Lots of people drive without license, registration or insurance....despite the fact that it's illegal.

There are also some states that actually have no license or registration requirements and also have some of the lowest deaths per capita by firearm in the US.

Lots of people drive without license, registration or insurance....despite the fact that it's illegal.

There are also some states that actually have no license or registration requirements and also have some of the lowest deaths per capita by firearm in the US.

Let's talk about extreme options:

1. Why not re-open the mental hospitals and institutions that Reagan shut. I'm in, but don't understand the topic very well in all honesty.
2. Why not automate life sentence if you are found in illegal possession of a firearm? Might be a bit challenging on the actual structure of the laws but in principle, it seems reasonable.
3. 5 day waiting period, OK, just annoying. 1 Approved Safety and training class, Like hunter's safety, Ok, I'd probably agree., 3 references (willing to co-sign for liability), Interesting.
4. National registry (O.k. this one isn't extreme and I don't know why it is such a big deal), Seen as potentially a first step to confiscation, will raise HUGE resistance.
5. Ban on owning firearms if you have received mental health services, with a DB somewhere to track such information. (Yes I know this is an invasion of privacy, but we are trying to stop mass shootings right?) No on this one. Good idea on the surface, especially for severe/obvious disorders, BUT: Mild depression after your Dad died or a divorce, no firearms ever? Mental health dx are difficult and subjective enough without permanently affecting the rights of those involved. Seems like it could also be weaponized against people/groups. Would also reduce willingness to seek mental health eval/tx for many who value their gun rights.

Classrooms of kids and shootings at lawmakers softball games have not done anything. I can’t envision something that would at this point

I think that something that would make an immediate impact is to stop naming the cowards. I think that most shooters do it for the notoriety. Stop showing their pictures and giving their names. Let them die or go to jail in absolute anonymity. Refer to them as "The Parkland Coward" but never name them.

It does me no good whatsoever to know their name, so stop giving them the fame they seek. I think that many of them would reconsider if they knew that their name would just disappear from society.

There may be a few who are so corrupt and broken that they just want to kill, but many are doing it for the notoriety. Stop giving them what they want.

"No smart gun has ever been sold on the commercial market in the United States" Smart guns do not exist in any real way any more than flying cars exist. Your suggestion is absurd and suggests a lack of basic understanding.

Look forward to the next thread exactly like this one after the next school shooting. I get it. It makes people feel good to discuss what could help. Nothing will be done in our lifetimes. Maybe our grandchildren will be wiser.

Agree 100%, though I wouldn't put them in jail. I think we should be far more creative, cruel, and brutal for these kinds of "people".

Smart guns exists. Your knowledge of the subject appears to be the first sentence in Wikipedia that you quoted ( verbatim no less). They are commercially unavailable because…. The gun lobby does like them. So what “basic understanding,” do you think I lack? I am looking for specifics.

It would take a decade for this to have a real impact. Sandy hook was a decade ago.

How many times in this thread have you said we can't do something because of 2A? You seem to be less concerned about the 8th.

MJuric wrote:

Lots of people drive without license, registration or insurance....despite the fact that it's illegal.

There are also some states that actually have no license or registration requirements and also have some of the lowest deaths per capita by firearm in the US.

Look forward to the next thread exactly like this one after the next school shooting. I get it. It makes people feel good to discuss what could help. Nothing will be done in our lifetimes. Maybe our grandchildren will be wiser.

Sorry, not going anywhere near a school with a gun. Not happening, ever. Unless I was a police or security officer.

I'll have genuine conversations about gun control. Honestly. I truly understand and find some merit in SOME of the arguments for gun control.

Will you train with and carry a concealed firearm? Will you accept that responsibility? Or is this an instance of "they" should do something???

Why don't these guys attack/shoot up a police station? Why do they always choose soft targets where they KNOW that nobody will shoot back?

The government can't save you from everything.

I can't legislate away evil, but I can fight back.

Until the laws are changed and guns are gone (which may be necessary), are you just going to wait? Do nothing other than blame the Republicans or the NRA? Hope and pray?

What are you going to do?

Nothing.

Yeah, that's why people use " "... They're commercially unavailable because they're a useless gimmick. As far as I can tell, you lack all of the basic understanding. All of it. There are 400 million guns and quite frankly, guns aren't very difficult to machine/manufacture. "Chipping a gun" is about as useful as a self defense unicorn.

So you don’t believe that having gun laws like the UK or Canada wouldn’t significantly reduce school shootings?

I think, in addition to gun laws like Canada or the US have, you need to do something about the absolutely insane amount of firearms in circulation in your country. How you accomplish that, I have no idea.

Easy. We can use a carrot instead of a stick.

The govt can buy them off people. Maybe at 2x or 3x their market price. People will line up for miles to cash out.