Thanks for the quick response! Do you have a pictures or information on the fit is on an IA? I've searched and can't seem to find any pictures of it.

Sure. Here ya go.[/url][/img]

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Hans Bielat
TorHans LLC Co-Founder, Owner, Chief Innovation Officer
http://www.torhans.com

Thanks for the reply. That's a great looking bike!!! I think I will give the frame bottle a try when my IA arrives.

I bought one and thought it fit poorly on a P2C. Ended up using the specialized virtue bottle that fit much better.

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What size do you have? I have a 51 and the Torhans frame bottle won't fit. I'm using the Profile Design RZ2.

Mark

Do you recommend the felt or universal mount for an IA?

Thanks again for all the help on this!

I do know either will work on it. We do now carry the Felt specific units. I don't believe they are on our website yet but I know we do have a limited number now. Or you can have your dealer contact us and we can get one out if you do want the Felt specific. Again, this is the unit for the DA. There is not as of yet an IA specific aero bottle/holder.
Cheers

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Hans Bielat
TorHans LLC Co-Founder, Owner, Chief Innovation Officer
http://www.torhans.com

When will the felt specific bottles be on the Torhans website?

thanks

Do you have one for the Felt AR, or would it be the same as for the DA?

They should be up within the next day or two

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Hans Bielat
TorHans LLC Co-Founder, Owner, Chief Innovation Officer
http://www.torhans.com

The one for the DA should be a good fit for the AR

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Hans Bielat
TorHans LLC Co-Founder, Owner, Chief Innovation Officer
http://www.torhans.com

For a 2013 B16, would I need the Felt VR bottle or would the standard VR work? Thanks

Go with the Felt Vr. It is on our site now + 25% off for Black Friday. Code gobble2014

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Hans Bielat
TorHans LLC Co-Founder, Owner, Chief Innovation Officer
http://www.torhans.com

Does the discount also count for the Felt livery specific VR bottle? Where to order with the coupon?

Yes.

http://www.torhans.com select shop

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Hans Bielat
TorHans LLC Co-Founder, Owner, Chief Innovation Officer
http://www.torhans.com

I get an error :(

http://www.feltbicycles.com/...tem-by-TorHans-.aspx

Go to http://www.torhans.com. Not Felt.

Cheers

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Hans Bielat
TorHans LLC Co-Founder, Owner, Chief Innovation Officer
http://www.torhans.com

Lol, my fault :) Thanks

Does the VR actually help with aero properties of some frames, or is it just that it doesn't add as much drag as regular bottles? I'm debating mine, as I don't use often for fluids...but if it enhances aero on my Triad SL I could use it for spare? Otherwise my flat kit can be hidden elsewhere..Thanks for advice.

Oops. I hope I didn't just order the wrong product. I have a DA2. I just ordered your Aero30 with the bottle and tray. Re-reading your comments, it sounds like I should have ordered a specific "DA frame mount/bottle?"

Should I cancel my order or will the product fit on my DA2?

Thanks for your time.

Hey Lutzman,

Two different products. The Aero 30 will work great with your DA and even make it faster as it blends nicely into the headtube. If you want a frame bottle go with the Felt Vr on our website....and get even more faster.

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Hans Bielat
TorHans LLC Co-Founder, Owner, Chief Innovation Officer
http://www.torhans.com

Hey ggeiger,

To answer your question...some frames it is as much as a 20 gram/2 watt reduction over no bottles at all.. On the Blue Triad this is the case as I actually have that data. For some frames it may be negative to neutral. But it will ALWAYS perform better than a standard cylinder bottle. We have seen standard bottles on the seat tube on some slippery frames with as high as 140 gram/14 watt drag increases over no bottles at all. Keep round objects off your frame. If you need to carry a standard bottle, horizontally behind the seat is the way to go.

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Hans Bielat
TorHans LLC Co-Founder, Owner, Chief Innovation Officer
http://www.torhans.com

Hi Hans,
The only frame vr I could get over here in Germany was the da one, which works on my b10 but left kinda gap on the top. Anyhow.... Thinking bout your discount offer to get the aero 30 w/mount and the regular aero kit BUT would like to get that with the black bottle. Is there any option to choose? Didn't found any on your side.best wishes

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-shoki

Thanks for the response Hans. .

Thanks so much Hans. So I should keep that there regardless it seems. I have snugged it as low on the seat tube as I can by redrilling the holes, and it seems to sit very close to both tubes. Because of the aerobar setup I have, I can't get the aero 30 real close to the headtube, so should probably go another direction (BTA) for fluids up front.

Thanks for all of the help, and I always appreciate opinions on my best setup. Old and looking for watts.....