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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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ironclm wrote:
BREAKING NEWS

Sam Bankman-Fried, the FTX founder, was arrested in the Bahamas after U.S. prosecutors filed criminal charges, the Bahamas government said.

Monday, December 12, 2022 7:02 PM ET

Mr. Bankman-Fried has been under investigation by the Justice Department over the sudden implosion of his $32 billion company that filed for bankruptcy on Nov. 11.https://www.nytimes.com/...B&smid=share-url[/url]


Good. I got the real sense this guy, like Elizabeth Holmes, just didn't know when to turn off the media tour and STFU. I guess when you've spent a decade or more with everyone fawning over your brilliant speaking that you start to think you can talk your way out of any problem.


He's laying out the groundwork for the ignorant little lost lamb defense

He was trying with his little media tour and basically throwing everyone else under the bus in the process. No one was buying it and he got on record with media with a horseshit story that won't hold up to examination. The other people involved should turn on him. I expect a lot of deals to be made by the people involved to testify against him. Unfortunately that means that a good handful of folks that are just as complicit as SBF will plea bargain for less punishment than they deserve.



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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [Endo] [ In reply to ]
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Now Binance has had almost $1B of net outflow just in the past 24 hours.
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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [jkhayc] [ In reply to ]
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Now Binance has had almost $1B of net outflow just in the past 24 hours.



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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [Endo] [ In reply to ]
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https://www.nytimes.com/...t&smid=share-url

BREAKING NEWS
U.S. prosecutors unsealed their criminal indictment against FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried, charging him with fraud and conspiracy.

Tuesday, December 13, 2022 10:24 AM ET

The founder of the crypto exchange faces eight counts, including wire fraud on customers and lenders and conspiracy to defraud the U.S. and violate campaign finance laws.

Prosecutors for the Justice Department’s Southern District of New York unsealed a criminal indictment on Tuesday, charging Mr. Bankman-Fried with eight counts, including wire fraud on customers and lenders and conspiracy, including conspiring to defraud the United States and violate campaign finance laws.

The Securities and Exchange Commission filed civil charges on Tuesday, alleging that Mr. Bankman-Fried misled investors who committed nearly $2 billion to FTX while also defrauding customers of the exchange.

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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [ironclm] [ In reply to ]
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Rumor has it that Caroline Ellison, who was the CEO of Alameda Research, has been in New York last couple weeks (previously thought to be hiding in Qatar). Probably singing like a bird to the authorities.


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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [Endo] [ In reply to ]
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Rumor has it that Caroline Ellison, who was the CEO of Alameda Research, has been in New York last couple weeks (previously thought to be hiding in Qatar). Probably singing like a bird to the authorities.


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Based on what I read she's probably more culpable than he is for things at Alameda
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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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Endo wrote:
Rumor has it that Caroline Ellison, who was the CEO of Alameda Research, has been in New York last couple weeks (previously thought to be hiding in Qatar). Probably singing like a bird to the authorities.


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Based on what I read she's probably more culpable than he is for things at Alameda

Maybe, maybe not. She was only the CEO for the 3 months prior to leading up to the implosion.

Sam Trabucco was the CEO of Alameda for last years. He spontaneously stepped down to "go sailing and enjoy life", and Caroline assumed the CEO position. They are all involved. I do wonder if Caroline, while involved the whole time, i'm not sure she was the mastermind. Assuming all the shenanigans were going on for a long time, then Sam T was the main guy at Alameda.

Who knows, but I guess it will all come out eventually.
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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [jkhayc] [ In reply to ]
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So this clown directly gave 46MM to Democrats against less than 300K to Republicans in 2020

It also appears he was the largest donor not named Soros to Democrats in the last cycle

Allegedly without any foundation and just according to him he was the second or third largest donor to the GOP via dark money. I'd like to see some proof of that if for no other reason to see how dark donations work

Obviously every single one of these politicians and groups should give that money to the estate or donate to an apolitical charity like kids with cancer
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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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So this clown directly gave 46MM to Democrats against less than 300K to Republicans in 2020


Sam Bankman-Fried says he's the Republicans' third-biggest donor, but used 'dark money' to avoid media criticism

Sam Bankman-Fried says he's the Republicans' third-biggest donor, but used 'dark money' to avoid media criticism (yahoo.com)

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the former CEO of the failed crypto exchange has now explained how he donated "about the same amount to both parties this year."

"I've been their third-biggest Republican donor this year as well," he said.

Bankman-Fried explained that this was "not generally known," because "all my Republican donations were dark."
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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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Sam Bankman-Fried wasn't the only GOP mega donor at FTX. The CEO gave millions to GOP Congressional campaigns

Cryptocurrency magnate, new GOP megadonor, sunk millions into primaries | Washington Examiner


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Budding Republican megadonor Ryan Salame quietly shelled out $13.4 million of his personal fortune to boost 15 GOP congressional candidates in the just-concluded 2022 primaries.


Salame, a 29-year-old cryptocurrency mogul, lives in the Bahamas, which is the headquarters of FTX Digital Markets, the firm he oversees as chief executive officer.

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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [Nutella] [ In reply to ]
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Oh my God, the irony is just crazy.

"Salame, 29-year-old cryptocurrency mogul, lives in the Bahamas, which is the headquarters of FTX Digital Markets, the firm he oversees as chief executive officer. But he’s a native of Berkshire County, Massachusetts, and as a self-described “libertarian”-leaning Republican, he decided to get involved in politics this year because he believes the federal government is gravely unprepared for the next pandemic."

Right, because science-denying repubs are gonna make the US govt more prepared for the next pandemic!

This moron is too stupid to understand how funny he is!

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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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So this clown directly gave 46MM to Democrats against less than 300K to Republicans in 2020

It also appears he was the largest donor not named Soros to Democrats in the last cycle

Allegedly without any foundation and just according to him he was the second or third largest donor to the GOP via dark money. I'd like to see some proof of that if for no other reason to see how dark donations work

Obviously every single one of these politicians and groups should give that money to the estate or donate to an apolitical charity like kids with cancer

Dem Senate Majority Pac stepping up to the plate and returning $3 million.


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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [H-] [ In reply to ]
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windywave wrote:
So this clown directly gave 46MM to Democrats against less than 300K to Republicans in 2020

It also appears he was the largest donor not named Soros to Democrats in the last cycle

Allegedly without any foundation and just according to him he was the second or third largest donor to the GOP via dark money. I'd like to see some proof of that if for no other reason to see how dark donations work

Obviously every single one of these politicians and groups should give that money to the estate or donate to an apolitical charity like kids with cancer

Dem Senate Majority Pac stepping up to the plate and returning $3 million.

Stepping up to the plate?
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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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Stepping up to the plate?

Have any other recipients of political donations from the FTX crew announced that they are returning donations? I could well have missed that if it is the case.

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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [H-] [ In reply to ]
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windywave wrote:


Stepping up to the plate?

Have any other recipients of political donations from the FTX crew announced that they are returning donations? I could well have missed that if it is the case.

Many from both parties
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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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Excellent. The one I referenced was the first one I saw. I did scan this thread to see if anything mentioned here. Some here didn't seem to think there was any moral obligation to return donations.

Meanwhile, SBF is supposed to be extradited tonight. He insisted on waiving his rights to oppose extradition. I suspect he's finding prison in the Bahamas is no tropical paradise:

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In the week and a half since his arrest in the Bahamas, the Bankman-Fried has been held in a prison that US officials have described overcrowded, dirty and lacking medical care. Its crowded cells often lack mattresses and are “infested with rats, maggots, and insects.”
Prosecutors and attorneys for Bankman-Fried are discussing an arrangement for his release, with conditions, that would enable the failed crypto entrepreneur to avoid spending time at the Metropolitan Detention Center. The MDC is a pre-trial holding facility that former inmates and rights advocates have described as inhumane, citing frequent lockdowns, overcrowding and power outages that have left it without heat in the middle of winter.

Source CNN

I bet SBF has been repeating to himself, "I really, really, really f***ed up."

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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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windywave wrote:
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windywave wrote:


Stepping up to the plate?

Have any other recipients of political donations from the FTX crew announced that they are returning donations? I could well have missed that if it is the case.

Many from both parties

How will the GOP return the millions in dark money donations SBF gave them?
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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [H-] [ In reply to ]
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Well he's truly fucked.... Ellison and his co-founder already pleaded guilty in the Southern District earlier today.

Is naive doofus a viable defense?
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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [H-] [ In reply to ]
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windywave wrote:


Stepping up to the plate?

Have any other recipients of political donations from the FTX crew announced that they are returning donations? I could well have missed that if it is the case.

I believe there was an announcement or something from the SEC or one of the agencies that anyone or entity that received funds/donations/etc... from SBF or FTX might be required by law in the eventual settlement of this to return every $$ they received, as it was all stolen customer money. So a lot of politicians are front-running what they'll be required to do by law later.

Props to Beto O'Rourke (D-TX) that received a $3M donation from FTX earlier this year, and ike a boss, promptly sent the money back with no thanks...way before all this started.
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The CEO of a hedge fund and co-founder of a crypto exchange. How old do you feel right now?





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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [Bretom] [ In reply to ]
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The CEO of a hedge fund and co-founder of a crypto exchange. How old do you feel right now?


Old. But also somewhat competent at my job. (I do realize that at least the one on the left apparently sounded some alarms, but not very well, apparently)
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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [Endo] [ In reply to ]
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Endo wrote:
H- wrote:
windywave wrote:


Stepping up to the plate?

Have any other recipients of political donations from the FTX crew announced that they are returning donations? I could well have missed that if it is the case.

I believe there was an announcement or something from the SEC or one of the agencies that anyone or entity that received funds/donations/etc... from SBF or FTX might be required by law in the eventual settlement of this to return every $$ they received, as it was all stolen customer money. So a lot of politicians are front-running what they'll be required to do by law later.

Props to Beto O'Rourke (D-TX) that received a $3M donation from FTX earlier this year, and ike a boss, promptly sent the money back with no thanks...way before all this started.

Yup. Clawbacks.

Some of the politicians are donating the money to charities they are close to. This is a big mistake as that money should go to the creditors.
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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [Nutella] [ In reply to ]
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How will the GOP return the millions in dark money donations SBF gave them?


As I understand it, SBF didn't give any candidates dark money directly. Dark money goes to a non-profit that then distributes to candidates. So, initially, the onus is really on the non-profits that received the dark money donations from SBF. There will be records of this. We'll find out how much SBF gave to Republican dark money non-profits.

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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [windywave] [ In reply to ]
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Well he's truly fucked.... Ellison and his co-founder already pleaded guilty in the Southern District earlier today.

Is naive doofus a viable defense?

He's on his way to living at home with mommy and daddy again. Much stricter house rules now though.

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Re: FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried [H-] [ In reply to ]
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He's on his way to living at home with mommy and daddy again. Much stricter house rules now though.

Poor mom and dad are getting dinged a bit by this too. They are both institutions at Stanford. And it's not a great look kicking it in their son's palatial Bahamas estate when he was arrested.

It's plausible they knew nothing of the illegality, though they were apparently at times involved in FTX-related activities. Nevertheless their Stanford academic reputations will be ever so slightly tarnished at best.
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