Creed is not a Rocky movie

They will reboot James Bond again. What I really would like to see is it done historically instead of contemporaries ala the Americans

Who says the new 007 won't be a womanizer?

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Jane Bond, the new 007? Please tell me it ain't so. There was a big to-do a few years ago when a black male was going to be the next James Bond. Surprised that a black female (yet alone any female) is being considered.

The publications did a lot of spinning in their latest stories so what exactly happened is not clear. Right after the new series started the UK papers stated that a lot of the previous viewers dropped off, but afterwards a lot of new viewers were recruited, most notably "younger" viewers at the end of the latest season per the two publications I read.

So okay, Capaldi was a bit hard to follow after the previous Dr. Who actors, so there was a big jump in ratings. We stopped watching because the story lines, at least in the first episode with the female actor, did not have the same writers and went into a PC mode with the new writers. I watch SciFi and fantasy programs to escape current life, not reflect it so much.

bad idea and it's not going to work... I wont even netflix it.

That's how you call it google rockie movies and Creed and Creed II are listed. And here is the wiki link for the Rocky series https://en.wikipedia.org/.../Rocky_(film_series)

They also seem to think those 2 are included.

But if you say they are not in your world then yes the James Bond movies are done... But the 007 Franchise will start.

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
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Agreed. In You Only Live Twice, Bond is transferred to another agency with the number 7777. The position of 007 in MI6 is left vacant, but, could have been filled.

I'm fine with someone other than Bond being 007, if the story line explains it. What I don't like is changing James Bond, himself, into something he is not.

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Agreed. Creed and Creed II are part of the Rocky series according to those who own the rights to the Rocky franchise.

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I agree with you. I remember a few years ago there was talk of Halle Berry's Bond character getting her own movie. And nobody cared. If you want to create a female secret call her 008 and see if the public shows up at the box office.

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Interesting thoughts.

My wife and I talked about this and I think I told her that I never liked Liutenant Yar from Next Generation but love the new Starbuck. When writing a typically male role for a female, or vice vera, it has to really be done well, cast well, written well, and ultimately it has to make sense.

Part of what I think made Starbuck work is that her skills were centered around piloting, which is hypothetically believable to be a fighter ace.

I think the biggest problem bond will face is not the believability of a female super spy (like Natasha Romanov), but that she'd specifically be filling the shoes of a traditionally male, womanizing playboy type character. Its not impossible, but will present a big writing challenge. I would say the same for an all male Charlie's Angels.

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Well then from what I read you should be fine with this, as Bond is retired, and Q calls 007 into the room and its the new women. Assume story moves on from there like most Bond movies did. Really doesn't need to be a big James goodbye party, Could be a cold, fast transition.

I am not a Bond fan, don't hate the movies just never seem to get around to watching them, can't tell you the last one I watched.

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
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Sacrilegious to the history of James Bond

Not sure I agree with this. The Doctor has frequently exhibited some pretty traditional male roles, including some of the relationships they’ve had with their companions.

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Why from everything that has been posted it seem to follow the rules of succession James is retiring and there is going to be a new 007.

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
Be kind English is my 2nd language. My primary language is Dave it's a unique evolution of English.

I feel like I'm open minded about most of this type of stuff, but a female bond just feels pointless. Just go with a whole new franchise. At this point, what's the Bond name really buying you anyway?

We're 42 posts in.

I am pretty with you here. Bond is a guy. Mostly because he is a womanizer + gadgets + cars + Mi6. I am not saying you cant flip that on its head and make the spy a Femme Fatale but that just doesnt play into the lore of bond/007. its like if charlie' angles were dudes.

However, at the end of the day, I understand that the 007/bond franchise carries so much weight with it that people will go see a bond movie, to see a bond movie. They may not go see a 008 movie. So from the prospective of Hollywood/current licensing, I get why.

Who will be the first critic who will dare to write a negative review about a black female Bond and expose himself/herself to being called woman hating racist?

You realize James Bond is still a white guy, right?

I know that. But if we have 007 Jane Bond and it flops who will be the racists to blame? Audience? Critics? Someone gotta be guilty...

Blame me. I'm getting accused of lots of shit these days. I'll probably be accused of being on the grassy knoll next even though I wasn't born yet

Who did they blame when the Oceans XX (I forget) movie flopped?

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Just Triing
Triathlete since 9:56:39 AM EST Aug 20, 2006.
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I haven't seen that come to cable at all. Worse than the remade Ghostbusters?

It wasn't that those movies were redone with women. It was that they were redone with women badly.

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I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.

Like many things. If the movie is a good movie most will not care. If the movie stinks, people will blame it on that.

I have no problem with 007 being a woman. It would be strange if James Bond was a women. Very similar to if Bruce Wayne was a women or Selena Kyle was a man.