You know honestly maybe the only reason they are bad is that we will all have to buy new wheels.

Why remove the headphone jack of the iPhone 7?

This is why I won't be getting a disc equipped bike any time soon. I've got no issue with them (though I don't think they're necessary) but I'm not willing to render thousands of dollars worth of great equipment useless so I can participate in the latest trend. If I were new to the sport and didn't have "legacy" gear, sure I'd get a disc bike.

The move to 11 speed was a tough enough pill to swallow. I get the impression that the industry believes that consumers have bottomless budgets and are happy to repeatedly chuck previous investments.

The unintended (?) consequences of some of these changes can be comical. Sure a thru-axle on my road bike will be great... until I try to put it on my perfectly good trainer. I guess I'll happily drop a mint on a new one of those too.

Couple of reasons. The braking is better and cleaner, easier to get to and work on than aero brakes. Second, wheels can be made that don't contemplate rim braking, and are a thematic match with the fork.

Which I wrote last year! And the year before! And you guys told me I was smoking weed. The old dog can still hunt.

As I said before on here, if disc brake bikes are faster, I want to be on that.

Because everyone buying a new bike has to buy new race wheels.

Every single guy that races on new bikes with aero wheels has to buy new race wheels. I mean seriously...could it be entirely about a money grab?

Couple of reasons. The braking is better and cleaner, easier to get to and work on than aero brakes. Second, wheels can be made that don't contemplate rim braking, and are a thematic match with the fork.

Which I wrote last year! And the year before! And you guys told me I was smoking weed. The old dog can still hunt.

Aside from, yes, being a money grab, what is the incentive for companies to switch to discs? I really don't buy the safer braking bit, no one here is having trouble slowing down.

wheels can be made that don't contemplate rim braking, and are a thematic match with the fork.

BryanD wrote:

To fix carbon clincher braking issues? I don't know....things change in any market.

Why remove the headphone jack of the iPhone 7?

Sounds like another subtle hint on what HED might be bringing to market.

OK, so then why bother changing?

Couple of reasons. The braking is better and cleaner, easier to get to and work on than aero brakes. Second, wheels can be made that don't contemplate rim braking, and are a thematic match with the fork.

Which I wrote last year! And the year before! And you guys told me I was smoking weed. The old dog can still hunt.

If braking gets more "technical" and "faster" the braking points are later, like with F1 cars. For faster speeds better brakes are in needs ..

.. with any advanced brake system this is possible, it does not have be a disc!