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2. Frodo
3. Gomez
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2. Charles
3. Jackson
2. Frodo
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Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [davejustdave]
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Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [tlc13]
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1. Frodo
2. Lange
3. Gomez
1. Ryf
2. Charles
3. True
2. Lange
3. Gomez
1. Ryf
2. Charles
3. True
Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [zedzded]
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zedzded wrote:
Lucy Charles for the win.That would be awesome but I don't think that'll happen till 2019. I think 2nd and 3rd will be a better race than for first..
Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [ivantriker]
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ivantriker wrote:
What I think that could happen: 1) Frodo, no merci, he run not only to win but to overperform that he is the best
2) Lange, solid bike, could run to wait an explosion of Frodo
3) Gomez Noya, not enough good performance in bike segment not enough experience in Ironman Kona "tactical", he has not the need to win his first year... but he could win if Frodo explodes... and Lange make some mistakes in the bike segment
4) Sanders, in my opinion, will run to win, that means that he is more likely to explode, if not he may be top3... or even win??
5) Kienle is one step backwards... but with many options to be top3.. he is very solid. He should race to be top3, not to win.
I cannot guess about others.. but what about Currie? He ran awesome when he won Gomez Noya in Asia-Pacific Champs
You kind of hit my thoughts perfectly. I just don't see anybody beating Frodo this year. He's so damn motivated and wants it so much. Guys racing with that big of a chip on their shoulder and that much talent or damn near impossible to beat... unless one of the other crazy talented people steps up and beats him. That's why this race looks so amazing.
It's kind of cool when you know that an 8 Hour race may come down to a minute or two
Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [mickison]
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mickison wrote:
frenchieTT wrote:
mattr wrote:
Men: Frodeno Women: Ashley Horner
This one made me laugh.
in her mind, she's already won kona...2 or 3 times...on a huffy cause getting bikes to an island can't be done.
But will she help the Hawaiian kids in need?
808 > NYC > PDX > YVR
2024 Races: Taupo
Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [davejustdave]
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davejustdave wrote:
zedzded wrote:
Lucy Charles for the win.That would be awesome but I don't think that'll happen till
FTFY
Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [davejustdave]
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Women:
1. Ugh... Ryf
2. Carfrae
3. Charles
Not that I don't like Ryf, I just like competition and right now, she's too hot to bet against. Carfrae runs down Charles.
Men:
1. Gomez
2. Lange
3. Frodeno
Not the smartest bet, I know, I just don't understand why everyone keeps saying Gomez, who always kept up with the brownlees, is a 'weak cyclist'. I want the rookie story and if anyone can do it, he can. I think once Jan realizes he won't catch up to Gomez, he fades back to 3rd while Lange gets close.
808 > NYC > PDX > YVR
2024 Races: Taupo
1. Ugh... Ryf
2. Carfrae
3. Charles
Not that I don't like Ryf, I just like competition and right now, she's too hot to bet against. Carfrae runs down Charles.
Men:
1. Gomez
2. Lange
3. Frodeno
Not the smartest bet, I know, I just don't understand why everyone keeps saying Gomez, who always kept up with the brownlees, is a 'weak cyclist'. I want the rookie story and if anyone can do it, he can. I think once Jan realizes he won't catch up to Gomez, he fades back to 3rd while Lange gets close.
808 > NYC > PDX > YVR
2024 Races: Taupo
Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [T3_Beer]
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T3_Beer wrote:
mattr wrote:
Men: Frodeno Women: Ashley Horner
Men: Ashley Horner
Women: Ryf
Ok. I lol'd.
Literally. Laughed out loud. I hate when people write LOL but they didn't actually laugh out loud. My coworkers are looking at me strange now.
Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [THRILLHO]
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THRILLHO wrote:
Only the fastest time by a male was ran last year (by Lange). Crowie has the second fastest time (idk why everyone seems to think that Sanders has the second-fastest time; just like everyone thinks The Notebook came out in the 90's). And the fastest time by a female was in 2016 by Ryf. Anyway, I say Lange and Ryf for the win. Jan and Lucy for runner up. Gomez and Rinny. Also, no one breaks 8hr this year.
Interesting. I took about 15 years off and Triathlon and missed the whole Crowie era. I was just assuming that what I had read on slow-twitch from others saying that the two fastest times were ran last year was true.
Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [NordicSkier]
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NordicSkier wrote:
davejustdave wrote:
zedzded wrote:
Lucy Charles for the win.That would be awesome but I don't think that'll happen till
FTFY
Haha! A guy can hope
Nothing against Ryf, she is so next level it's amazing to watch, but it makes for boring spectating when one person is so dominant.
While I do think Frodo will get this, there are enough deadly competitors that it really could be anybody's day.
I have a hard time watching sports on TV. It's really tough for me to get excited to watch an 8 hour long race, but this one definitely has my interest piqued
Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [davejustdave]
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A Brit for the women.
Some German dude for the men.
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Some German dude for the men.
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Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [davejustdave]
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Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [davejustdave]
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I predict - I will not be in Kona
Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [Pun_Times]
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Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [hadukla]
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hadukla wrote:
Women: 1. Ugh... Ryf
2. Carfrae
3. Charles
Not that I don't like Ryf, I just like competition and right now, she's too hot to bet against. Carfrae runs down Charles.
Men:
1. Gomez
2. Lange
3. Frodeno
Not the smartest bet, I know, I just don't understand why everyone keeps saying Gomez, who always kept up with the brownlees, is a 'weak cyclist'. I want the rookie story and if anyone can do it, he can. I think once Jan realizes he won't catch up to Gomez, he fades back to 3rd while Lange gets close.
I don't think the Gomez prediction is all that crazy. I was at St George when Brownlee showed up and whipped all the golden boys of Ironman. Sure Gomez is an unknown at this distance, but one would be nuts to rule him out.
Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [davejustdave]
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I'm calling for Frodeno/Ryf. At least still 2 months away from race day.
Personally I also believe that Jan with 2 kids now? and having accomplished everything in the sport while getting his redemption will call it a day soon after. Not sure how old he is but he has set himself up very well for a successful post racing career and seems to have a solid brand to work off.
Ryf will as well and potentially switch sports and move into cycling in some realm, maybe TT? Might be a bit late for 2020, but unless she is challenged on the day I think she will venture for a new challenge somewhere.
Should be a great year though. Men's race has more potential contenders then ever before with some great storylines/questions to be answered.
Women's field has transitioned into a new era and the new players are coming into the mix. I think this is Mirinda's farewell tour as well. I think she wants to she how well she can perform post baby in Kona and her success on race day might give her what she needs to know if she aims for Kona again, or does what Jesse Thomas did this year.
No idea on what times we will see as conditions are such a factor, but if conditions warrant and the race has a fast bike as it did last year on the mens side there are enough strong runners that a sub 8 race might be possible. Again very condition dependent.
Personally I also believe that Jan with 2 kids now? and having accomplished everything in the sport while getting his redemption will call it a day soon after. Not sure how old he is but he has set himself up very well for a successful post racing career and seems to have a solid brand to work off.
Ryf will as well and potentially switch sports and move into cycling in some realm, maybe TT? Might be a bit late for 2020, but unless she is challenged on the day I think she will venture for a new challenge somewhere.
Should be a great year though. Men's race has more potential contenders then ever before with some great storylines/questions to be answered.
Women's field has transitioned into a new era and the new players are coming into the mix. I think this is Mirinda's farewell tour as well. I think she wants to she how well she can perform post baby in Kona and her success on race day might give her what she needs to know if she aims for Kona again, or does what Jesse Thomas did this year.
No idea on what times we will see as conditions are such a factor, but if conditions warrant and the race has a fast bike as it did last year on the mens side there are enough strong runners that a sub 8 race might be possible. Again very condition dependent.
Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [davejustdave]
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men's race:
ali brownlee has secretly won a charity slot, and not told anyone. he and gomez swim like ITU studs, lighting up the field and constantly looking over their shoulders wondering why nobody else wants to race. this allows them a headstart for a controlled ride while the rest of the field go bonkers, with sebi, wurf and lionel burning matches like crazy. ali and gomez arrive fresh at T2 with a frazzled and fractured pack, have an epic marathon duel and both run sub 2:35, with ali, one last time, beating gomez right at the tape.
darkhorse braden currie sneaks in for 3rd after taking a bold flier in the midst of all the madness, while frodo and lionel duke it out for 4th. the canadian takes it on pure grit.
women's race:
daniela goes in for elective surgery a week before the race, ruling herself out. lucy charles wins going away, and rinny takes 2nd after setting a fresh marathon record (following a decent swim and weak ride). kaisa run steady all day for third in a women's race that's more strung out and less tactical.
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ali brownlee has secretly won a charity slot, and not told anyone. he and gomez swim like ITU studs, lighting up the field and constantly looking over their shoulders wondering why nobody else wants to race. this allows them a headstart for a controlled ride while the rest of the field go bonkers, with sebi, wurf and lionel burning matches like crazy. ali and gomez arrive fresh at T2 with a frazzled and fractured pack, have an epic marathon duel and both run sub 2:35, with ali, one last time, beating gomez right at the tape.
darkhorse braden currie sneaks in for 3rd after taking a bold flier in the midst of all the madness, while frodo and lionel duke it out for 4th. the canadian takes it on pure grit.
women's race:
daniela goes in for elective surgery a week before the race, ruling herself out. lucy charles wins going away, and rinny takes 2nd after setting a fresh marathon record (following a decent swim and weak ride). kaisa run steady all day for third in a women's race that's more strung out and less tactical.
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Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [davejustdave]
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Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [arby]
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Women - Ryf. Can't see anyone touching her barring injury or illness
Men - Depends on conditions. If its an easy bike day then Gomez if the wind picks up I cant see him being able to stay close enough to the uberbikers and would have to back Frodo who has proven he can ride with Kienle / outbike lionel and run well after
Dark Horse: would love David McNamee to pull out another stunner
Men - Depends on conditions. If its an easy bike day then Gomez if the wind picks up I cant see him being able to stay close enough to the uberbikers and would have to back Frodo who has proven he can ride with Kienle / outbike lionel and run well after
Dark Horse: would love David McNamee to pull out another stunner
Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [Sanuk]
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Sanuk wrote:
Men: Frodo
Gomez
Lange
Women:
Ryf
Carfrae
Kaisa Sali
Wow. You're picking a 3-way tie for both the men and women...
Yes, they will all cross the line holding hands as a protest to there only being 2 gender categories at Kona
Matt
Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [NordicSkier]
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NordicSkier wrote:
Frodo and Lange eat too many vegetables. I'm going with Javier Gomez. Everyone knows Spanish steak makes you go fast.
This year Ryf will be done showering and in dry clothes when 2nd place comes across the line.[/quote
It's funny to read that doping is always surrounding the spanish success in sports. It happened with Nadal, Gasol,... I really don't know what Contador did in that Tour de France, but I assure you that 80% of his contenders doped too in that case.]
So, I appreciate you bet for Gomez, but there is no need to put a shadow on him or we might do it to any other triathlete in Kona.
Are you American? Then you dope cause Lance did it
Spaniard. Sorry for my english for the sensitive ones :P
Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [juanillo]
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juanillo wrote:
NordicSkier wrote:
Frodo and Lange eat too many vegetables. I'm going with Javier Gomez. Everyone knows Spanish steak makes you go fast.
This year Ryf will be done showering and in dry clothes when 2nd place comes across the line.
It's funny to read that doping is always surrounding the spanish success in sports. It happened with Nadal, Gasol,... I really don't know what Contador did in that Tour de France, but I assure you that 80% of his contenders doped too in that case.]
So, I appreciate you bet for Gomez, but there is no need to put a shadow on him or we might do it to any other triathlete in Kona.
Are you American? Then you dope cause Lance did it
I wasn't implying Gomez was doping. in fact I believe (hope?) he is a clean athlete, and I'm pretty jaded about these sorts of things.
It was a subtle joke about Frodo going vegan to avoid tainted meat. He lives and trains in Girona I AFAIK.
Whenever I hear of an athlete going to an all veggie diet, I adjust my expectations (for the worse) of their performance and longevity.
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Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [juanillo]
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spain has pretty consistently had one of the highest rates of returned violations in all WADA sports. for instance, they were ranked #4 from 2000-2013:
https://www.germanjournalsportsmedicine.com/...s-from-2000-to-2013/
behind russia and america, of course, but still ahead of just about everyone else!
besides that, yes - there is a pretty large pro-american bias on this site and an assumption that americans can do things clean that most other athletes do doped.
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behind russia and america, of course, but still ahead of just about everyone else!
besides that, yes - there is a pretty large pro-american bias on this site and an assumption that americans can do things clean that most other athletes do doped.
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Re: Early, but let's hear it: kona predictions [iron_mike]
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iron_mike wrote:
there is a pretty large pro-american bias on this site and an assumption that americans can do things clean that most other athletes do doped.Everyone knows Americans can't win at Kona clean or otherwise. LOL.
If Sanders wins, can we count him as an American since Canada is in North America?