hope you don't break your hip when you fall off that high horse.
morals???

seriously you think peeing in the pool is a moral issue?

They climbed in via the window and left it open in the winter. (Apparently they did not think about just trying the door:) That open window was the only way I knew anyone had been in the house. But you have a point as the house was not "broken into" and nothing was stolen, so technically it was not a "robbery".

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"Anyone can be who they want to be IF they have the HUNGER and the DRIVE."

Wouldn't it depend on what the rules of the pool are? I'm pretty sure that if I asked the gym if peeing in the pool was OK or not they would tell me no. If I choose to disregard their rules (whether I agree or not is irrelevant since I entered into some kind agreement to follow all their rules when I joined) am I not guilty of some type of moral breach?

When I see a local ordinance or law prohibiting peeing in the pool we'll have that discussion and your question might be relevant.

I don't see that as a morality issue

I don't see peeing in the pool as a morality issue either. I see breaking the rules I've agreed to follow as one though.

Regardless, I don't care if you pee the pool.

Seriously, you are all being irrational. People are perfectly willing to swim in lakes and ponds where animals are doing who knows what, things are dying and decomposing. Yet you want your pool water to be some untouched diamond pure nectar of the gods. Imagine if we put the water from some ponds or lakes in a pool, you'd be like "that water is unfit, unsafe, look how murky and brown!". It's a matter of perception, you've swam in much worse water and enjoyed it much more.

Yeah no kidding! I don't pee in the pool but just the same there's far worse in open water!

Great point, I've had the same thought.

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"Anyone can be who they want to be IF they have the HUNGER and the DRIVE."

Yeah, you're right. I've swam 2.4 miles in the Ohio River. Twice.

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Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.

Never really thought too much about this before but at the regular masters swim set I attend where we swim for around an hour I have not once seen anyone leave the pool to pee. I'm sure there must have been one or two that slipped out while I wasn't looking but it's certainly not common. So with all of those hundreds of cummulative hours assuming around 20-25 people per sessions x ~300 session a year in total (I only attend very few I'll point out) that about 6,000 potential peeing hours and very very few people ever get out.....me thinks there must be a lot of peeing going on in that pool! So far I haven't contracted asthma or anything else for that matter, just a matter of time though I guess.

All those people laking morals.

I define morals the same way the dictionary does (see definition below). Thus I see public urination as an immoral activity. The one person here said they hope I don't break my hip falling from my high horse. I find that interesting. Apparently to that person, not peeing in public is a VERY high moral. I see it differently. It's not that big of a stretch, for me, to get out of the pool and hit the restroom. It's clear that to some of you that is a very big deal and are making a conscious decision to: be lazy, be immature, and be disrespectful to other swimmers. Again, you will use whatever means you have to in order to justify your actions. So be it. All you're really doing is justifying your laziness, immaturity and disrespectful behavior (imo).

Just because other people pee in the people doesn't mean I have to reduce myself to their level and do it as well. I try not to conform to the lowest common denominator.

Definition of MORAL
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a : of or relating to principles of right and wrong in behavior :ethical <moral judgments>

b : expressing or teaching a conception of right behavior <amoral poem>

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You've yet to convince me that there's anything wrong with something that (1) is not against any rule*, (2) doesn't impact anyone negatively, (3) nobody is ever likely to know about, and (4) is generally considered acceptable behavior among competitive/serious swimmers.

*It's not mentioned in the posted pool rules at the club where I swim. (Showering before entering the pool is.)

Can't believe this post is still alive. I shared it with my wife last night and she says to me "so?.... doesn't everyone?" LOL Then goes to say "is this a joke? Someone is actually that ignorant to think that this is not normal..... It's sterile- you could drink the shit straight with zero ill affect" LOL again. I Love my wife.....

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The people who are against peeing in the pool make me want to pee in the pool even more just to spite them.

We really need a "like" button on ST.

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It's pretty sad that you need a posted rule not to pee in a public rule. I'd be worried about what else you do when there are no posted rules. Like I said before, just because a lot of people do it, doesn't mean I'm going to lower myself to their standards. No amount of justification you do will change the fact that I see those that pee in the pool as lazy, immature and disrespectful. We are all raised by different set of morals and values.

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And for the person who sent me the nice PM filled with hate, you pretty much just justified everything I said. Defending your need to pee in a pool to the point you PM somebody to tell them off. That says a lot about the type of person you are. Congrats.

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A hate filled PM is uncalled for, taking your word for what was in it, but so is your description above. Just as disturbing.

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Then I'll be lazy and immature and disrespectful like Phelps and Lochte and every other olympic swimmer thats ever lived, you're simply not making a case as to why the water should somehow be lab quality pure H2O, I bet the air you breathe has more contaminants and harmful biological agents than a pool after mommy and me class. By your logic, you shouldn't be driving a car, given we know it causes pollution and bad air quality yet you do it anyway, isn't that lazy, immature and disrespectful?

I have to side with TriGirl here - seriously you equate peeing in the pool with unethical immoral behaviour. - that is quite the high horse you live on.

No, I don't pee in the pool but it is sterile and I don't give a rat's hiney if someone does. Now next summer I have to swim in the Hudson for NYC Tri - THAT scares me.

I have the hardest time peeing in the pool.. I have to be out of the water to pee. I tried before but it wont go... I remember snorkeling once, I had to pee so bad but it wouldnt go. I had to stand up and take off my shorts to try to pee, and it almost went out but the wave knocked me over and then I couldn't pee again...

How do you do it?

Tell you what, the day you swim in the olympics I'll understand why you pee in the pool.

I find it easy to label it immoral since I was raised to see the difference between right and wrong. I see peeing in the pool as wrong. Plus with it so easy to hit the restroom, I find one's that won't use the rest room as lazy. It appears you are proud to be lazy, immature and disrespectful. Your justification is that the 'pro's' do it. LOL. Society needs people like you....you make the rest of us look good. :)

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I was going to cut and paste the PM, but why feed a troll. I grew up with a pool. My parents raised me to actually pee in the bathroom and not in the pool. Thus I was raised that peeing in the pool is immoral (see definition of morals). Part of my issue is also the thought of actually peeing on myself. The only time I've peed in a wetsuit was at 250+ feet scuba diving. Most tri's have porta potties at the swim entrance or near T-area. I find using those rest rooms beats peeing on myself. I don't really care that it is sterile. Using that as justification, please let me pee in your next drink.

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