Super glad to have you actively participating on these boards Jim! You really bring a ton of valuable information to discussions!

What Cat are you in?

I'm a lowly Cat 5. I once emailed them about some equipment questions like wheels and bikes for lower level folks (does it have to have the UCI sticker, for example).

The short answer was that unless you've bought a modern tri-specific model with the obvious fairings, bento box fairings, seat storage fairings...... you're good.

Same on the "uci approved wheels". You're good with ebay wheels as long as you're not trying to run discs in a road race or something.

I got the impression from the answer that the scrutiny increases the higher you go.

In other words, don't show up on a P5X or Ventum, and you likely will be fine.

He's provided plenty of valuable information. Maybe not in that single reply, but one does tend to get tired of typing the same thing over and over, only to have it ignored. You, on the other hand, are mainly a source of misinformation.

I bet he has done a lot of testing to arrive at that position...

He's provided plenty of valuable information. Maybe not in that single reply, but one does tend to get tired of typing the same thing over and over, only to have it ignored. You, on the other hand, are mainly a source of misinformation.

I'm probably a little prickly because this is the first time in 3 years one of my fit clients didn't win a Rainbow Jersey in any of the categories. Clearly, I'm all washed up now. I guess I still have a shot in the road races, but those are less satisfying personally. :-)

But, yeah, after awhile you get tired of seeing the same ol' crap spewed over and over again on these forums by people who really don't have enough information at their disposal to offer any sort of constructive observations, or any historical knowledge of these athletes. I can only slap my forehead so many times before I develop a hematoma.

Ahh... you're right again... sorry for all the misinformation... the key to getting more aerodynamic must be to do the opposite of what I said. So--according to you--a good place to start might be for him to scoot his seat back and sit higher up. That way, he'd look even less like other top time trialists.

Longer cranks provide the opportunity for more leverage = more power.

Don't give up yet! Maybe try one more solid shot for the sake of all the ignorant plebs on this thread who haven't been graced by your boundless wisdom quite yet?

Most stuff online says she had a 10 mile TT of around 5.5w/kg output. She weighs about 105 lbs. So, let's call it 48 kg. 48 * 5.5 = 264 watts.

Even at 50 kg, that's 300 watts.

26th in Mens race, former dual Olympic rowing gold medalist Hamish Bond: "438W for 30km to the bottom of climb 456W up the climb 433NP for the race @ 81kg "(5.3W/kg NP)

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You might as well give up, Jim is not going to take your bait.

Longer cranks provide the opportunity for more leverage = more power. My view on the shorter cranks phenomenon that has been embraced by our sport over the last 10 or so years is that it will die a quick death like Vibram footwear, racing in compression sleeves, extremely low positions on the bike, ceramic bearings ....... So much of what makes the Tri world an opportunity to make money off of people reaching for easy speed will be found out. The dude is the best TT-er in the world. Why not ask why he's the fastest ? Cheers from NZ, Scott

If RPM is equal how can more torque NOT equal more power?

. I'm sure the world TT champion in men's can probably do 420's to 440 watts in a 10 miler or less.
That's a good reason to add some priority to power output.
Given the ladies are at that power level, I'd think the aero versus power output style to lean more towards the aero side of things.

That's a real shame. Here's hoping that someone can "bait" him into doing something other than sneering and bragging in a future thread.

If RPM is equal how can more torque NOT equal more power?

Now I don't particularly know who either of you are, but are you seriously surprised and upset that someone said you're full of crap for critiquing the aerodynamics of ANY TTer from a high budget WT team, let alone the world champion based on eyeballing some photos/footage? I don't even need to know cda stands for to think that's pretty silly. If that was enough to find a good position I'm sure everyone would save a hell of a lot of money and time in wind tunnels and tracks and just throw it out there to internet for feedback. I'm sure bike manufacturers would also all have equally quick frames infinite savings.

I've got no problems with people trying to work out why it's working for him, but obviously the testing has been done, and he tests fast. Trying to say everyone else is wrong is folly.

Hmm... I don't necessarily think that just because he had a dominant ride that there's no way that he couldn't have been even faster in another scenario, or that winning a world championship means he exercised INFALLIBLE judgement with his setup, but even if he did, speculating on position changes tends to be fun and interesting, so...

If he was a person who posted pictures of himself on slowtwitch and asked for help in eeking out another aero gain, I'd probably tell him to try to scoot his seat forward a little bit and then pull out a spacer or two to get a little bit lower. That certainly seems like it would make his position look a little bit more like Dumoulin's and Martin's old position (at his peak). If he asked you for hints on what you thought could get him a bit more aero, what would you tell him? I imagine that with all the data you've collected you have much better instincts and insights than I do.

It's pretty easy.... stop posting

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