“Watched AB and LS’s battle at one of the 70.3 races and LS was 33 sec behind overall. He ran 2-3 min faster than AB. Not sure what’s going to be LS’s strategy against ITU guys. “

LS running 2-3 mins faster than AB while LOOSING by 33 seconds means absolutely nothing. AB and Frodo run as fast as they need to win, that’s it. Same with the bike. There is a reason Lionel has never won a major championship. He works as hard or harder than anyone, but to this point he has proven he is not as good as the best in championship races, when everybody is in their best shape. I would be very surprised if Lionel makes up much more than a minute on the leaders in the bike, and given that I am pretty sure he has never run sub 1:10 in a legitimate 13.1 in a 70.3, and there are several in this field who have...game over!
LS is a great personality, and fun to follow, but IMO possibly the most over rated triathlete (but certainly friggin good!)

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I am certainly not a member of the Lionel cult but I would change "most over rated" to "most over hyped",There is a subtle difference but it makes a difference as Lionel is seriously talented and has earned respect, if tempered by his Mad Scientist lunacy.I remember years ago I had the the flaming torch and pitchfork crowd here on ST baying for my blood when I called Des Ficker the most over hyped female triathlete on ST.She was a marketers dream who never quite made that leap to the greatness associated with winning "A Major".The maddening crowd here failed to make the distinction between over rated and over hyped. Seriously you would have thought I had kicked a puppy or something. :-)

I am sure somebody is going to tell you that Lionel won the ITU Long Course Worlds and the Challenge "Championship" but we all know that nobody really counts the ITU LC race as anything but a novelty and the Challenge Samorin race is much the same. This Daytona race would never have the hype it does today if COVID hadn't screwed up everyones race calendar and a shitload of money wasn't being tossed around.I hope tomorrows races live up to the hype and it is the start of something great for the sport.

I doubt it, he wouldn't be racing then under the current climate!

7/2 seems like fantastic odds for betting on Holly. I personally think it's crazy not to think she's the heavy favorite. If I was in a state where it was a little easier to place a bet online I'd stake $20 on her.
5/1 for Gustav also seems great, though I'm less sure on that one.

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The money to be made is on the EW bets, I only need one of my bets to come in to cover my outlay, then if any of the others come in its all profit, I used to make a killing on ITU bookies don't know Triathlon too well.

I was going to go all in on Nicola Spirig, but she said she's not as peak fitness - nevertheless, I still see her on the podium:

Holly Lawrence gets away on the swim, holds it on the bike, can't quite get caught on the run by

Nicola Spirig
Anne Haug

(emotional picks: Paula Findlay and Rachel McBride)


For the men,

Gustave Iden late in the run edges out
Alistair Brownlee
Javier Gomez

(emotional picks: Cody Beals and Lionel Sanders)

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so i put 5 euro on spirig @ 6 1
and got a 10 free euro bed on stimpson 12 1
and 10 euro free bet on lawrance 3.5

Why haven't they for coach Barry as a pundit? Never heard of the bloke.

Very slick production so far.

Vincent Luis for the win. He will win the Olympics next year too.

Katrina Matthews out of the race. Someone just lost a lot of money.

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post of the year?

It's gotta be top 5 at least. He did indeed, know what to do.

It seems @sciguy hit the nail on the head. Kienle wrote after the race that he had caught a cold during race week (two covid tests came back negative). The DNF was due to injury, but good “diagnosis” nonetheless!

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Yeah that is actully really well spotted! Too bad as he had a really good swim!

Can confirm. Gustav Iden knows what Gustav Iden should do.

I want a shirt with this printed on it please!

More like top 5 ever. That’s legendary status to come post that on here and then go out and kick the shit out of the field.

Before the race when you said you confirm you know what Gustav needs to know, I asked you if Alistair knew what he needed to do. Looks like Gustav had a better idea of himself than Alistair!

I just wanna know how many people lost a bunch of money betting on Ali Brownlee making the podium.

but odds on ali were crap. and don't forget the bookmakers were also taking paula at 12:1, which would've been a very smart bet!

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Fair point, I feel bad for the people who put money down on Lisa Norden, not knowing she was injured. Definitely feel worse for Norden herself though. Kinda shitty putting the camera in her face and trying to have a conversation with her about why she's walking when she was kind of a favorite.

I have no problem reposting the bets I put on, the Paula Findlay EW bet more than covered the losses on all the rest, not much profit but having a bit of money on sport always makes it more exciting.

Which site do you use out of interest?

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I saw his interview. He said he struggled on the run but caffeine kicked in so we was able to keep running.
I watched the coverage like 3 times already and no clue where he struggled. He had a game face on and was very consistent.
LS and other guys even couldn't walk well after crossing the finish line but Iden looked fresh. I was like WTH??????

Looking back through this thread this looks like one of the best predictions though order is flipped. getting 4 of the top 6 right is definitely impressive though. No one expected Matt Hanson or George Goodwin to be in the mix and I think everyone expected AB to be up there but cant control injuries unfortunately

What was actually remarkable was how smooth Paula and him looked they didn’t look like they were pushing. It shows you where they were on their fitness.

Also just remembered this is like what Gomez said when he won in Sydney, I think, after he wrecked on a rainy bike course. He said something like well I ran 4:40 miles to catch back up and then got a breather and took it easy at 5:10/mile. It was in Km but you get the point. They’re just in a different world when it comes to this stuff and what easy and struggling are.