It must really stink to live in Wisconsin if three and a half years later you're still crying ''Whaaaa, Hillary ignore me''

And then crying ''Biden's ignoring me too'' even though we are in a world wide pandemic.

So go ahead, vote for the orange haired bullshitter. He's your guy anyway!

hillary earned your vote. she earned it because she was smart, qualified, effective. in everything she did, she was pretty effective. you chose not to vote for her because you didn't like her. okay. but what i keep hearing about trump supporters is that they aren't voting for pastor, father, husband. you tell me why trump is given the pass on everything that should speak volumes, but hillary is held to some standard that is unattainable.

democrats didn't blow it, my friend. foolish voters blew it. there's a thread on hillary right now. what would be different in america if hillary was elected? we'd have 20,000 coronavirus deaths instead of 160,000. NATO would be our ally, and russia our adversary. we wouldn't have a trade war. or a president whose words have become irrelevant because the whole world has awoken to the fact that what our president says carries exactly zero weight.

but if hillary were elected, you would be uninspired by your leader. hillary did not inspire you. so you chose another option, and you got what you chose, and you're now asking democrats not to blow it again? this is like having a spouse that you got a little too used to, and you strayed, you wanted a little strange, and you certainly got strange, and you saw the consequences of strange, and now you're asking your spouse to not blow it again. okay.

I think your separation of attending "the convention" which happens to be in Milwaukee and "campaigning" in Wisconsin are two different items. Which you helped differentiate in a subsequent post.

Biden not attending the acceptance, yeah, maybe that's a smart choice on his part to stay healthy but maybe not the best strategic move for the Dem party and the convention. A little air out of the room but there's a pandemic on and the Dem party in Milwaukee is toast anyway.

His not campaigning in Wisconsin? Well, he's spending money on ads, but I think his best play is to stay in the basement and just let the opposition keep destroying themselves. If Trump wants to hurt Trump's chances, well then stand back and let him. Biden cannot play in the Trump-defined sandbox anyway, Trump wins in any head-to-head spat match. Just.stay.out.of.the.way and let Trump self-destruct. People mostly aren't electing Biden, they're simply trying to elect anyone but Trump. Sure, Biden, like Hillary, has all kinds of position papers which the vast majority of voters aren't going to bother to even glance at nor digest in any capacity. Their N=1 conversation about a slight from a Union rep from 27 years ago or from Fred at the gas station carries more weight.

And as another poster said, the people of Wisconsin elected, then re-elected Ron Johnson. Almost anyone who can fog a mirror sees what a light-weight Johnson is. Almost anyone, except a majority of voters in Wisconsin.

Not sure why you hate Kayne so much. Perhaps you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself why.

I think this viewpoint and position should be separately highlighted and repeated

But it is BS? There is no way to know what the difference in deaths would be.

Heck there might not have been any travel ban thus increasing the deaths.

I'm not saying Trump has done a good job with Corona.

but only if the states listened. And there are few Red states that would listen to Hill.

Keep deflecting. Typical JSA when you can't argue on substance.

You continue to try to make this about me, when it is about the GOP party of your state enabling the candidacy of guy who isn't part of the party. I can only assume that they hope that having him on the ballot would pull votes away from Biden because they know Trump is weak in the state and stands a better than even chance of getting beat.

As for you implication of something else about me, kindly get bent.

If you and your state is so fickle- and thin skinned- that they need Joe to come give them a personal visit to get their vote after the last 3.5 years of Trump, I don't know what to tell you.

As a purple state, the way Wisconsin goes depends completely on voter turnout. There are some cross-voters, sure. But, local polsters have correctly picked winners based entirely on voter turnout for about the past 30 years. Turnout is also a very fickle thing. It continues to boggle the mind, but, the average Joe and Jane need to be motivated to get out and vote. Motivation rarely comes from political ads. History has shown a candidate's presence in the state directly correlates to the motivation level of a certain group. For better or worse, that's what the numbers have shown. If Joe feels his physical presence in the state is not needed, well, that's his decision. His presence or absence will not impact my vote. But, my colleagues who work with the WI Dem Party are very nervous and very upset by the decision. They are in a far better position to ascertain the impact on turnout of their party members than I and they are concerned.

But it is BS? There is no way to know what the difference in deaths would be. Heck there might not have been any travel ban thus increasing the deaths. I'm not saying Trump has done a good job with Corona. Far from it. He has done terrible, but to think that Hillary would snap her fingers and Covid would stop killing people is dumb. Maybe policy from the feds would change things, but only if the states listened. And there are few Red states that would listen to Hill.

Keep deflecting. Typical JSA when you can't argue on substance.

You continue to try to make this about me, when it is about the GOP party of your state enabling the candidacy of guy who isn't part of the party. I can only assume that they hope that having him on the ballot would pull votes away from Biden because they know Trump is weak in the state and stands a better than even chance of getting beat.

As for your implication of something else about me, kindly get bent.

If you and your state are so fickle- and thin skinned- that they need Joe to come give them a personal visit to get their vote after the last 3.5 years of Trump, I don't know what to tell you.

It's fascinating that you are telling me Hillary earned my vote knowing absolutely nothing about me or what I wanted I 2016 or what was important to me.

Being a lifelong democrat from one of the most liberal cities in the US (Madison, WI) this is the attitude that frustrates me so much.

I got what I chose and I voted in 2016 just didn't check a box on the presidential ballot.

Why was the DNC slated for Wisconsin? I'm going to guess they chose Wisc partially because it is midwest swing state, and partially because of the negative press surrounding being ignored last election.

Now the convention is virtual and the Candidate is snubbing them. There is no reason to think this won't effect the Dem influence in the midwest.... I'd bet if the DNC was in NY or CA, Biden would be told he must attend.

Team Donkey. Hope your guys don't blow it ... again ...

Deflect, ignore and no substance. Typical lawyer shit.

This is about the GOP Party in your state pulling a pathetic and desperate move to get a guy who isn't even in their party on the ballot in the hopes of helping the election chances of a historically bad candidate from their party. You know it is and you know you can't defend it. If you could have, you would have by now.

But once again, you fail to address the issue. Pathetic.

The worst part is the racism being used to try and sway the election. They chose Kanye for one reason and one reason only. They are hoping black voters go to Kanye instead of Joe. That’s disgusting.

Dude Kanye put himself into the race.

Then why are people on trump's campaign gathering signatures for him?

Why not? Marquess of Queensbury Rules do not apply in politics.

Well, you said he put himself in the race, well that is not exactly true is it.

that's really what you hope? your posting history convinces me otherwise.

Deflect, ignore and no substance. Typical lawyer shit.

This is about the GOP Party in your state pulling a pathetic and desperate move to get a guy who isn't even in their party on the ballot in the hopes of helping the election chances of a historically bad candidate from their party. You know it is and you know you can't defend it. If you could have, you would have by now.

But once again, you fail to address the issue. Pathetic.