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Starbucks is closing 8000 cafes to do “racial tolerance training”.

Racial tolerance is an odd concept to me. It’s supposed to be a good thing. Seems like a poor choice of words to me.

“Starbucks where people of all races are welcome”.

“Whoa, slow down there sonny, welcome is a pretty strong word. I wouldn’t go that far. We merely tolerate other races”

http://business.financialpost.com/...l-tolerance-training

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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buy something.. problem solved.
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Starbucks is closing 8000 cafes to do “racial tolerance training”.

Racial tolerance is an odd concept to me. It’s supposed to be a good thing. Seems like a poor choice of words to me.

“Starbucks where people of all races are welcome”.

“Whoa, slow down there sonny, welcome is a pretty strong word. I wouldn’t go that far. We merely tolerate other races”

http://business.financialpost.com/...l-tolerance-training

A bit of an over response over an isolated incident IMHO. The guy apologized for staff. That should have been enough. PC is getting a bit ridiculous.
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BLeP wrote:
Starbucks is closing 8000 cafes to do “racial tolerance training”.

Racial tolerance is an odd concept to me. It’s supposed to be a good thing. Seems like a poor choice of words to me.

“Starbucks where people of all races are welcome”.

“Whoa, slow down there sonny, welcome is a pretty strong word. I wouldn’t go that far. We merely tolerate other races”

http://business.financialpost.com/...l-tolerance-training


A bit of an over response over an isolated incident IMHO. The guy apologized for staff. That should have been enough. PC is getting a bit ridiculous.

Agreed. I will never understand holding an entire corporation responsible for the foolish actions of a single ignorant junior manager, especially when the corporation removed the problem employee(s).

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I have never understood the term "racial tolerance," and I have been working in this area for 20 years. I agree with you, it sounds ridiculous. We don't "accept" or "embrace" or "welcome" diversity, we "tolerate" it. WTF???

If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers

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Re: Racial tolerance [spntrxi] [ In reply to ]
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Pay the wifi tax already

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I have never understood the term "racial tolerance," and I have been working in this area for 20 years. I agree with you, it sounds ridiculous. We don't "accept" or "embrace" or "welcome" diversity, we "tolerate" it. WTF???

Seems like the case of setting the bar low enough that it should easily achievable.
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JSA wrote:
I have never understood the term "racial tolerance," and I have been working in this area for 20 years. I agree with you, it sounds ridiculous. We don't "accept" or "embrace" or "welcome" diversity, we "tolerate" it. WTF???

For a trump-ballsack washing, tatted up lawyer-type, every once in a while you say something that is pretty intelligent. Tolerance my ass.... tolerance does not equal acceptance, respectfulness, or any of those other things that we expect of each other in a civilized society. It's a ridiculously low bar, not something that one should aspire to. You should already be there.

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Re: Racial tolerance [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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It's almost certainly an anachronistic holdover from the civil rights era, where tolerance was a reasonable standard to aim for. We just haven't updated our file, or paid enough attention to the language to make the change.

I mean, people still think it's rude to not say "god bless you" after they sneeze. We're not so good at paying attention to the meaning of words and why we use them. We're just creatures of habit.

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It's almost certainly an anachronistic holdover from the civil rights era, where tolerance was a reasonable standard to aim for. We just haven't updated our file, or paid enough attention to the language.

That’s what I was thinking, basically you don’t have to like them but legally you need to tolerate them.
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if Starbucks has figured out an impactful way to educate ppl on racial bias in a single afternoon I hope they share their notes with the police
@PiaGlenn

I'm beginning to think that we are much more fucked than I thought.
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if Starbucks has figured out an impactful way to educate ppl on racial bias in a single afternoon I hope they share their notes with the police
@PiaGlenn

They aren't educating people on racial bias. They are showing people how to tolerate "those people".

How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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I thought it was called "sensitivity training" now?




Last edited by: WelshinPhilly: Apr 18, 18 7:02
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Re: Racial tolerance [JSA] [ In reply to ]
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cerveloguy wrote:
BLeP wrote:
Starbucks is closing 8000 cafes to do “racial tolerance training”.

Racial tolerance is an odd concept to me. It’s supposed to be a good thing. Seems like a poor choice of words to me.

“Starbucks where people of all races are welcome”.

“Whoa, slow down there sonny, welcome is a pretty strong word. I wouldn’t go that far. We merely tolerate other races”

http://business.financialpost.com/...l-tolerance-training


A bit of an over response over an isolated incident IMHO. The guy apologized for staff. That should have been enough. PC is getting a bit ridiculous.

Agreed. I will never understand holding an entire corporation responsible for the foolish actions of a single ignorant junior manager, especially when the corporation removed the problem employee(s).

Not only that, but Starbucks has been ahead of the left-wing curve in preaching and celebrating diversity in most aspects of their business for years. I worked there briefly in college and was struck by how much of their staff training was dedicated to things like racial tolerance. That was 14 years ago, before diversity for diversity's sake was "cool".

A SJW friend of mine commented on FB that while the closure of 8000 stores was a step in the right direction, that Starbucks should have been providing this training before hand to avoid such situations. If ever there was a comment that deserved a "wow. Just wow."...

Long Chile was a silly place.
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Re: Racial tolerance [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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JSA wrote:
I have never understood the term "racial tolerance," and I have been working in this area for 20 years. I agree with you, it sounds ridiculous. We don't "accept" or "embrace" or "welcome" diversity, we "tolerate" it. WTF???

For a trump-ballsack washing, tatted up lawyer-type, every once in a while you say something that is pretty intelligent. Tolerance my ass.... tolerance does not equal acceptance, respectfulness, or any of those other things that we expect of each other in a civilized society. It's a ridiculously low bar, not something that one should aspire to. You should already be there.

Watch it buddy, you're lucky we tolerate you around here! :-)

Long Chile was a silly place.
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Re: Racial tolerance [cerveloguy] [ In reply to ]
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cerveloguy wrote:
BLeP wrote:
Starbucks is closing 8000 cafes to do “racial tolerance training”.


Racial tolerance is an odd concept to me. It’s supposed to be a good thing. Seems like a poor choice of words to me.

“Starbucks where people of all races are welcome”.

“Whoa, slow down there sonny, welcome is a pretty strong word. I wouldn’t go that far. We merely tolerate other races”

http://business.financialpost.com/...l-tolerance-training


A bit of an over response over an isolated incident IMHO. The guy apologized for staff. That should have been enough. PC is getting a bit ridiculous.


My issue is the way the media uses this incident to get to a "chicken little the sky is falling" moment. This is a direct quote on the cover of today's online Washington Post:

The scene of two black men in handcuffs being led out of a Philadelphia shop by police last week delivered a reminder of pervasive bias that can affect even the most mundane activities, such as meeting someone for a coffee.


If this type of bias is so pervasive then why is this kind of thing even news?

I guess the insideous logic here is that as long as the behavior is considered bad, what's the harm in overstating its "pervasiveness"? And, actually, I could agree with that kind of logic if this was an issue that wasn't getting any attention. But we all know that isn't true. Now the overstating is becoming just the worst type of provocative fiction.
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Re: Racial tolerance [BCtriguy1] [ In reply to ]
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BCtriguy1 wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
JSA wrote:
I have never understood the term "racial tolerance," and I have been working in this area for 20 years. I agree with you, it sounds ridiculous. We don't "accept" or "embrace" or "welcome" diversity, we "tolerate" it. WTF???


For a trump-ballsack washing, tatted up lawyer-type, every once in a while you say something that is pretty intelligent. Tolerance my ass.... tolerance does not equal acceptance, respectfulness, or any of those other things that we expect of each other in a civilized society. It's a ridiculously low bar, not something that one should aspire to. You should already be there.


Watch it buddy, you're lucky we tolerate you around here! :-)

I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.

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Re: Racial tolerance [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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JasoninHalifax wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
JSA wrote:
I have never understood the term "racial tolerance," and I have been working in this area for 20 years. I agree with you, it sounds ridiculous. We don't "accept" or "embrace" or "welcome" diversity, we "tolerate" it. WTF???


For a trump-ballsack washing, tatted up lawyer-type, every once in a while you say something that is pretty intelligent. Tolerance my ass.... tolerance does not equal acceptance, respectfulness, or any of those other things that we expect of each other in a civilized society. It's a ridiculously low bar, not something that one should aspire to. You should already be there.


Watch it buddy, you're lucky we tolerate you around here! :-)


I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.




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JSA wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
JSA wrote:
I have never understood the term "racial tolerance," and I have been working in this area for 20 years. I agree with you, it sounds ridiculous. We don't "accept" or "embrace" or "welcome" diversity, we "tolerate" it. WTF???


For a trump-ballsack washing, tatted up lawyer-type, every once in a while you say something that is pretty intelligent. Tolerance my ass.... tolerance does not equal acceptance, respectfulness, or any of those other things that we expect of each other in a civilized society. It's a ridiculously low bar, not something that one should aspire to. You should already be there.


Watch it buddy, you're lucky we tolerate you around here! :-)


I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.




Are you correcting Tolkien? Seriously?

heathen.

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Re: Racial tolerance [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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JasoninHalifax wrote:
JSA wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
JSA wrote:
I have never understood the term "racial tolerance," and I have been working in this area for 20 years. I agree with you, it sounds ridiculous. We don't "accept" or "embrace" or "welcome" diversity, we "tolerate" it. WTF???


For a trump-ballsack washing, tatted up lawyer-type, every once in a while you say something that is pretty intelligent. Tolerance my ass.... tolerance does not equal acceptance, respectfulness, or any of those other things that we expect of each other in a civilized society. It's a ridiculously low bar, not something that one should aspire to. You should already be there.


Watch it buddy, you're lucky we tolerate you around here! :-)


I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.





Are you correcting Tolkien? Seriously?

heathen.




If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers

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JSA wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
JSA wrote:
I have never understood the term "racial tolerance," and I have been working in this area for 20 years. I agree with you, it sounds ridiculous. We don't "accept" or "embrace" or "welcome" diversity, we "tolerate" it. WTF???


For a trump-ballsack washing, tatted up lawyer-type, every once in a while you say something that is pretty intelligent. Tolerance my ass.... tolerance does not equal acceptance, respectfulness, or any of those other things that we expect of each other in a civilized society. It's a ridiculously low bar, not something that one should aspire to. You should already be there.


Watch it buddy, you're lucky we tolerate you around here! :-)


I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.




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How does Danny Hart sit down with balls that big?
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Re: Racial tolerance [BLeP] [ In reply to ]
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BLeP wrote:
JSA wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
JSA wrote:
I have never understood the term "racial tolerance," and I have been working in this area for 20 years. I agree with you, it sounds ridiculous. We don't "accept" or "embrace" or "welcome" diversity, we "tolerate" it. WTF???


For a trump-ballsack washing, tatted up lawyer-type, every once in a while you say something that is pretty intelligent. Tolerance my ass.... tolerance does not equal acceptance, respectfulness, or any of those other things that we expect of each other in a civilized society. It's a ridiculously low bar, not something that one should aspire to. You should already be there.


Watch it buddy, you're lucky we tolerate you around here! :-)


I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.





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Re: Racial tolerance [SH] [ In reply to ]
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SH wrote:
cerveloguy wrote:
BLeP wrote:
Starbucks is closing 8000 cafes to do “racial tolerance training”.


Racial tolerance is an odd concept to me. It’s supposed to be a good thing. Seems like a poor choice of words to me.

“Starbucks where people of all races are welcome”.

“Whoa, slow down there sonny, welcome is a pretty strong word. I wouldn’t go that far. We merely tolerate other races”

http://business.financialpost.com/...l-tolerance-training


A bit of an over response over an isolated incident IMHO. The guy apologized for staff. That should have been enough. PC is getting a bit ridiculous.


My issue is the way the media uses this incident to get to a "chicken little the sky is falling" moment. This is a direct quote on the cover of today's online Washington Post:

The scene of two black men in handcuffs being led out of a Philadelphia shop by police last week delivered a reminder of pervasive bias that can affect even the most mundane activities, such as meeting someone for a coffee.


If this type of bias is so pervasive then why is this kind of thing even news?

I guess the insideous logic here is that as long as the behavior is considered bad, what's the harm in overstating its "pervasiveness"? And, actually, I could agree with that kind of logic if this was an issue that wasn't getting any attention. But we all know that isn't true. Now the overstating is becoming just the worst type of provocative fiction.

Because the bias doesn't normally result in the extreme level of there being arrests. It's the bias that's pervasive, not the men being led out of Starbucks in handcuffs.
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buy something.. problem solved.

No sir, the problem isn't solved by buying something.
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Re: Racial tolerance [JasoninHalifax] [ In reply to ]
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JasoninHalifax wrote:
BLeP wrote:
JSA wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
BCtriguy1 wrote:
JasoninHalifax wrote:
JSA wrote:
I have never understood the term "racial tolerance," and I have been working in this area for 20 years. I agree with you, it sounds ridiculous. We don't "accept" or "embrace" or "welcome" diversity, we "tolerate" it. WTF???


For a trump-ballsack washing, tatted up lawyer-type, every once in a while you say something that is pretty intelligent. Tolerance my ass.... tolerance does not equal acceptance, respectfulness, or any of those other things that we expect of each other in a civilized society. It's a ridiculously low bar, not something that one should aspire to. You should already be there.


Watch it buddy, you're lucky we tolerate you around here! :-)


I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.





"Cart blanc" - JSA


JSA only speaks Freedom.

That's exactly what I was going to say! Thank you!

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