This not aging particularly well? just caught the front.

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"FTP is a bit 2015, don't you think?" - Gustav Iden

Can I just say that it really annoys me when I see people race like Godoy? I get it that it’s the best strategy for her, but it’s incredibly annoying.

I mean, I didn’t say she was going to lose, only that she made a huge effort on the bike and lost half of that gap putting on her shoes.

Kz and grpup of 3 who now may be giving time penalty for going longer way around transition.

Wow just wow

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Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II

That fucking run is gaining time in front 4 now. Holy smokes

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Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II

Someone seems to be closing on the front group of 4.....

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That was some good racing. I’m glad I woke up for it.

KZ 1
GJ 3
GS 6

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Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II

Protests now against KZ and 2nd, which likely means GJ wins by their rules.

The big issue is DQ would mean 0 points for Kz.

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Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II

https://www.triathlonlive.tv/...c-vina-del-mar-women

Gwen asking for a review. Looks like leaders ran through the finish line on the first lap. She’s probably asking for KZ to be DQ’ed.

Every World Tri course should be like this. Just put all the races in Karlovy Vary, Vina del Mar, etc.

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"FTP is a bit 2015, don't you think?" - Gustav Iden

Yikes!!!

It would be horrible if the protest was accepted. Bad for triathlon, bad for the top two, bad for Gwen's image - certainly in my eyes. I get that she's hustled to race in the Paris Olympics and made unimaginable sacrifices, but if you lose a race to athletes who were superior on the day and then manage to overturn the result on a technicality like this, I hope that if you qualify for Paris, you'll come last.

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"FTP is a bit 2015, don't you think?" - Gustav Iden

I thought all the drama was over when KZ finished the race. That was super exciting. But more excitement to come with the judges ruling!

I think they will rule because it’s a longer route and because the camera bike rode that way that all will be forgiven. (Even though athletes have to “know the course” )

A few years back Luis rode through transition (and crashed) into barrier, then went backwards through transition to get to his rack and wasn’t given a penalty. They don’t *always* have to penalize.

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Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II

Yeah, imo this is a bad look for Gwen. Doesn’t seem like they cut the course, and maybe they ran a bit more because of this mistake.

I wonder what the atmosphere within USAT is going to be after this, especially if she wins the protest and gets KZ DQ’ed.

They just can’t have courses that are confusing for the athletes. They’re completely on the limit and shouldn’t be expected to be navigating. I was rooting for Gwen to catch KZ but not like this. Getting 0 points based on poor course design would be terrible

Is it normal for these protests to take this long?

Edit: men are about to start without a women podium defined.

Yes this is normal likely due to the number of athletes who protested and who is affected by the DQ. (4 potential DQ athletes so likely a bunch have filed protest to improve spots, likely GS as well….or she should have)

This move by GJ would have been done by anyone in her spot knowing the front group went the wrong way.

At the end of the day this isn’t about looking good or bad. This is 100% a points race. Protest is 100% the correct call and 100 out of 100 athletes would have protested this in her shoes.

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Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II

Thank you for stating this. I was about to chime in on a similar tangent. Everyone is jumping to some conclusion that GJ pulled some sort of jerk move protest. ANYONE and any federation in the top 10 besides the top 2 would benefit from a protest and could have initiated the protest. All of these girls needs points, money, federation nods, etc. Going from 5th to 3rd may really help someone. Incredibly interesting everyone is so mad at GJ. I get, no one wants to "lose" on something like this, but no one wants to lose a World Cup soccer game on a PK either, yet it is a rule and happens all of the time. It is part of the sport.

But I digress. Backing you to say this protest could have come from any number or multiple federations. It is in the interest of all of the other athletes to move up 2 spots.

Yeah, I get it. It’s just “odd” to protest your own countrywoman. But if it’s normal then I guess KZ will be OK with it.

By "PK" do you mean penalty contest? If my guess is right, you can't possibly be serious comparing the two... a penalty contest would be more of a photo finish. Not a slower athlete being handed "victory" over a faster athlete because the faster athlete was led off course by the lead moto.



How you're framing this is probably correct but it reminds of what is wrong with this World Triathlon business. Sport, to me, is not about random unrelated events distorting the result of competition. If something goes against the concept of fairness as most would understand it, and gives an athlete (Gwen) a bad look, but athletes don't care, because the fans or the sponsors that listen to the fans are not the ones paying them, then this whole setup is broken. Athletes should have to care. This shouldn't be normal.

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"FTP is a bit 2015, don't you think?" - Gustav Iden

My point was, where did everyone come to the conclusion that GJ pulled the protest? She might have, so so might have 10 other women/federations behind her that would benefit.

They said it live on the stream: “Gwen Jorgensen has protested”.