Slowman wrote:
scorpio516 wrote:
slowguy wrote:
The core issue, certainly as expressed by Sen Sanders, is whether or not you believe a fundamental core right of citizens in a democratic society is the right to have a vote in your representation.Which also is informed on how you view criminal justice. Is the point rehabilitation, or is punishment and removal from society?
If you think criminal justice is to punish the criminal, why don't we just execute every criminal? Why don't we take a page from our history and send every criminal to a moon colony or space station or Georgia?
while that point is germane to the overall discussion, it's not germane to slowguy's point. one way you can parse people is by how they approach values. whether a person's values are fungible. i don't agree with rand paul on very much. i agree with bernie sanders on slightly more. but they're examples of one kind of person: one who is consistent in his values; and who doesn't bend much based on the popularity of one's values.
even if bernie didn't believe in the concept of redemption; even if he believed every inmate should be executed; he'd still believe every inmate has the right to vote up to the point he gets the chair, because he believes it's a fundamental constitutional right. i don't know that i agree with him. but i can certainly see the argument.
Don't you think you need to adhere to the laws of our society to maintain your core rights? Don't you think some of these rights should be lost or suspended if you are convicted of breaking the laws of our society? What kind of warped value is it that endorses the idea of Dylann Roof, etc etc etc having the right to vote for his choice of president in 2020? This is just one reason why "Crazy Bernie" deserves his nickname.....and why he will never get elected to lead this country.