I'm sure we'll hear his buddy Hannity defending it one way or the other.


But, really, how does a functional member of society ever arrive at the conclusion that this is something they should post?


http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/20/dinesh-dsouza-tweet/

I'm sure we'll hear his buddy Hannity defending it one way or the other.


But, really, how does a functional member of society ever arrive at the conclusion that this is something they should post?


http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/20/dinesh-dsouza-tweet/

It's a bit like standing over the shattered remains of an opponent and celebrating his death.

I'm sort of done with the whole "used them as pawns" line of attack.

Do you, or anyone, think these kids are being duped? They just lived through an unimaginable massacre, carried out with a weapon that really serves no other functional purpose, and they're doing the only thing within their power to try to spare other kids from the same fate.

You don't get political change without political allies who share your opinion. That's just the way it works in our system. Let's not discredit them, and ourselves, by dismissing them as pawns.

that's pretty slime-bag low, low enough it makes me wonder about bots, given that the NYT had an article that covered Russian bots putting out incendiary stuff, for either side in the gun debate, within an hour after the shooting took place.

disagree on this point - these teens aren't his opponents. i'm with you on the importance of what we could broadly call 'sportsmanship,' or 'gentlemanlyness,' and its importance in the public sphere. but in this case they're innocent bystanders, basically, who suffered through a brutal and traumatic experience, and he's targeting them specifically for derision rather than addressing the issues.

I'm quite focused, thanks. Mostly, on the larger point that, it seems, literally anything said or done is excusable now in the Trump era, so long as one perceives the underlying premise to be correct.

At some point it's worth holding the enablers accountable.

Until then, stay focused.

It's sort of like child survivors of attempted abortion, people with Downs Syndrome, children born from rape, etc. Do they not have a voice in the pro-life movement, or are they just being used as pawns by cynical politicians?

I appreciate your last post. It's easy to view all of this through a cynical lens, but man, we really need to try keep our humanity in the forefront in times like these.

You don't think it was a stunt on the part of the anti-gun lobby to bring them up to Tallahassee in the first place?

Read the title of the thread, if you're still unclear as to what point I was making. Show me where conservative outlets are blasting him for this garbage. Otherwise, how about you worry about you, and I'll worry about me.

https://www.thewrap.com/...-shooting-survivors/

https://www.redstate.com/...eaker-dinesh-dsouza/

CPAC..."His comments are indefensible."

This, from your second link, speaks to the thread title:

"Trumpism often results in a loss of tact mirroring the demeanor of patient zero, Trump himself."

No, no, and no.

I live in a world where individuals are responsible for their own actions. Regardless of environment, social pressures, and "isms", an individual is the actor and the one who ultimately decides to do or not do something.

Including other factors in the Dsouza discussion:

1. Lessens the responsibility on Dsouza for having taken this action
2. Ascribes responsibility to others for actions Dsouza alone has taken
3. Allows intellectually dishonest and disingenuous attacks on those not related to the incident at hand

People have said disgusting things since the beginning of time. We've blamed Glenn Beck for "rhetoric". We've blamed Bill Clinton for normalizing infidelity. We've blamed rock music, movies, and video games for violence and suicide.

We blame everyone but the individual.

Trump has done and said some awful things. Full stop.

Dsouza is a grown man capable of making his own decisions. He, and he alone, should bear full responsibility for these ridiculous statements. Let's not let him off the hook even a little bit by linking others to it.

Good for them. Also, see above.

It's not TDS talking, to acknowledge that Trump has uniquely coarsened the language of our political discourse in ways our generation hasn't seen from a candidate or President, and that the party in power has found itself in the uncomfortable position of having to either ignore it or spin the indefensible, time and again.