Joe C. wrote:
Well that's more apropos. Jerry Lee Lewis didn't murder anyone but his career cratered when the public learned he had married his 13 year old third cousin. He claimed he didn't realize it would be a scandal. And around that time a 24 year old Elvis took up with a 14 year old named Priscilla.
I forgot about the whole Elvis thing, now that does open a whole can of worms as he was obviously even bigger than my gaff over Johnny Cash and not to mention Michael Jackson in more recent times.
I'm not highjacking the thread about other people or trying to deflect from BS and I will address my specific thoughts on him in the questions below but I'd like to address the questions below to
Ynot, Pick6, Nab777, Tttilyheed, Camaleon, Trigirrrl, BDoughtie, TravisT and everyone else that has expressed very strong anti Sutton views and challange you to answer them honestly. I bet that half od you don't reply or come up with something to deflect answering. And please don't tell me Elvis was in a different time and underage girls didn't go to his concert. My cousin saw him multiple times 3 times underage, twice unchaperoned by an adult so if anyone had access to mnors and expressed his sexuality towards them and created an adultation culture 100 more powerful than Sutton's it would be Elvis. So my questions along with my own answers in respect to Sutton are:
1. Have any of you ever got up and made some moves to an Elvis number at a party or own and Elvis music in your collection? Wouldn't this be considered supporting him in light of what he did?
I have never been coached by Brett Sutton and have never purchased anything connected with him but if I was given the chance to do a training camp with him I certainly would. 2. Do you consider that Elvis carried out statutory rape and do you go shouting off about it every time that Elvis' name comes up?
As the legal term applies then yes I think Sutton carried out statutory rape. Some duristictions don't actually use that term but use terms like interfering with a minor or sex with an underage person. For me personally I admit I don't like the temr rape in this context. I know 4 women who have been raped at some point in their and life and many more who had sex underage (UK is the world capital of teen pregnancy - I accept the vast majority is not with 27 year old men though) and the phychological trauma for a rape that involves forced sex and is often violent is far greater than a 14 year who at least thinks she is participating willingly. Yes I know what some of you are going to shout but no I absolutely do not thing it is ok what Sutton did. 3. Do you think that Elvis should never have been allowed to perfom after raping Pracilla multiple times over many years given that this gave him access to far more minors than Sutton could ever have and given his overt sexuality towards his audience? Should he have been forced to only record behind closed doors?
I have stated many times in this thread that I don't think Sutton should be coaching minors, full stop. The fact his team has a junior squad and he coaches the then pass on his expertise to them no I don't have an issue with this nor him being in a team photo that happened to have (allegedly) a 16 year old girl in it 4. Was Elvis a paedophile?
If someone in thier 20's told me that had a 13/14 sexual partner I would sure as hell call them a paedophile so yes Sutton is a paedophile 5. Should Elvis have been jailed\punished for what he did instead of becoming an national hero still celebrated to this day?
Absolutely Sutton should have been punished but not to my or any of our liking but to the laws that apply in the country where it happened and that is what happened. He served his punishment and is moving on with life Ok I could go on with questions, you get the idea. If your answers about Elvis are different for how you would answer about Elvis why is that? Would this not make you question your own motives and judgement capability? Is this not exactly why we have legal systems to deal with all kinds of cases? If your feelings about Elvis are different from Sutton's do you think you are a hypocrite?
I am genuinely interested to see who answers these honestly but prepared to sit back and enjoy the deathly silence I suspect from most of you and for that I will call you cowards