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Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [Jackets]
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After 2 years of 70.3, make sense to begin IM this year or next one.
Qualification to Kona is another problem, with new system.
Qualification to Kona is another problem, with new system.
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [Jackets]
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I wish they would speak English! I couldn't understand 90% of what they said. Didn't catch anything about ironman though.
Also, they were riding on the wrong side of the road!
Scott in Whistler
Also, they were riding on the wrong side of the road!
Scott in Whistler
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [photoguy]
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I am a Yorkshire lad so made perfect sense to me !
Jonny mentions Kona and Nice
His accent btw is real Yorkshire and he mumbles
Jonny mentions Kona and Nice
His accent btw is real Yorkshire and he mumbles
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [photoguy]
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For extra hilarity, turn on the auto captioning...
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [Scheherazade]
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That made watching it again even better! I like how at times it didnt even try to figure out what was being said
Scott in Whistler
Scott in Whistler
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [Jackets]
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I do believe that a 2012-fit Alistair would completely crush everyone in Kona, I'm talking swimming with Burgs, biking with Wurf and running 2:35. Hopefully we will witness him in top form again, because it is truly something to see.
Terrible Tuesdayâs Triathlon
Terrible Tuesdayâs Triathlon
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [photoguy]
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photoguy wrote:
I wish they would speak English! I couldn't understand 90% of what they said. Didn't catch anything about ironman though. Also, they were riding on the wrong side of the road!
That's what they say about americans... you don't QUITE speak OUR language
Tee hee.đ
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [oscaro]
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A thing of beauty in top form (both Brownlee's)
I just fear we may have seen the best of them.
I just fear we may have seen the best of them.
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [Jackets]
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Here's another interesting vid from there Chanel...
Ali says he hadn't had much running at all before 70.3 Worlds, confirming what most of us knew already about him not being fully fit.
Ali says he hadn't had much running at all before 70.3 Worlds, confirming what most of us knew already about him not being fully fit.
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [Jackets]
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Ali excels at the "I've not even in run shape" and throws down sick time. I believe it was 2011 or 2012 Kitzbuhl and he was recovering from an I believe achilles issue. Lays down probaly the best come back race I've ever seen in ITU, just obliterates the field, and his post conference was like "yeah I'm not even in run fitness yet"...ha I think that's his secret....he destroys himself so much in training that the better he can't do run training the healthier and better he'll do in the races.
Ali racing Kona for some reason bores me. I think it's because all I see with IM training is injuries and thus "disappointment" because people will say he should be winning etc. And mostly because that's Ali's personality, I dont think he can "calm down" with his training style...it's full bore or go do something else.
ETA: What's the most important thing in pro sports? Being able to make the start line. I guess I see Ali's injury history just kinda being the kiss of death for his post ITU career.
Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II
Ali racing Kona for some reason bores me. I think it's because all I see with IM training is injuries and thus "disappointment" because people will say he should be winning etc. And mostly because that's Ali's personality, I dont think he can "calm down" with his training style...it's full bore or go do something else.
ETA: What's the most important thing in pro sports? Being able to make the start line. I guess I see Ali's injury history just kinda being the kiss of death for his post ITU career.
Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II
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B_Doughtie: Nov 24, 18 7:14
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [UKINNY]
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UKINNY wrote:
I am a Yorkshire lad so made perfect sense to me ! Jonny mentions Kona and Nice
His accent btw is real Yorkshire and he mumbles
He also mentions Leeds bewteen Kona and Nice.
I also heard a rumor Leeds may get an IM race. Anyone else hear this ?
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [marcag]
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Correct , not an IM brand one but a full distance Tri
Confirmed I believe - in Yorkshire somewhere
Confirmed I believe - in Yorkshire somewhere
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [UKINNY]
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Yup, put on by Freebird who are great, done a few of their races over the years. Newby Hall.
https://yorkshiremantri.co.uk
https://yorkshiremantri.co.uk
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [B_Doughtie]
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Why do you think IM training would make him more i jury prone? If anything it would do the opposit. He is already training more than most IM pros, but with crazy intensity as well. I think his legs will thank him when he switches out the quarter repeats to mile repeats.
Terrible Tuesdayâs Triathlon
Terrible Tuesdayâs Triathlon
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [oscaro]
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For the same reason he was injured this year, he seemingly has no filter to train âeasierâ. I dont think he suddenly moves to IM and is then injury free. So as I said I think it becomes people saying itâs a disappointment heâs not winning at same clip he was in itu.
ETA: your comment on 2012 is basically my point. We are now 7 years removed and a ton of niggle injuries of Achilles, ankles, hip injuries. Cumulatively at some point it catches up to you. And Aliâs style of smashing himself imo just doesnât mesh well imo w IM. Sure he can win races cus IMâs are usually very low dense fields but I donât see anything in way of consistency with him.
Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II
ETA: your comment on 2012 is basically my point. We are now 7 years removed and a ton of niggle injuries of Achilles, ankles, hip injuries. Cumulatively at some point it catches up to you. And Aliâs style of smashing himself imo just doesnât mesh well imo w IM. Sure he can win races cus IMâs are usually very low dense fields but I donât see anything in way of consistency with him.
Brooks Doughtie, M.S.
Exercise Physiology
-USAT Level II
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B_Doughtie: Nov 25, 18 5:54
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [B_Doughtie]
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I see from the latest Q&A video that AB rode 398W for 50 mins in a 25mile TT last year. An FTP of 390W+ must surely compare favourably in absolute terms to anyone in Ironman?
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [oscaro]
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oscaro wrote:
Why do you think IM training would make him more i jury prone? If anything it would do the opposit. He is already training more than most IM pros, but with crazy intensity as well. I think his legs will thank him when he switches out the quarter repeats to mile repeats.I pretty much wrote the same thing verbatim in another forum. The majority of running injuries are from intensity not volume. He's always trained big hours 35+ a week. All he's doing now is similar hours at less intensity, so yeah his legs will thank him for it.
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [zedzded]
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Still has that weird "up on his toes" running style though. It's never looked very kind on the legs to me, regardless of speed.
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [zedzded]
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I might be missing something but...how is he going to get any training stress by putting in the same hours but with less intensity????
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [Adman]
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Adman wrote:
I see from the latest Q&A video that AB rode 398W for 50 mins in a 25mile TT last year. An FTP of 390W+ must surely compare favourably in absolute terms to anyone in Ironman?His w/kg undoubtedly puts him in the top handful.
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [turdburgler]
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Iirc Wurf is about the same weight and also has a ftp around 400 just for comparison.
Terrible Tuesdayâs Triathlon
Terrible Tuesdayâs Triathlon
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [oscaro]
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oscaro wrote:
Iirc Wurf is about the same weight and also has a ftp around 400 just for comparison.Yeh that was my first thought. Similar in terms of watts and W/Kg. Frodo is about 380W from what I remember but he's 76kg so a bit heavier. Gomez is 350W @ 68kg so that's where he needs that extra 10-20W moving forward.
Re: Alistair Brownlee To Race Kona Next Year.... [photoguy]
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photoguy wrote:
I wish they would speak English! I couldn't understand 90% of what they said. Didn't catch anything about ironman though. Also, they were riding on the wrong side of the road!
Rides on the same side as us here in Australia. Seems you must be riding on the wrong side...
Frodo and Alistair could really blow up Kona mext year if they are both healthy, swim with burgs and then take turns on the bike and likely get to T2 with a 10+ min lead from Lange.
Any guess what Langes ftp could be? He is 64kg and I would guess his w/kg is lower than Gomez so maybe 320-330?
Terrible Tuesdayâs Triathlon
Any guess what Langes ftp could be? He is 64kg and I would guess his w/kg is lower than Gomez so maybe 320-330?
Terrible Tuesdayâs Triathlon