poltergeist taking possession of willing souls to use as a flesh puppet to post where he was once banned.
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My N=1 this year on this topic.

I have about the same amount of time and miles as last year and yet my FTP is 20 watts lower this year because of work, illness and injury and the inability to train more in that submaximal range of intensity (L4ish). More or equal time without stimulating adaptation has made me slower a degree or two.

My hope is that 2018 I get better quality of training with about the same amount of time/miles.
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [COACHtoby] [ In reply to ]
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As an open question, you'll get a few interpretations. Our interpretation (Disclosure: I am the founder of Xert) is that there are a number of factors that make you "faster", more power available for the event you're racing in is one aspect. "More" really depends on what you're tracking: time, distance or some other quantifiable measure of "more cycling". Xert uses 3 dimensions of "more", namely more lower training load, more high training load and more peak training load, each of which contributes to you being faster but come into affect over different intensities. More lower training load correlates with higher FTP (or TP in our lingo), more high training load correlates with a larger High Intensity Energy store and more peak training load correlates with higher Peak Power. The *more* training load you can accumulate, the higher each of these values.

So, in general, more cycling makes you faster but the dimension you're increasing affects which part of you gets faster.

Does this answer the question? :-)

Armando Mastracci, Founder of Xert, an advanced data analytics and training platform. Blog, Podcasts
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [baronbiosys] [ In reply to ]
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baronbiosys wrote:
As an open question, you'll get a few interpretations. Our interpretation (Disclosure: I am the founder of Xert) is that there are a number of factors that make you "faster", more power available for the event you're racing in is one aspect. "More" really depends on what you're tracking: time, distance or some other quantifiable measure of "more cycling". Xert uses 3 dimensions of "more", namely more lower training load, more high training load and more peak training load, each of which contributes to you being faster but come into affect over different intensities. More lower training load correlates with higher FTP (or TP in our lingo), more high training load correlates with a larger High Intensity Energy store and more peak training load correlates with higher Peak Power. The *more* training load you can accumulate, the higher each of these values.

So, in general, more cycling makes you faster but the dimension you're increasing affects which part of you gets faster.

Does this answer the question? :-)


Yeah, but how much can you squat?

This thread had degenerated into sarcasm until you came on with what looks like a back handed sales shill. Lets not get serious here.
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Re: Does more cycling make you faster? [endosch2] [ In reply to ]
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endosch2 wrote:
baronbiosys wrote:
As an open question, you'll get a few interpretations. Our interpretation (Disclosure: I am the founder of Xert) is that there are a number of factors that make you "faster", more power available for the event you're racing in is one aspect. "More" really depends on what you're tracking: time, distance or some other quantifiable measure of "more cycling". Xert uses 3 dimensions of "more", namely more lower training load, more high training load and more peak training load, each of which contributes to you being faster but come into affect over different intensities. More lower training load correlates with higher FTP (or TP in our lingo), more high training load correlates with a larger High Intensity Energy store and more peak training load correlates with higher Peak Power. The *more* training load you can accumulate, the higher each of these values.

So, in general, more cycling makes you faster but the dimension you're increasing affects which part of you gets faster.

Does this answer the question? :-)


Yeah, but how much can you squat?

This thread had degenerated into sarcasm until you came on with what looks like a back handed sales shill. Lets not get serious here.

Was just having fun here too and sharing an entirely new way of looking at rather fundamental question that mostly likely very few have considered before. Apologies if you thought it was "back handed". Disclosure qualifier in the second sentence meant to let folks know that it's coming from a vendor. Cheers.

Armando Mastracci, Founder of Xert, an advanced data analytics and training platform. Blog, Podcasts
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