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Re: Unsurprisingly - IMWI Cancelled [SallyShortyPnts] [ In reply to ]
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Interesting that all these races are still allowing transfers into St. George on September 19th. Makes you wonder if they have reason to believe that race will actually happen.


Not that this is the deciding factor but Utah is by far the most red state with an IM. St.George has a ton of events still scheduled for the fall and from my understanding have had some recently.


As a resident of ruby-red Utah, I follow the events in St George closely. I am also entered in IMSG. As of yesterday, the school bus drivers responsible for transporting athletes have refused to work. The only hospital in town, Dixie Regional, has 24 beds and 15 were already full of COVID patients.

While the RD and Ironman may want to see the race go forward, there are several weak links in the chain outside thier control, most notably ensuring health and safety in the event of a bike crash or heat-related event (very highly likely as the temperature could easily still be in the 90's).

Maybe they can get aid station volunteers and maybe they can hire outside drivers willing to do the work, but every essential worker in the healthcare field is already taken, so doctors and nurses won't materialize out of nowhere to help. And while the state is red, it's still home to Mitt Romney, the only Republican to stand up to Trump. The Mormon church is currently led by a retired Cardiologist who still has a prohibition against church services being held because of the inherent danger of COVID spread.


This is totally misinformed. The city of St. George actually just met with Ironman and the direction is that as long as the status of Washington County stays yellow or better the race, and a whole bunch of other events (i.e. huge softball tournaments) the race will go on. Gov. Herbert has only identified the city of Salt Lake as Orange. It would take a lot to turn St. George to Orange status. The whole ICU situation is a complete exaggeration, so you are misinformed there. The city is totally on board to go on and the governor will not stop it. If it gets cancelled it will be solely an Ironman decision.


I have enclosed the "misinformed" article from the St George News (local paper) for your review.

https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/...-masks/#.XxYacZNKiCg

The newer article is from the softball tournalment you referred to. It states that part of the tournament was cancelled due to a positve COVID-19 test being found after the child had already played four games. Limited social distancing was seen by the reporter and one out of eight teams was wearing masks.

https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/...lation/#.XxYb6ZNKiCg

I wrote Ironman today that I am deferring to CDA 2021 as the risk is too high for me. There is no way to keep thousands of athletes and volunteers safe under the current conditions.

Update to this is that the kid who tested positive at the softball tournament was retested that same week and was found to be negative. Thus far that has been the only COVID related issue stemming from the tournament. I can totally understand how you feel but I think when it comes to a controlled outdoor event with Ironman's new process the risk is minimal. I have done 3 IM's and the most interactions I have with others are at the buses, the expo, the wetsuit strippers, the aid stations, and the finish line. IMs new procedures in essence eliminate the expo, there are no wetsuit strippers, the aid stations are self-serve, and the finish line is a prepackaged procedure.

The only open question to me is how they will administer transportation to Sand Hollow. My guess is that athletes are on their own to get to Sand Hollow, which wouldn't be a big deal seeing that there will only be a max of 1,000 athletes. If they assign staggered times to show up at Sand Hollow this should be totally doable.

Again, the chances of catching COVID are much, much higher at work or at Costco than at a controlled endurance event. Yet, some of us still show up to work and the entire world "risks their lives" every day by going to the grocery store. I understand your sentiment but I think that with a limited number of participants IMSG can be a safe event, certainly safer than the 2012 IMSG :-).

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Re: Unsurprisingly - IMWI Cancelled [Lock_N_Load] [ In reply to ]
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The acceptable term is "wetsuit peelers"

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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Re: Unsurprisingly - IMWI Cancelled [Lock_N_Load] [ In reply to ]
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seeing that there will only be a max of 1,000 athletes


As far as I can tell the race is sold out. I was thinking that means far more than what youā€™re suggesting. It is a Championship race, and I would expect many registrants from outside the US though, virtually everyone of them not able to participate should the event happen.

I guess the bottom line of how I feel about the event actually happening is this:
- IM better have reasonable options for those who can not (due to travel restrictions) or donā€™t feel safe to travel/participate
- I personally will be torn and disappointed because while I love StG and want to do a full there badly, I may have to submit to being in the ā€œdonā€™t feel safeā€ category (primarily due to being married)

Btw, more for the other threads re: proactive communication to athletes by new owners, StG race site currently says this:

So not only is there no coordinated update, they don't even think it's necessary to remove obsolete info after several days.
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Re: Unsurprisingly - IMWI Cancelled [friskyDingo] [ In reply to ]
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seeing that there will only be a max of 1,000 athletes

As far as I can tell the race is sold out. I was thinking that means far more than what youā€™re suggesting. It is a Championship race, and I would expect many registrants from outside the US though, ritually everyone of them not able to participate should the event happen.

I guess the bottom line of how I feel about the event actually happening is this:
- IM better have reasonable options for those who can not (due to travel restrictions) or donā€™t feel safe to travel/participate
- I personally will be torn and disappointed because while I love StG and want to do a full there badly, I may have to submit to being in the ā€œdonā€™t feel safeā€ category (primarily due to being married)

I think the ā€œsold outā€ is to a much lower number of participants. Many have transferred or will not be able to attend due to international restrictions. I think IM is counting on this so that they can have a controlled number of participants. My guess is that the count will be around 1,000.

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Re: Unsurprisingly - IMWI Cancelled [spencer93w] [ In reply to ]
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Has anyone heard any information (or even rumors) about how they're planning to combine the full and half next year (or were planning to this year). I'm tempted to defer from 2020 IMChatt into IMWI, but nervous about having 5000 people on course at the same time.
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Re: Unsurprisingly - IMWI Cancelled [wjoiner] [ In reply to ]
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IMSG has the participant list posted on the website. 1536 brave souls. Looks like it could actually happen.
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Re: Unsurprisingly - IMWI Cancelled [mgreer] [ In reply to ]
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If we don't have vaccination rates in the high 40s- low 50s by then, we are boned anyways.

Next races on the schedule: none at the moment
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Re: Unsurprisingly - IMWI Cancelled [sbr1406] [ In reply to ]
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IMSG has the participant list posted on the website. 1536 brave souls. Looks like it could actually happen.

Nope.

Pink? Maybe. Maybe not. You decide.
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Re: Unsurprisingly - IMWI Cancelled [sbr1406] [ In reply to ]
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And probably 3 or 400 won't show up. Looking at the list it looks like mostly Americans and those from out of the country are more likely not to show. I'm still optimistic we can race. Getting to the lake is easy if I have my wife drop me off, and I don't need to touch anyone during the race so doesn't seem that risky.

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IMSG has the participant list posted on the website. 1536 brave souls. Looks like it could actually happen.
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Re: Unsurprisingly - IMWI Cancelled [CP78] [ In reply to ]
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I don't need to tough anyone during the race so doesn't seem that risky


You think youā€™re a tough guy huh?

So long as you donā€™t touCh anyone, thereā€™s 0 risk... ā€˜Murcia!

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Re: Unsurprisingly - IMWI Cancelled [friskyDingo] [ In reply to ]
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meant touch :) fixed, not very tough
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Re: Unsurprisingly - IMWI Cancelled [CP78] [ In reply to ]
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Sure, sorry to spell-police. But you do realize that the spread of the virus has little to none to do with "touching anyone during the race," right?
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Re: Unsurprisingly - IMWI Cancelled [friskyDingo] [ In reply to ]
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Ok, well the contactless thing is still important to stop the spread. As far as people breathing on me, don't recall much of that either.
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