This doesn't indicate that he isn't racist. It just means he's willing to put his own bottom line above his pre-conceived notions. Based on 25 years as an employment lawyer, I can tell you I've seen a number of business owners and employers that maintain pretty racist-sounding points of view, but they still hire "the best person for the job regardless of skin color or gender" because: (1) they know they'll get in trouble with the EEOC if they don't; and (2) they have the business' best interests at heart and they truly believe they'll be better off financially with the minority candidate. It doesn't change their core belief, though.

My answer to the question is "yes."

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That's true. I didn't say he was or wasn't racist. I don't think we know enough to make that call. He says/does and has said/done things that could make you think either way. That's why personally I think this is a tired and shitty "poll".

Hell yes

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It is also incredibly silly if you actually think trump hires the best person for the job. He has staffed people because of 1) nepotism. If you think his children/SIL are the best people for the job you are crazy. 2) Most of trump's high level appointments have failed. 3) Trump himself has said high level appointments were not qualified for the job.

You cant say he hires the best people, when the turnover is so high and when he himself says the person wasnt qualified.

Are you really such a gullible fool that fell for that fake news?

A week ago I would have said no, that he was just a petty-minded, self-centered, moderately intelligent person who said things he knew would feel comforting to his base in their guts. Much like I don't believe Rush Limbaugh actually believes 50% of what he says, but rather says them to benefit his ratings, I thought Trump simply said what would achieve his desired ends.

But after last week, there is simply no question anymore that either he is a racist at heart, or is trying to convince every last person that he is a racist. By telling an American citizen to go back to where they came from is saying that by virtue of your skin color, America is not where you're "from." If you're white, you belong here. You're "from" here. If you're brown, you don't belong here. You're "from" somewhere else.

It's the definition of racist. My skin color denotes that I deserve the the benefits of this country. Your skin color denotes you don't belong here, so get off my land.

Perhaps the fake MSM has been far too prevalent in my life. What has he said/done that would make me think he is not racist or prejudiced against minorities?

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As soon as you start calling things "fake news," you lose any credibility.

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I think since it's become such social stigma to be racist, a lot of people have moved the bar to where a racist = white (or whatever) supremacist rather than just a good old fashioned bigot.

My answer is yes.

To address the above poster.......if you take that literally.....yes. He's against the Chinese and other trade problems, wants more advantageous immigration policy with surrounding countries, and wants to reshape our role abroad in national security.

Taken in the way I'm pretty sure you and POTUS mean it.......it's a pretty vile and disgusting thing to divide a united populous under one flag as "not American" because they disagree with your ideology.

How many revolting communist, socialist, fascist dictatorial leaders can we think of that basically said "you don't agree with me, so you're not 'us'".......and acted on it?

Also, your opinion of "no" isn't well justified with the sentences after that. Just because someone wants to divide and conquer a populous by excluding dissenters from the republic doesn't make them racist........nor does it make them not racist.

The key I think a few of you forget is that he told US Citizens to go back to another country. He made a presumption based on race and religious affiliation about their countries of origin. So, he's batting 3 for 3 on both racist and Islamophobe and arguably xenophobe.

It's like the old "well, black people like watermelon and fried chicken". Or, white men can't jump or dance. She's Muslim so she must not be from America: 1. She's Latina so she must not be from America: 2. They share an idea I don't like that has origins from other countries and I'm attacking that (it isn't native): 3. For #3, it isn't that he (or you) don't like it. That's perfectly fine. It's the why that matters. He and some others seem to not like it because of where it comes from.

To get more in depth on #3, the xenophobia, it's usually related to bringing up the very old-school American political trick of the most repugnant forms of socialism and communism that can be found abroad. Then draw a parallel, however loose, to yoke a foe to the most repugnant example you can find. Usually a close neighbor like Cuba and conjuring up murderous images of Che and Castro and a truly socialist regime. Or other banana republics.

Not realizing whatsoever that the US has had a long history of quite a few programs that are quite socialist. Uhmmmm, social security? 1935. Medicare, 1965. Disaster relief, FEMA, 1979, trade unions since forever.

We've all got a little racism in us. It's all in how we react when we're confronted about it.

Paraphrasing the sheriff in No Country for Old Men: if he isn't racist, he'll do until the racist shows up.

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That is clearly not correct. He hired Jared.

Yes.

If I were to send out tweets suggesting that coworkers of color go back to where they came from, I'd have been fired, as well as anyone else I know would be fired for doing so.

Technically Trump and members of Congress are not co-workers, however I would add this to the over-flowing bucket of reasons to impeach.

Yes, obviously.

To the people who think otherwise... what would it take to make you come around?

Does he have to have a Kramer-style N-word meltdown?

If it walks like a duck....

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Well, the news lost it's credibility when it promoted the Fine People Hoax.

That fucking thing just won't stop quacking. Windywave would shoot it.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

It's a mystery why it won't stop quacking...

I dont think trump's reaction to Charlottesville is a good indication of trump not being a racisit.

Trump: "Excuse me. Excuse me. Take it nice and easy. Here’s the thing: When I make a statement, I like to be correct. I want the facts. This event just happened. In fact, a lot of the event didn’t even happen yet, as we were speaking. This event just happened.

Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.


It was a group of neo-nazis.

One thing that comes ringing through these posts: Because Trump can so easily gaslight his followers they think they can turn around and gaslight everyone else (sane people) with his lame lies and talking points.

Sorry suckers but it ain’t going to happen.

Please try again. Show the entire exchange/context.

It was clearly a discussion about the removal of Confederate statues, and "both sides" referred to people on both sides of that issue.

If that's not enough, he goes on to specifically say that he isn't talking about the white supremacists, and that they should be condemned totally.

If you can't see that, you are a weak minded, gullible fool that fell for fake news. (Or so totally partisan/biased that you base your reality on confirmation of that bias).

His words are all there in black and white, and they are racist. Therefore I conclude he is a racist. so YES!

I think the onus is on you to explain why they are not.

No, it was not. The rally was called, "Unite the Right" and featured lots of racist and neo-nazi speakers. That was one side. It was not about confederate monument removal, they just gathered by a confederate monument, because they were racists.

You are trying to change the history of the event.

Wrong thread! And wouldn't you know they are both windy's threads. Ready, aim, shoot. Dam it! You missed. It's still quacking.

So the issue of removing confederate statues is passed? There "were" very fine people on both sides?

The question asked to trump asked and answered was about two groups. The alt-left and white supremacists.

Reporter: "Mr. President, are you putting what you’re calling the alt-left and white supremacists on the same moral plane?" ....


Trump: "I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane. What I’m saying is this: You had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs -- and it was vicious and it was horrible. And it was a horrible thing to watch.



Reporter: "The neo-Nazis started this. They showed up in Charlottesville to protest --"
Trump: "Excuse me, excuse me. They didn’t put themselves -- and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group. Excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name."

Eacactly. It literally was a march of white males with torches and some had swastika flags. Under no circumstance would a reasonable President declare some of them “fine people.”

The poor men who lost their lives storming the beaches of Normandy would roll over in their graves to hear that a President said such a thing or that his weak-minded followers defend it. If there’s anything on which we should all agree it is that Nazis were and are bad people.