Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled?

Aug 5, 21 10:51

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I had a member of my facility just push their trip to Kauai up a month as they were booking trips while on the island and they were getting word that they were expecting to lockdown again soon.

We are 2 months out of Kona, cases are rising and Kona is on an island that really cannot afford to have another outbreak.

Where are we at with Ironman putting on this race this year?

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Re: Kona cancelled [907Tri] [ In reply to ]

Aug 5, 21 10:55

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Nice click bait!

Re: Kona cancelled [907Tri] [ In reply to ]

Aug 5, 21 11:12

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Kona cancelled?? That title is misleading at best . . . I'd say dishonest the way it is worded.

EDIT - Thank you for changing the subject.

Now, since it is not cancelled, I can tell you (with some inside scoop - see disclaimer) that they will do everything possible to make the race happen. The odds are extremely high the race will go.

PS - I still think I was wise deferring to 2022.

David
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Re: Kona cancelled [907Tri] [ In reply to ]

Aug 5, 21 11:19

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907Tri wrote:

I had a member of my facility just push their trip to Kauai up a month as they were booking trips while on the island and they were getting word that they were expecting to lockdown again soon.
. . . cases are rising and Kona is on an island that really cannot afford to have another outbreak./quote]
Of what facility are you a member? (Sorry - English is my first language.)
If cases are rising, should the member not cancel their trips rather than bringing them forward (I assume that's what you mean by 'up')?

Re: Kona cancelled [907Tri] [ In reply to ]

Aug 5, 21 11:55

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Please change the title of this thread to something like "Will Kona be cancelled due to rising COVID cases?"

Anything else is just stirring a pot that doesn't need to be stirred.

Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [907Tri] [ In reply to ]

Aug 5, 21 13:15

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Even if it was the right thing to do with cases increasing, I can't see an appetite amongst the general public to lockdown again. I feel like the most that will happen is you might have to present a vaccine card to participate.

Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [jhammond] [ In reply to ]

Aug 5, 21 15:08

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jhammond wrote:

Even if it was the right thing to do with cases increasing, I can't see an appetite amongst the general public to lockdown again. I feel like the most that will happen is you might have to present a vaccine card to participate.

If Ironman goes to a vaccine card to participate, they would never get a dime from me or a million others again.

50 and getting back to racing.

Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [907Tri] [ In reply to ]

Aug 5, 21 15:31

Post #8 of 160 (12404 views)

More important…maybe ask GMan if this race should be held or not?

Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [soretaint] [ In reply to ]

Aug 5, 21 15:33

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soretaint wrote:

jhammond wrote:

Even if it was the right thing to do with cases increasing, I can't see an appetite amongst the general public to lockdown again. I feel like the most that will happen is you might have to present a vaccine card to participate.

If Ironman goes to a vaccine card to participate, they would never get a dime from me or a million others again.

Really? Afraid of needles?

Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [soretaint] [ In reply to ]

Aug 5, 21 15:33

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soretaint wrote:

jhammond wrote:

Even if it was the right thing to do with cases increasing, I can't see an appetite amongst the general public to lockdown again. I feel like the most that will happen is you might have to present a vaccine card to participate.

If Ironman goes to a vaccine card to participate, they would never get a dime from me or a million others again.

Lol, yeah you would. It might take a little while to gain their consumers back, but they hold a virtual monopoly on IM/HIM and the last thing Ironman wants is some study linking hundreds of COVID cases directly back to their event, that likely would cost them more in the long run then a few temper tantrums regarding a vaccine card.

Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [soretaint] [ In reply to ]

Aug 5, 21 15:45

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soretaint wrote:

If Ironman goes to a vaccine card to participate, they would never get a dime from me or a million others again.

What a courageous stance.

Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [soretaint] [ In reply to ]

Aug 5, 21 15:55

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soretaint wrote:

jhammond wrote:

Even if it was the right thing to do with cases increasing, I can't see an appetite amongst the general public to lockdown again. I feel like the most that will happen is you might have to present a vaccine card to participate.

If Ironman goes to a vaccine card to participate, they would never get a dime from me or a million others again.

A million? At least you are very realistic and don't exgarate at all. Or is this a talking point number from Fox ir OAN?

Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [soretaint] [ In reply to ]

Aug 5, 21 16:02

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soretaint wrote:

jhammond wrote:

Even if it was the right thing to do with cases increasing, I can't see an appetite amongst the general public to lockdown again. I feel like the most that will happen is you might have to present a vaccine card to participate.

If Ironman goes to a vaccine card to participate, they would never get a dime from me or a million others again.

assuming you think it's ok to run redlights, stopsigns and drive drunk. Damn be everyone else!

seems Lake Placid had no problem attracting people with this requirement

Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [jhammond] [ In reply to ]

Aug 5, 21 16:03

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jhammond wrote:

soretaint wrote:

jhammond wrote:

Even if it was the right thing to do with cases increasing, I can't see an appetite amongst the general public to lockdown again. I feel like the most that will happen is you might have to present a vaccine card to participate.

If Ironman goes to a vaccine card to participate, they would never get a dime from me or a million others again.

Lol, yeah you would. It might take a little while to gain their consumers back, but they hold a virtual monopoly on IM/HIM and the last thing Ironman wants is some study linking hundreds of COVID cases directly back to their event, that likely would cost them more in the long run then a few temper tantrums regarding a vaccine card.

IM clients tend to be more educated than the average... in my part of the world, there is a strong correlation between education, income and vaccination.

Thus willing to bet that they will gain more client that hey will loose by requiring vaccination (have you see what an aid station look like)... actually a no brainer.

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Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [soretaint] [ In reply to ]

Aug 5, 21 16:07

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Quote:

If Ironman goes to a vaccine card to participate, they would never get a dime from me or a million others again.

Oh Boo! So they sell out in 6 hours instead of 4?

Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [SayHey Kid] [ In reply to ]

Aug 5, 21 16:26

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SayHey Kid wrote:

soretaint wrote:

jhammond wrote:

Even if it was the right thing to do with cases increasing, I can't see an appetite amongst the general public to lockdown again. I feel like the most that will happen is you might have to present a vaccine card to participate.

If Ironman goes to a vaccine card to participate, they would never get a dime from me or a million others again.

A million? At least you are very realistic and don't exgarate at all. Or is this a talking point number from Fox ir OAN?

LOL, that was my reaction..... Talk about hyperbole.

in reality as with a LOT of things, once people realize they need to be vaxxed to do fun stuff, they will be

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Aug 5, 21 16:28

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Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [soretaint] [ In reply to ]

Aug 5, 21 23:44

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soretaint wrote:

jhammond wrote:

Even if it was the right thing to do with cases increasing, I can't see an appetite amongst the general public to lockdown again. I feel like the most that will happen is you might have to present a vaccine card to participate.

If Ironman goes to a vaccine card to participate, they would never get a dime from me or a million others again.

You sound like one of those people that said they would leave the USA if trump got elected and then didn’t.

Rhymenocerus wrote:

I think everyone should consult ST before they do anything.

Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [soretaint] [ In reply to ]

Aug 6, 21 0:41

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soretaint wrote:

jhammond wrote:

Even if it was the right thing to do with cases increasing, I can't see an appetite amongst the general public to lockdown again. I feel like the most that will happen is you might have to present a vaccine card to participate.

If Ironman goes to a vaccine card to participate, they would never get a dime from me or a million others again.

Darwinism 101? Why take a vaccine that has a very very very remote chance of having any adverse side effects and can protect yourself and others when you can avoid it and increase you chance of catching a virus that has a very very very high chance of severely effing you and your loved ones up...

Brilliant...

Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [NickMa] [ In reply to ]

Aug 6, 21 1:00

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NickMa wrote:

Well, it can be true considering that 1) foreign vaccines aren't recognized by US

That's interesting - "foreign vaccines aren't recognized by US" is an oversimplification, but indeed, I didn't realize the AstraZeneca shot wasn't FDA-approved (I checked and you're right, it's not). The other three "big ones" (Pfizer, Moderna, J&J) do have emergency authorization, but they're "American" vaccines in terms of the companies being American (notwithstanding the fact that the Moderna shot I received was produced in Belgium).

Astra is common enough in Europe to cause problems if vaccination with an FDA-approved vaccine is required. The company recently said it would apply for regular approval (not emergency) by the FDA, which I assume will take a while.

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Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [NickMa] [ In reply to ]

Aug 6, 21 2:04

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NickMa wrote:

Well, it can be true considering that 1) foreign vaccines aren't recognized by US , and 2) vaccinated will be going back to 'unvaccinated' pretty soon (masks mandates among vaccinated/ CDC 'boosters' talks, evidence that cases & hospitalizations are up even among vaccinated).

Negative covid test seems sufficient.

(I'm vaccinated)

I think there are individual country specific issues, for example J&J not being approved in Canada. Hopefully there will eventually be reciprocal recognition etc.

Maurice

Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [soretaint] [ In reply to ]

Aug 6, 21 3:04

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soretaint wrote:

jhammond wrote:

Even if it was the right thing to do with cases increasing, I can't see an appetite amongst the general public to lockdown again. I feel like the most that will happen is you might have to present a vaccine card to participate.

If Ironman goes to a vaccine card to participate, they would never get a dime from me or a million others again.

18 posts since 2008 and you bring this one out. Strong work….

Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [soretaint] [ In reply to ]

Aug 6, 21 3:12

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soretaint wrote:

jhammond wrote:

Even if it was the right thing to do with cases increasing, I can't see an appetite amongst the general public to lockdown again. I feel like the most that will happen is you might have to present a vaccine card to participate.

If Ironman goes to a vaccine card to participate, they would never get a dime from me or a million others again.

Nice!! Passports are becoming an increasingly efficient and simple method for organizations to weed out the crazies from their ranks.
Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out:)

Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [soretaint] [ In reply to ]

Aug 6, 21 3:24

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soretaint wrote:

jhammond wrote:

Even if it was the right thing to do with cases increasing, I can't see an appetite amongst the general public to lockdown again. I feel like the most that will happen is you might have to present a vaccine card to participate.

If Ironman goes to a vaccine card to participate, they would never get a dime from me or a million others again.

you're possibly going to save a lot of money also on flights, gyms, pools, restaurants, etc.

Re: Is there an increased chance Kona may be canceled? [PJC] [ In reply to ]

Aug 6, 21 4:21

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PJC wrote:

soretaint wrote:

jhammond wrote:

Even if it was the right thing to do with cases increasing, I can't see an appetite amongst the general public to lockdown again. I feel like the most that will happen is you might have to present a vaccine card to participate.

If Ironman goes to a vaccine card to participate, they would never get a dime from me or a million others again.

You sound like one of those people that said they would leave the USA if trump got elected and then didn’t.

We can probably figure out who he voted for by his post. So not sure using Trump as an example was appropriate. 😁

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