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Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force...
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Even before Congress approves the new military service, apparently.

I don't give a damn. The sci-fi possibilities are endless and there'll most likely be space Marines! No space force will be worth a cup of warm pi... uh, anything unless there are Marines in space, ;-)


"Within months, DoD will start standing up a new combatant command, a new space-procurement agency, and a new Space Operations Force.

The U.S. Defense Department this week will take the first steps to create the Space Force, a new branch of the military ordered up by President Trump but not yet fully backed by Congress.

In coming months, Defense Department leaders plan to stand up three of the four components of the new Space Force: a new combatant command for space, a new joint agency to buy satellites for the military, and a new warfighting community that draws space operators from all service branches. These sweeping changes — on par with the past decade’s establishment of cyber forces — are the part the Pentagon can do without lawmakers’ approval."

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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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More military flag officers, more upper level GS positions at the Pentagon, more real estate with more facilities, more overlap with existing organizations. What's not to like!



"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military–industrial complex."



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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [Alvin Tostig] [ In reply to ]
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Alvin Tostig wrote:
More military flag officers, more upper level GS positions at the Pentagon, more real estate with more facilities, more overlap with existing organizations. What's not to like!



"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military–industrial complex."



President Dwight D. Eisenhower, Jan 17th, 1961


"Space Marines." 'Nuff said. ;-)

"Politics is just show business for ugly people."
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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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It you mean that same DoD that said almost no one wa to this? Shocking.
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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [TimeIsUp] [ In reply to ]
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TimeIsUp wrote:
It you mean that same DoD that said almost no one wa to this? Shocking.

See Air Force bubba Alvin Tostig's post. That's probably why DoD has all-of-a-sudden gotten some of that old-time religion regarding the Colonial Imperial United Space Force (with Space Marines!) or whatever it's going to be called. ;-)

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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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big kahuna wrote:
"Space Marines." 'Nuff said. ;-)

We should opt for "Space Sailors." That way, we can refer to them as the SS and put all the negativity of that abbreviation behind us because we're the good guys, blowing up Nazi aliens and communist planets and shit.

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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [Travis R] [ In reply to ]
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Travis R wrote:
big kahuna wrote:
"Space Marines." 'Nuff said. ;-)


We should opt for "Space Sailors." That way, we can refer to them as the SS and put all the negativity of that abbreviation behind us because we're the good guys, blowing up Nazi aliens and communist planets and shit.

"Squids in Space." Eh... ;-)

What would naval gunfire in space be called? I remember us being co-located with those old ANGLICO units and we got into that discussion with them about naval gunfire and if it's still "naval" if it's not coming from guns out on the water. ;-)

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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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big kahuna wrote:
Travis R wrote:
big kahuna wrote:
"Space Marines." 'Nuff said. ;-)


We should opt for "Space Sailors." That way, we can refer to them as the SS and put all the negativity of that abbreviation behind us because we're the good guys, blowing up Nazi aliens and communist planets and shit.


"Squids in Space." Eh... ;-)

What would naval gunfire in space be called? I remember us being co-located with those old ANGLICO units and we got into that discussion with them about naval gunfire and if it's still "naval" if it's not coming from guns out on the water. ;-)

My junior high brain saw "naval" as "belly button." I don't think anybody really needs to know what my next logical progression was... lol!

With that said, since traditional gunfire won't work especially well without oxygen, are we going with some sort of electromagnetic rail gun tech or huge frickin' lasers or what? We need some serious "pew pew pew!" stuff for taking out bad asteroids. I don't think throwing packets of Tang at 'em is gonna amount to much...

Oooh - there we go, back to your question: It's not "naval fire", it's "Tang Bang."

That might be the dumbest thing I've ever written, but I'm still giggling, so I'm leaving it. :)

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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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It's funny to call some of this "new." We stood up U.S. Space Command as a Unified Combatant Command back in '85. It merged into STRATCOM in '02, but we're basically just bringing back what we already had.

Slowguy

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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [Travis R] [ In reply to ]
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Travis R wrote:
big kahuna wrote:
Travis R wrote:
big kahuna wrote:
"Space Marines." 'Nuff said. ;-)


We should opt for "Space Sailors." That way, we can refer to them as the SS and put all the negativity of that abbreviation behind us because we're the good guys, blowing up Nazi aliens and communist planets and shit.


"Squids in Space." Eh... ;-)

What would naval gunfire in space be called? I remember us being co-located with those old ANGLICO units and we got into that discussion with them about naval gunfire and if it's still "naval" if it's not coming from guns out on the water. ;-)


My junior high brain saw "naval" as "belly button." I don't think anybody really needs to know what my next logical progression was... lol!

With that said, since traditional gunfire won't work especially well without oxygen, are we going with some sort of electromagnetic rail gun tech or huge frickin' lasers or what? We need some serious "pew pew pew!" stuff for taking out bad asteroids. I don't think throwing packets of Tang at 'em is gonna amount to much...

Oooh - there we go, back to your question: It's not "naval fire", it's "Tang Bang."

That might be the dumbest thing I've ever written, but I'm still giggling, so I'm leaving it. :)

That's AWESOME! :-)

On a side note, I'm reading some hard sci-fi right now (the stuff that's accurate in terms of astrophysics, etc.) and the ships of the space force in it, on both sides, use rail guns along with a few other goodies.

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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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How much is this gonna cost? We can't even get rid of the stupid SLS, which is a real money pit. I don't have any faith in military contracting after the F-35 boondoggle.

If you want a real space force just give Bezos and Musk money to make their rockets. You'll be able to put more military assets into orbit than all the other nations combined. But we know what the orange haired wonder thinks of these real, not fake, billionaires.
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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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slowguy wrote:
It's funny to call some of this "new." We stood up U.S. Space Command as a Unified Combatant Command back in '85. It merged into STRATCOM in '02, but we're basically just bringing back what we already had.

Yes, but you did not create a big enough black hole to throw money into. Fuck me.

I want anyone who wants this to explain why we can't provide health care for everyone through the government because it is too expensive.

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [j p o] [ In reply to ]
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How can you afford health care when you have this very important new millitary branch to start?

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [WelshinPhilly] [ In reply to ]
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there's a morel in there somewhere!?

Steve
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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [Steve Hawley] [ In reply to ]
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Steve Hawley wrote:
there's a morel in there somewhere!?

No idea. I don't think mushrooms grow in desert climates though.
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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [WelshinPhilly] [ In reply to ]
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Really? I'd no idea ;-)

Steve
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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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BLeP wrote:
How can you afford health care when you have this very important new millitary branch to start?


What's your country's GDP versus our GDP? We could probably fund so-called "health care" just from the money we blow on video games annually.

Eh, our health care is just fine. And at least we're not openly encouraging "problem" (i.e. high-cost) patients to select euthanasia. I mean, "assisted suicide." Unlike a certain other country (cough, cough) we all know and love. ;-)




Chronically ill man releases audio of hospital staff offering assisted death

"In the first recording from September 2017, a medical worker is heard telling Foley that he will be charged some $1,500 a day if he stays at the hospital.

Foley labels the attempt as illegal coercion and says his preferences have already been violated. He asks what the plan is for him moving forward.

“Roger, this is not my show,” the man responds. “I told you my piece of this was to talk to you about if you had interest in assisted dying.”

In the other audio recording, reportedly from January 2018, a medical worker is heard asking Foley if he would like to pursue assisted suicide and whether he has had thoughts of self-harm. Foley says he feels like he wants to end his life because of his experience at the hospital, but that if he were given self-directed home care, he would “be fine.”

“You can just apply to get assisted, if you wanted to end your life, you know what I mean?” the medical worker says. “You don’t have to do it in some dramatic manner, you can just apply.”

“Well, they already presented the outcome option to me, but it’s like, Why force me to end my life?” says Foley."

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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [WelshinPhilly] [ In reply to ]
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WelshinPhilly wrote:


And digging G-damn fighting positions!! ;-)

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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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Yup that’s disgusting.

And you guys are now protected from ET attacking and getting revenge.

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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Suffer Well.
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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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big kahuna wrote:
"Space Marines." 'Nuff said. ;-)



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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [slowguy] [ In reply to ]
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Suffer Well.
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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [big kahuna] [ In reply to ]
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200 years from now, after Earth has a unified government, when Cadets enter the Space Force Academy dreaming of becoming Captain of the Starship Enterprise, they will know little of United States History. They'll vaguely know that Washington was the first President of a former sovereign jurisdiction on Earth and other than him they'll only know the name of Donald Trump, who founded the Space Force.

Indeed, my prediction contains an error. 200 years from now, Enterprise will have no meaning, except as a purveyor of rental shuttles. The first Starship capable of Warp Speed will be called the USS Trump.

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Re: Pentagon Will Start Creating Space Force... [H-] [ In reply to ]
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H- wrote:
200 years from now, after Earth has a unified government, when Cadets enter the Space Force Academy dreaming of becoming Captain of the Starship Enterprise, they will know little of United States History. They'll vaguely know that Washington was the first President of a former sovereign jurisdiction on Earth and other than him they'll only know the name of Donald Trump, who founded the Space Force.

Indeed, my prediction contains an error. 200 years from now, Enterprise will have no meaning, except as a purveyor of rental shuttles. The first Starship capable of Warp Speed will be called the USS Trump.


See, that's why I'll never try LSD. I'm too afraid to end up with a trip like the one you're on <shudder>


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