trump cares so much about illegal immigration, that he stopped employeeing them in January.

Man, one day you will realize how much you fell for it.

His approval rating I believe is fairly high with Repubs so I guess they like his decisions.

What about the white trash in the cities who are big Dem fans? I think you want to characterize rural with poor. I'll give you most rural people lean right. And there are rural people who are poor, but not all rural people are poor... In fact I would argue that most rural americans live a comfortable life. Probably more so than those in the big cities. Also, there are some very rich ranchers out there...

See, conservatives don't like trump because of his policies, they like trump's policies because they like him. How else have they totally flipped from something being bad under Obama, but good under trump?

Should it give you pause that this conman is doing things that conservatives were dead set against?

289 accomplishments and thats the best you can do? I'm sensing weakness. C'mon, you can do better. But use facts for a change and not just your opinion.

Your generalities are showing. They are for building a wall ( generally don't like eminent domain but in some specific circumstances, such as defending our sovereign border, they can accept it).

Declaring an emergency is constitutional as it has been done millions of times before by presidents. Only issue the left has is calling the border situation an emergency, which conservatives agree it is an emergency ( the soverign border thing again) so that's not an issue.

Tax break, are you kidding me. Give me back my money is a conservative virtue that outweights budget defecits...cut something else to balance the budget.

Obama was a mess bowing to world leaders all over the place so Trump can't do any worse with Kim.

Ahh, so you admit that trump doesn't think undocumented workers are a big deal?

How much is mexico paying for the wall?

You are just proving DJT is on his way to another election win. You got nothing. Dems have nothing but Kamala, Pocohontas, Booker, Bernie.....what a crew. Yep, I fell for those 289 accomplishments. What did you fall for? Benghazi was caused by a video? You can keep your doctor?

Ahh, taking away private property is ok if there is a good reason. Very conservative there.

Declaring a national emergency is constitutional, that is correct. Spending money congress appropriated to spend on something else to spend that money on something congress specifically did not approve, is not constitutional. Read Ariticle I of the constitution. And congress can't pass a law gives a constitutional responsibility to another branch, if not the whole constitution can be re-written without amendments. That is why this has never happened before. I thought conservatives cared about the constitutions?

Didn't conservatives always say that money has to be paid back sometime? So you are fine with those in the future having to pay MORE taxes?

trump saluted a NK general! trump bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia! So is trump a mess? Or is bowing a fine thing to do?

He is not giving out money by cutting taxes It’s OUR money he is letting the government take less of.[/quote]
The money is going to be taken, just in the future plus interest.

I see why you support trump now.

Do you or the other lefties ever realize how much of a condescending asshole you sound like? You obviously think you are smarter, better, more intellectual, know better, etc. etc. etc..... than the rest of us? But really we just see an talking ass...

I don't know what most any of that has to do with what I wrote. No i don't want to characterize rural with poor, I just want to say I think the rural poor described in a book like Hillbilly Elegy are disproportionately with Trump. IOW not all of Trump's base "want to work and want to achieve and believe in self-reliance".

I am a Web Developer in an online company that offers these cat supplies (toys, litter pan, beds, cages and many more). The power of love? Thos will be the last words I will be expecting from Trump. :)

Sort of reminds me of the smug faces on the celebrating left supporting media outlets at the start of election night 2016.......right up until about 1am. Priceless. You would have thought it was a lesson learned......but obviously not.

This should be understood in the context of taking the work seriously, not in lending legitimacy to a fringe faction of the right that doesn't deserve legitimacy in an American republic.

Let's be very clear that flat Earth, pizza-gate, anti-vax, crazy ass conspiracy theorist retards have no place at the table with the adults. The right thinks that when that's said, it applies to all of the right. It doesn't. It applies to maybe even just 5%. But, the right continuously allows that 5% an undeserved legitimacy. And the left doesn't take the threat seriously. It's clear, based on the Republican presidential primary, that the right didn't take it seriously either. You had two or three electable and palatable solutions on the table up against the left, and this is what we got.

Both sides fail miserably at addressing the power and voice of the fringe. I partly blame campaign finance laws for that, and corporations being people. Getting rich lunatics with money driving this stuff where the ideas normally would have stayed in mom's basement in front of a computer terminal where it belongs.

   

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This. I have always considered myself right leaning. I was stupid and naive enough to think Obama would be good for the country when he was elected because he would be a unifying force and help to make disenfranchised minorities feel like they had a voice. Boy, was I wrong on that. Obama had a great opportunity that was squandered on fomenting even more division in more ways than I ever imagined. Along comes Hillary, who is ten times worse than Trump will ever be by any and all measures. She is the worst liar on the planet, the LEAST respectful of women no matter how much she holds herself out as a promoter, the biggest fake in our country regarding respect for minorities, she is completely willing to trade our country's interests for her own personal gains, flip-flops on major positions for political gains, and she is the most repulsive elitist that is so far removed from the middle class that she doesn't have a clue what is going on in America. Yet, lefties think that anyone that voted for Trump is a knuckle dragging idiot because Queen Hillary called them such and, apparently, not too many of her base have a brain to form their own opinions. They are all sheeple blindly following the party line and believing that anyone that disagrees with them is racist, misogynist...blah blah blah... And, we all must get together and HATE TRUMP. Nothing else matters, we must HATE TRUMP! This hatred has completely defined the Democratic party ever since the election and is the basis upon which all leadership decisions are made. Running the country and lawmaking are so far off of the Left's radar as to be irrelevant because it will sap energy for HATING TRUMP.

So, now, I have moved firmly into the Right. The Left's agenda has been fully revealed since the election and it makes me sick. Fortunately, the party is imploding right before our eyes. They are relying on funneling illegals into the country so they can count their votes even though the current leadership of their party and our last President called sealing the border a top priority. They have lurched so far toward extreme positions that they have somehow rationalized killing children that have been carried to full term. I am pro-choice, by the way, but with reasonable limits. Yet, they claim concern about children being separated from their families at the borders. Give me f'ing break with that. But, being outraged about that facilitates fomenting more hatred toward Trump among the non-thinking sheeple that have become the Democratic party that the leadership believes can be bought with 'free everything'. The fact that the Left is relying on hatred for Trump, turning illegal aliens into voters, and impeachment in order to win in 2020 just proves how desperate they have become. No workable policies to sell, no foreign affairs strategies, no economic knowledge or ability to implement rational fiscal policy (reference the number of Leftist cities and states that are essentially bankrupt), and no ability to silence or even muffle the freshman nut cases (and Maxine Waters) that got elected by the sheeple base.

Regarding Trump, he is a cheating husband and probably a scumbag businessman. But, I didn't vote for him to be married to him and I don't expect to be doing business with him. I voted for him because the alternative was Hillary and I thought Trump would live up to his campaign promises that I agreed with. So far, he has lived up to more of them than any other past President I can remember. Would I have a beer with him if he called me? Probably not. I personally don't like the guy because his ego is too big and in some ways, he is childish.

So, this knuckle dragging deplorable with two graduate degrees will vote for him in 2020 in the absence of any alternative. You Lefties can just keep on with the current strategy of a campaign completely based on hate for Trump and free stuff for everyone. All of us on the Right would love that.

Greg

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If you are a Canuck that engages in gratuitous bashing of the US, you are probably on my Iggy List. So, save your self a bunch of typing a response unless you also feel the need to gratuitously bash me. If so, have fun.
"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f___ things up" - Barack Obama, 2020

So would you encourage a primary opponent against trump?

Also your implosion comment makes no sense giving the results of the midterm elections.

So, to summarise, you like Trump as our president because you hate Hilary and Obama more, and so you're willing to look past his character flaws and mischaracterize the left and their policies to suit your per-determined narrative.

Don't ask logical questions. Of course he wouldn't. Trump is the only person who can Make America Great Again.

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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?

Anyone supporting far right Donnie is wrong as are folks pushing far left issues. Electing either extreme just perpetuates the divisions on 2 ends of bell curve. Hard to believe we have a degenerate for prez. History will prove trump's policies wrong (deficits, trade, climate, human rights, tax/wealth disparity) but going hard left not answer either (free college, eliminating hamburgers, reparations, etc). Back & forth.......small group at top loving it...

When folks believe Cohen more than Cadet bonespurs (50 to 35)...about says it all

Something I just dont understand. Is that many trump supporters here go from:

I was a slight leaning member of the GOP Iiked obama because I thought he would unify the nation, which led to Ok. ok. I love trump. Screw trying to unit the nation, and screw being a centrists. I now like strong policies on the right.

Obama "unifying" meant appeasing those uppity minorities and women so they stop the whining. Since that didn't work, well fuck 'em. And the illegal aliens are a great proxy to take those frustrations out on since the whole illegal thing makes it hard to defend them.

Saying that somewhat tongue in cheek.

Yes, I absolutely would consider a primary opponent against Trump. That said, they guy has been getting things done.

Just about all of my comments about implosion are the results of the mid term elections. It was those elections that have derailed the entire party. It is now lead by a 27 year old bartender. Until Nancy gets a grip on leadership of the party again, it is doomed for failure, and I never thought I would say that.

Greg

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If you are a Canuck that engages in gratuitous bashing of the US, you are probably on my Iggy List. So, save your self a bunch of typing a response unless you also feel the need to gratuitously bash me. If so, have fun.
"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f___ things up" - Barack Obama, 2020

See this is what doesnt make any sense. You said, that you were a leaning member of the GOP. Now you dislike trump as a person (so this isnt why you would vote for him) but you like trumps far right policies.

So at the end of the day, either you changed your political views from being closer to the middle to closer to the fringe (while also saying that people dont like trump just because of his far right policies, which is exactly why you like trump), or your political views have always been what they are.