As usual, no answer just deflection and insults. No surprise.

No answer? I've repeatedly answered while you have backpedaled, deflected, and shifted the topic.

Correct, you have not answered, just your usual insults and deflection.

Why do lying grifters see your party as fertile ground? Maybe it is because they have seen the success of GOP politicians like Ron DeSantis who rose to national prominence off his pathetic, and often unconstitutional, anti-woke jihad. They see outrage farmers like Tucker, Hannity, Kirk, Cernovich, Posobiec, etc. make millions off pushing grievance and fear. They see that the GOP has put wackos like Marjorie Taylor Greene in positions of power. They embrace conspiracy theories about elections, Clinton killing people, vaccines, Obama being a Kenyan Muslim, etc.

SBF is a lying grifter who thought he might find a home in the GOP because so many other lying grifters found a home there.

Word salad. You are really struggling here. You were so excited to call SBF a Republican you didn’t even read your article. Your original post gleefully stated SBF was a Republican and finally coming out, which was a lie everyone reading easily saw. You kept shifting until you argued the same original reply I gave you as if it was yours. SBF had a list of crazy hairbrained schemes to try to use as a last ditch Hail Mary before he goes to prison for a long time. He was the liberal darling and embarrassed all that fawned over him. Your attempt to make him a Republican is absolutely laughable. Your inability to admit anything when slapped in the face with the truth greatly diminishes any credence you have here.

This is pretty pathetic. Just hang you head, lick your wounds, and live to fight another day.

Yup, your post was pathetic. Your inability to address why the GOP attracts so many lying grifters says a lot.

Jesus. I should have taken Windy’s advice. You are just crazy. This is not the subject. You claimed SBF is a Republican, but keep changing things everytime proven wrong. All he had was some crazy notes with one of them a crazy plot to gain favor by going on Tucker to scream about Woke in attempts to save himself. You leapt on this to calm your brain by confirmation bias. He originally tried his games on your liberal party that fawned all over him. It blew up and now it hurts your internal dialog so you latch onto something to calm the conflicting thoughts in you head.

You just will never quit when wrong and keep changing the subject. Your original post in this discussion was utter fucking bullshit and no one fell for your lies. Give it the fuck up.

You know better. There is zero evidence that is his party. He donated millions to Democrats.

Zero is a strong word. Item 1a in SBF's list of what he was going to tell Tucker, "While public contributions show one thing, you see another thing including super PACS."

And that's not a lie.

$20M to McConnell's One Nation, $3.2M to the American Prosperity Alliance. Supported a bunch of other Republican House and Senate campaigns.

He seemingly supported Democratic causes and campaigns openly and publicly, and Republican ones "dark" and quietly.

That said, I think you're 100% right that the GOP is not his party. Like Trump he has no sincere ideological convictions whatsoever. He just uses one party or the other as a vehicle to serve his interests as needed. While at FTX it was better to be more open in supporting the Democratic side because FTX/Alameda was steeped in Silicon Valley culture, which is quite "liberal." Peter Thiel and a few others notwithstanding.

Hidden donations he said he made to Tiffany Fong in an interview, an industry social media journalist. The same person he revealed in text messages that his persona was a fraud. But he thought she would keep it private for some reason. His stimulants were a helluva drug...



https://time.com/...political-donations/

Exactly.

SBF himself has said that he donated equally to both parties as part of a strategy to insure FTX's political power. During his trial they talked about the strategy of "giving to a lot of woke shit for transactional purposes" . SBF said he wasn't comfortable playing the woke game

This is not new, he told a reporter two years ago that "man, all the dumb shit I said. It's not true, not really." that his "ethics stuff" was "mostly a front." that “this dumb game we woke westerners play where we say all the right shibboleths so everyone likes us,”. They gave almost $40 million to the GOP, most of it illegally.

Mattbk is screeching insults to deflect from the fact that SBF, like so many other lying frauds, saw the GOP as a potential safe haven that would be receptive to him if he just babbled about "woke" on Tucker.

There is plenty of evidence that he directed millions in donations to the GOP and felt that he would receive a warm welcome there if he went on Tucker and complained about "woke". Given the large numbers of lying fraudsters who have found a home in the GOP it is understandable why he would think this.

Meanwhile it looks like he is going to be in prison for a long time. Yesterday prosecutors asked for 40-50 years.

Prosecutors seek from 40 to 50 years in prison for Sam Bankman-Fried for cryptocurrency fraud | AP News

Yes you should have....deduct 3 points

You're not doing yourself any favors here. The contentious point was that he was a Republican, which seems pretty unlikely. He was and is willing to do whatever to manipulate people to his own advantage, just because many members of the GOP are good marks, that doesn't make him a Republican.

In his own words he identifies as one.



I agree he is a shape shifter who aligns himself with whoever he thinks will benefit him. He clearly thinks Republicans, and the Alt-Right, will buy his BS.

That appears to be a strategy to garner some support, not a statement of his actual position. I'd be very surprised if he is actually a conservative/Republican based on what I've seen of him.

He successfully employed the effective altruism liberal bit and garnered much support from big names that thought he would give a bunch of money to their pet projects and foundations. His parents are activists and his Mom is big into effective altruism and imparted much information and ideology on him. He took this knowledge and used it to create a fake persona and manipulate people instead. He was big into stimulant drugs, video games, and stealing clients crypto deposits to support it all until it imploded. In the public eye he drove a crappy used Toyota Camry, wore baggy shorts, crappy shoes with big white socks, etc. "Look, he doesn't care about money!" But what about his $40 million penthouse... and $300 million in Bahamian real estate.

Wait I thought you said he IS a republican…?


Oh yea you did say that. You’re totally full of shit.

SBF himself says he is a Republican.....but you knew that.

No I didn’t. Nobody else seems to have either. Stop lying.

Guess you missed this



SBF has been in the closet and now wants the world to know he is a Republican.

SBF had a list of crazy Hail Mary ideas to save himself. At the top of the list he noted these were bad ideas that were not vetted at all. Just a wild list he wrote while brainstorming how to reverse his status. The fact that Nutella latches himself to this drug induced silly list to prove SBF is a Republican is just pathetic. He also ignores that SBF chose to try to manipulate his "Dear Party" primarily. He only thought of a possible hairbrained idea of manipulating the right by being anti Woke(tm) after the left turned on him as their prior darling boy. This thread has become a perfect example of Nutella's extreme bias and the way he continually lies and manipulates, shifting, deflecting, insulting, making up positions people havent made to argue against. In this thread he called SBF a Republican without reading his posted article. Then gradually shifted to my rebuttal and tried to pretend that was his point and not mine, that SBF was just trying to manipulate the right for points. But he is still trying very hard to make SBF a Republican. Careful, I already lost 3 Windy points (which I plan to appeal shortly) so maybe take Windy’s advice ;)

That's a bit harsh professor. -3pts is the bottom. I actually recanted and admitted being wrong. I think that alone would allow leniency. I argue for a -1 but would also accept a -2 for the extreme nature of my sin. Please accept my plea.

Did FTX give $40 million to the GOP before or after "the left turned on" them?

Nutella, The Black Knight... just give up already...

Good grief are you being a complete moron. It must be on purpose because I know you’re intelligent.