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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I was "accosted" by Iron Cowboy supporters today at the mouth of a canyon popular with cyclists and runners. They were handing out flyers and trying to get people to go to the "free event" to celebrate the IC. By the way they were playing up his 43rd "Ironman", I don't see them reminding people that elipticals, treadmills, bike trainers, etc. were used.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [Arch Stanton] [ In reply to ]
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Arch Stanton wrote:
I was "accosted" by Iron Cowboy supporters today at the mouth of a canyon popular with cyclists and runners. They were handing out flyers and trying to get people to go to the "free event" to celebrate the IC. By the way they were playing up his 43rd "Ironman", I don't see them reminding people that elipticals, treadmills, bike trainers, etc. were used.

It's like a company where the marketing department starts pushing the limits outside claimable reality and the product lines/executives have to reign them in to not misrepresent. In this case if the supporters are misrepresenting things, the CEO of the shop can choose to ask them to represent the reality but he clearly is not. As I said, I respect the athleticism, but not the attention to detail on multiple other fronts.

Oh well, there is a race going on in France that ends on the same day. At least everyone who finishes that one will have done the distance, but we don't know what other outside assistance is going on over in France too. So maybe let's just enjoy the show at this point, be it the TdF or the xyx/50/50 IC mega endurance grind.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [stephenj] [ In reply to ]
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stephenj wrote:
kathy_caribe wrote:


seriously? i'm calling bullshit. i can walk into a GROCERY store and buy a bag of IV solution here. what hell hole 3rd world country do you live in?


Kathy,
You DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. Sorry for raising my voice, but I wanted to make sure that you heard. Go ahead and try to buy some. Go ahead and do it. You will have a VERY difficult time. I develop technology which is used for next generation molecular diagnostics, and I can tell you that when I was trying to find IV bags for a certain west african outbreak just a couple months ago, I found out it was exceedingly difficult due to a shortage. Im sorry, but you are incorrect on this point.

Stephen J

i already bought some. 3 L in fact. Chedraui, Puerto Adventuras. one of the smallest Chedrauis around as it is in a very small town.

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kathy_caribe] [ In reply to ]
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Just curious... why do you buy iv bags otc anyway? You administer iv's to yourself at home?

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [RowToTri] [ In reply to ]
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because i'm coming to the USA and youse guys have a shortage apparently.

http://harvestmoon6.blogspot.com
https://www.caringbridge.org/visit/katasmit


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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [Arch Stanton] [ In reply to ]
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Arch Stanton wrote:
I was "accosted" by Iron Cowboy supporters today at the mouth of a canyon popular with cyclists and runners. They were handing out flyers and trying to get people to go to the "free event" to celebrate the IC. By the way they were playing up his 43rd "Ironman", I don't see them reminding people that elipticals, treadmills, bike trainers, etc. were used.

No me outside of ST gives a shit about an elliptical or a draft pack or treadmill. It is only frustrated internet posters that care. People here need to realize they aren't always the most important in the world.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kman74] [ In reply to ]
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I don't want to sound completely naive - but wasn't he just using an IV for fluid & electrolyte replenishment - and if so wouldn't have just been a simple saline or sodium chloride IV? Something you can buy here for $15 a bag?
http://www.dmesupplygroup.com/13242801.html

What kind of shortage are you talking about when I can order this thing off the internet and get it within a couple days?
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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devashish_paul wrote:
[the xyx/50/50 IC mega endurance grind

Love it!
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [cidewar] [ In reply to ]
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cidewar wrote:
I don't want to sound completely naive - but wasn't he just using an IV for fluid & electrolyte replenishment - and if so wouldn't have just been a simple saline or sodium chloride IV? Something you can buy here for $15 a bag?
http://www.dmesupplygroup.com/13242801.html

What kind of shortage are you talking about when I can order this thing off the internet and get it within a couple days?
Not really sure how you didn't see the replies after mine discussing this point where a clinical researcher responded saying that he couldn't get IV's either or the response where someone else called bs then did some digging and edited their post and said that yes there is a national shortage. its not the solution that is in shortage, it is the bags. Haven't had time to go through your link as its 5am where I am.

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [cidewar] [ In reply to ]
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cidewar wrote:
I don't want to sound completely naive - but wasn't he just using an IV for fluid & electrolyte replenishment - and if so wouldn't have just been a simple saline or sodium chloride IV? Something you can buy here for $15 a bag?
http://www.dmesupplygroup.com/13242801.html

What kind of shortage are you talking about when I can order this thing off the internet and get it within a couple days?

No you can not...at least 4 months ago you could not. These are medical devices, and regulated in the USA. When you start dealing with buying from overseas, you run into some purchasing difficulties. You can pay for a whole bunch, but I know firsthand that you can not get them in your lab in that kind of timeframe.

Stephen J

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kathy_caribe] [ In reply to ]
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kathy_caribe wrote:
because i'm coming to the USA and youse guys have a shortage apparently.


So you have them in your possession, and did not have a medical need for them? If this is the case, then can I contact you the next time we are in a pinch for some IV bags in the lab? In addition, I would also owe you an apology; as I could not get anyone to sell me even a single IV bag on a very short timeframe just 4 months ago here in the US. We had to make due with large volume syringes or many many vacutainers.

Stephen J

I believe my local reality has been violated.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [cidewar] [ In reply to ]
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ITT: people who cannot google, jeez

Everyone is all like "hmm I don't believe there's a shortage", ever heard of a thing called the internet where you can look up news like that:

http://www.ashp.org/...Bulletin.aspx?id=993

http://fortune.com/...-shortage-of-saline/

http://www.fda.gov/...Safety/ucm382255.htm
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [stephenj] [ In reply to ]
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stephenj wrote:

Im afraid that you do not know what you are talking about. The shortage is with the IV bags; not the contents.

Stephen J

You should have let the authors of the above bulletins/articles know.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [davearm] [ In reply to ]
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davearm wrote:
stephenj wrote:


Im afraid that you do not know what you are talking about. The shortage is with the IV bags; not the contents.

Stephen J


You should have let the authors of the above bulletins/articles know.

They already do know about it; and they would know why if they just picked up the phone and called the manufacturers. It is pretty easy to find information, and sometimes it is even correct!

Stephen J

I believe my local reality has been violated.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [stephenj] [ In reply to ]
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stephenj wrote:
aravilare wrote:

Yes, they should clearly listen to your rants. How do you even know they're using saline solution?


Im afraid that you do not know what you are talking about. The shortage is with the IV bags; not the contents.

Stephen J


http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/ucm382255.htm


Good work, bro.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [mcnnr27] [ In reply to ]
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mcnnr27 wrote:
ITT: people who cannot google, jeez


Everyone is all like "hmm I don't believe there's a shortage", ever heard of a thing called the internet where you can look up news like that:

http://www.ashp.org/...Bulletin.aspx?id=993

http://fortune.com/...-shortage-of-saline/

http://www.fda.gov/...Safety/ucm382255.htm


. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YozC8yFrZKI
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [cidewar] [ In reply to ]
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cidewar wrote:
I don't want to sound completely naive - but wasn't he just using an IV for fluid & electrolyte replenishment - and if so wouldn't have just been a simple saline or sodium chloride IV? Something you can buy here for $15 a bag?
http://www.dmesupplygroup.com/13242801.html

What kind of shortage are you talking about when I can order this thing off the internet and get it within a couple days?

So I know you think you can have them in a couple
Of days and it seems pretty easy. You should have dug a little further. You cannot purchase these unless you have a prescription and have a licensed person administering them or you must be a doctor to purchase. You cannot buy IVs off the internet. Period.if a doctor bought these for him then that only proves my point about the unethical nature in which they were obtained and used. People in hospitals who legitimately need them for patients can't get them fast enough but they are being used by guys who are goofing off. Good stuff

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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [kman74] [ In reply to ]
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I had no idea that the IC was expected to research, understand, and resolve the world's IV bag problems as part of his pursuit. If a bird has a shat on his bike will he also be expected to figure out how to solve avian bird flu?

This thread has, sadly, descended into the unreasonable and pointless, sounding like a bunch of old curmudgeons sitting around griping at the nursery home because somebody from a different generation has done something they didn't think possible and they don't like the way it was done.



kman74 wrote:
cidewar wrote:
I don't want to sound completely naive - but wasn't he just using an IV for fluid & electrolyte replenishment - and if so wouldn't have just been a simple saline or sodium chloride IV? Something you can buy here for $15 a bag?
http://www.dmesupplygroup.com/13242801.html

What kind of shortage are you talking about when I can order this thing off the internet and get it within a couple days?


So I know you think you can have them in a couple
Of days and it seems pretty easy. You should have dug a little further. You cannot purchase these unless you have a prescription and have a licensed person administering them or you must be a doctor to purchase. You cannot buy IVs off the internet. Period.if a doctor bought these for him then that only proves my point about the unethical nature in which they were obtained and used. People in hospitals who legitimately need them for patients can't get them fast enough but they are being used by guys who are goofing off. Good stuff
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [MidwestRoadie] [ In reply to ]
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Can we get back to discussing how this is a charity scam? Much more interesting...
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [Arch Stanton] [ In reply to ]
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Arch Stanton wrote:
I was "accosted" by Iron Cowboy supporters today at the mouth of a canyon popular with cyclists and runners. They were handing out flyers and trying to get people to go to the "free event" to celebrate the IC. By the way they were playing up his 43rd "Ironman", I don't see them reminding people that elipticals, treadmills, bike trainers, etc. were used.

Oh the horror. I hope you reported them as potential communists or even terrorists.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [Hanktri] [ In reply to ]
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Hanktri wrote:
Can we get back to discussing how this is a charity scam? Much more interesting...

Well now all donations on his website to directly to Jamie Oliver Foundation

I can't speak for the ones he takes in person though.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [TylerJ] [ In reply to ]
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Pink - but how do you know that is not An elaborate fake web page .. I mean did you see the Facebook picture of IC being paced by his kids on their bikes while he was running. .. Clearly this guy has no regard for the rules and should be taken down
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [Hanktri] [ In reply to ]
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I am outraged. He has clearly made it his mission to personally insult every individual WTC Ironman finisher, cutting corners on a HITS course to cruelly knock another age grouper from 36th place to 37th. And he's exercising too much, giving the chubby kids unrealistic expectations of health. He should be drawn and quartered. I'll be putting together an IC voodoo doll to exact my revenge tonight.


Hanktri wrote:
Pink - but how do you know that is not An elaborate fake web page .. I mean did you see the Facebook picture of IC being paced by his kids on their bikes while he was running. .. Clearly this guy has no regard for the rules and should be taken down
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [Arch Stanton] [ In reply to ]
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You should report them for harassment. Clearly you were personally targeted.


Arch Stanton wrote:
I was "accosted" by Iron Cowboy supporters today at the mouth of a canyon popular with cyclists and runners. They were handing out flyers and trying to get people to go to the "free event" to celebrate the IC. By the way they were playing up his 43rd "Ironman", I don't see them reminding people that elipticals, treadmills, bike trainers, etc. were used.
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Re: IRONCowboy 50 Ironmans in 50 Consecutive Days Starting June 6, 2015 - Prediction Thread [Hanktri] [ In reply to ]
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Hanktri wrote:
Pink - but how do you know that is not An elaborate fake web page .. I mean did you see the Facebook picture of IC being paced by his kids on their bikes while he was running. .. Clearly this guy has no regard for the rules and should be taken down

At least his kids had bike helmets on, or someone from the ST Mafia would have called Child Services on him and had him arrested
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