gofigure wrote:
Slowman wrote:
ericMPro wrote:
I feel like you’re misrepresenting my argument, which is obviously about me and how I miscommunicate and not about you. That said you’ve reduced me to a conspiracy theorist.i wouldn't say i've reduced you to a conspiracy theorist. i'd say that you rightly, sagely bring to light actions, behaviors, trends that need to be exposed. but then - and look at your posts of this morning, just above mine - you have a way of presenting them as linked. for example, you linked 3 things a couple of days ago (presented 3 ideas in tandem, as "evidence"), one of which was the protocols of the elders of zion, conflating the 3 ideas in that post, as if certain current abhorrent figures (as bad as they are) are taking their cues from a virulent antisemitic forgery.
your style is to present multiple examples of scary stuff and my takeaway is that you're saying, "see! more examples of how peter thiel and viktor orban have been working together on a plan to take down all governments worldwide by devaluing national currencies!"
but then you say there's no conspiracy, even as you routinely write as if there is one. maybe what you mean to write is that there is no conspiracy, there is just a zeitgeist. and that's clearly true. nationalism, nativism, appears and recedes and reappears, generationally, because of the brain stem mistrust of those who could possibly threaten the tribe.
if that's what you're saying, fine, but what you write has the feel to me of a vast connected conspiracy with note-taking, and meetings minutes read, and a code book, and an org chart, and a mission statement, if we only knew where to look. you largely know or highly suspect who and what is on the org chart, and you are providing us the clues on which we could follow up if we only have the eyes to see.
i'm happy to hear about how i'm the only one, or one of a very few, who interprets what you write in this way.
I find your analysis spot on. and Eric does walk the line of trying to tie stuff together that by conventional wisdom is missing a few events to meet the no shit planned conspiracy.
Yet, there are coincidental events that find relations without "official" tie ins . There are people and orgs that feed off each but do not coordinate. There is a history to national movements that see ebbs and flows as the adherents die off and are replaced under different names.
We are assailed with a flood of disinformation that has been weaponized. The us v them tribe alignment within our own boundaries shows how fragile our democracy truly is. I am willing to give Eric the benefit of the doubt and try real hard to sort through his wrestling metaphors, his muckraker sourced not quite MSM links to find his not quite old school defined conspiracy ties in an effort to either call BS or find the hooks that bind and then assign a threat priority.
He does make it hard to stay tuned in at times. But then I am retired and following his posts has become a hobby.
I applaud his effort.
You could knit cat hats.
Eric has said many informative things. He also has made an awful lot of connections where I don't think any exist. I tend to fall much closer to Dan than Eric. I think Eric's biggest mistake(s) is around something he himself mentioned above, overestimating the criminals. Which leads him to overestimating the conspiracy. These guys just aren't that good. There is no Emperor Palpatine. (and yes Eric I did in fact just get done watching the entire Star Wars universe in chronological order)
Take Ted Cruz. Ted Cruz is a nasty, evil, sniveling little shit. Even his kids don't like him. Ted is at CPAC, he plays all the NAZI games, he sucks up to Trump, etc. But he isn't part of the conspiracy. First, they'd never trust him. But more importantly Ted doesn't want what Trump wants who doesn't want what Thiel wants, etc. These guys all have giant egos and want the power for themselves. They are all nasty little shits who play at the same tactics but that doesn't mean they are on the same team.
I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.