They aren't in the restaurant business or the food preparation business or even the raw food handling business, I think we can agree on that.

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Difference between married with a gaggle of children and gaggle free

Yes, but they're in the food delivery business. Airbnb is in the short-term housing rental business. Uber and Lyft are in the ridesharing business. Ridesharing, I think, could be considered a type of transportation?

No more so than posting something on the bulletin board looking for a ride home at Winter break and offering 50 bucks. Does the bulletin board need to ensure ADA compliance?

What properties does AirBnB own?

Is ebay in the retail sales business?

How many vehicles does Lyft own? How many drivers do they employ as W-2 employees?

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Here are some of Lyft's patent. They sure use the term "transportation" and "vehicle" a lot for a company that's just a bulletin board:



"Facilitating transportation services by generating a directional indicator between a requester and a transportation "
"Optimizing pickup locations for transportation requests based on context information"
"Ride chaining"
"Autonomous vehicle notification system"
"Switching between object detection and data transfer with a vehicle radar"
"Detecting and handling material left in vehicles by transportation requestors"

First word of the first patent all you need buddy.

Oh, I don't know or care about the legal stuff. My only point is that they're a transportation company when speaking in plain English. I'm sure they could spin that way now, but my point is that most of their capital is going into self-driving cars right now. And there's simply no way to spin that managing a fleet of self-driving cars is done by anything other than a transportation company.

And the self driving cars will be ADA compliant big boy. If they aren't I'll be right next to you with a pitchfork

They both trade rides for money.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how rideshare works.

As soon as they operate their own cars, you can make that argument. By relying solely on that argument, you are conceding that, at present, because they own no cars, they are not a transportation company.

YOU may not care about the "legal stuff," but, the "legal stuff" is all that matters.

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Nope. A taxi company owns the vehicles and employs the drivers. Lyft does neither.

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You're just being silly. Uber and Lyft are in the business of transporting people. I'm fine giving a wink-wink at them to avoid ADA compliance. I think it's silly to require them to do be ADA compliant in this case. Government regulation has to adapt to the real economy. The proper way to do that is to change the regulation. But just pretending they're not a transportation company just enables the continuance of poor regulatory law.

Next, you will argue that LinkedIn is an employment agency.

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I replied above. The legal stuff matters. I just think it's better to change the law side rather than do the mental gymnastics to pretend a transportation company isn't a transportation company.

What? The analogy isn't close enough to even be silly.

Why? They connect people who have jobs to offer with people who are seeking jobs.

Lyft connects people who need rides with people who have rides to offer.

It is a perfect analogy that illustrates the fallacy of your position.

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And how do they do this "transporting? "

Right now, Lyft does not provide transportation services anymore than Travelocity provides transportation services. Once Lyft deploys its own vehicles, the situation will have changed. But, that is not now.

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Nope. Lyft connects transporters with those who need transportation. Lyft does not provide transportation.

Look, this is really, really easy to prove. If you log in to the Lyft app and request a ride and no drivers are out, available, and/or in your area, you don't get a ride. Lyft does not deploy another vehicle or driver to your location. It merely connects you with a driver in your location, but, only if one is available.

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I'm sorry, I thought you paid Uber and Lyft whenever you got a ride. My mistake (sarcasm if it's not obvious)

Nope. You pay the driver. Lyft and Uber collect the fee as part of their service and deduct an appropriate fee.

You also pay ebay every time you buy an item off of ebay. Do you think ebay is in the retail sales business?

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No, you're dead wrong. Taxi companies typically lease cabs to drivers, who are in many cases not employees.

You're trying to draw a bright line between taxis and Lyft, but I don't think the line is quite that clear.

The common element is that both taxi cos and Lyft spend a lot of money on rat bastard attorneys. :-)