I bought some football jerseys off this site. There is no difference between the "authentic" Nike jerseys and the ones sold on this site, however I don't know if the same would go for the zipps.

So, in all likelihood they're not 808s......they're FAKE-08's. I've never ordered via DHGate so I can't be sure - but it seems quite obvious you're paying for what looks like an 808.

Just like a woman buying a fake Gucci purse - it may well LOOK like the real thing at first glance. But dig deeper and you may find some discrepancy - in form and function.

Most likely, but there is only one way we can find out. I think you should buy a set and let us all know... :)

They're just the same open mold carbon clinchers being sold super cheap on the internet with zipp stickers slapped on them.

This has the potential to be 100% legit. I purchase and trade with many over seas clients. Sometimes the products are 100% OEM products. For example with certain electronics I can purchase 30-40% of what i can purchase in the USA from my vendors. Exact same products shipped from the exact same address. The only difference is the box and branding. I am not saying these are legit and likely do not have the Zipp Manufacturer's warranty. Best thing to do is email/call the vendor and get a model number and serial number. Then call Zipp with that info and say you just purchased them.

For example I know of a "fairy" that can purchase genuine Shimano Di2 from about $1,120.00 USD with a genuine Shimano serial number and warranty :)
Fuji and Trek frames the same way :)

You can tell from the closeup photos that they aren't OEM Zipps. No dimples.

Yes those are not! But yes you can find Zipp Firecrest 808 on the grey market! If you know where to look you can find them for about 20-25% cheaper than dealer costs

I got these from Farsports about two weeks ago and rode them a couple times without the cover. I got the wheel cover yesterday, just finished putting it on and I'm going to ride as soon as things dry up outside;




Here's my ten year old bike with my cheap wheels

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I love Kestrel's :)

how much did you pay and please let us know how you like them.

I didn't get in the ride today. Just as I was going out the door another storm was rolling in. So I ran for 42 minutes and finished just as the rain came down. I'll do a ride in the morning and report back. I chose Farsports; http://www.farsports.cn/ViewProduct.aspx?id=731 because their rims have a basalt breaking surface and the advertised weight is better than the other 88mm wheels. Mine came in at 1790g and the cut down wheel cover is 270g. My center pull front/ side pull rear Campy brakes work better with the supplied brake pads on the basalt surface than they did with the standard pads on alu. The brake track is 21mm wide so I guess you could call these semi-wide. With the 88mm rims front and rear the front end got light when I was passed by a truck going 40 mph downhill but no worse than the old Spinergy RevX wheels used to be. I expect the wheel cover to add stability in the wind. I'll let you know tomorrow. The wheels surprised me by being good climbers; with reasonably light wieght and deep wheel aerodynamics I went up one of my regular hills faster than ever.

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I have a set of the RevX - I still like the old school look. Some of the people that see them when I need an occassional old school moment and decide to rock them would actually pay me more than I paid almost 10 years ago....... They look cool but I don't trust them over 35 mph....

The hubs are novatec on those fake zipp from taiwan so far from being real zipp.

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Took them out today. It was nice. It was fast. It was a perfect disc day; I rode east and west on the Long Island Expressway service road and the wind was from the north west, strong at times, variable and blustery. The bike was fine, it would lean sometimes and drift sometimes but it was a controllable fast (for me right now) ride. I did this same ride twice last week, first time with regular road wheels and tires and regular road helmet at 17.5 average speed, the next day I did it with the new wheels, Mich Pro3 tires and latex tubes and a LG aero helmet at 17.8. Today I added the disc cover and again with the aero helmet and the wind at 18.2. The wind always makes a disc wheel ride faster but if the bike was unstable I would have been slower.

My old race wheels were an 808 front and a Renn Medeara disc, both tubular. I didn't feel any appreciable difference in the handling or ride between my new budget set-up and my old one.

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What's the story on the basalt braking surface? Do you use pads for aluminum brake track or carbon brake track?

"What's the story on the basalt braking surface?"

I don't know. I read in the huge thread on RoadBikeReview.com that it worked, and it does. As I wrote above, the Campy brakes work better on the carbon wheels than the aluminum.

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Yeah I had never seen them either. I did some searching through the threads and haven't seen any comments on the aluminum clinchers with carbon fairings. I'd like to lace a PT into one, but I'd like to see if anyone has bought a pair of these before I give them a shot.

I'm quite interested in this as well. I'd really like a pair of C2 Jet 6's with PowerTap, but can't justify the $. I would have purchased a set of the Flo's, but they don't have a rim compatible with a PowerTap, and since they use a fairing (as does HED), the spoke hole location in the fairing is slightly different for the taller PowerTap hub flange. I just had a chat session with Yoeleo, and these are not fairings, the carbon is structural and supports the spoke nipple as on older Zipps. So no issue to lace in a PowerTap. However, these are only 20mm wide, and if I'm gonna buy new wheels, I'd really like to try the wider rims.

Has anybody seen any wider Chinese aluminum/carbon rims?

Brian

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Gonna buy a fast car, put on my lead boots, take a long, long drive
I may end up spending all my money, but I'll still be alive

Seems like Farsport has some on their website

Do the brake pads line up with the brake track? I found one of those RBR threads and the guy's pads won't go low enough on the caliper to actually hit the designated brake track.

Yes, the brake pads line up and they are about in the center of the adjustment. I wouldn't be saying how great they worked if they didn't.

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Flo looks a great deal! Are these Chinese? Would you recommend them? Thank.

Anyone know anything about Yishun Bike? http://www.yishunbike.com/

They have some good prices, not listed on their site, but i emailed them and got prices.

They appear to be a manufacturer for other companies as well, they offered to have my company logo put on the wheel, and while they do sell individual sets, they seemed more accustomed to larger orders.

I'm wondering if they aren't making some carbon wheels for a big company and then selling some on their own as well.

Well known good company. Check velobuild.com for more info.

I wanted to follow up. I used these wheels a few times and after a race noticed the rim had cracked at the braking surface and the other wheel had developed a bulge in the sidewall. I contacted the seller and began this tedious process of sending pictures, waiting for days, sending more pictures, etc. etc. I finally sent them back to China and they sent me a warranty pair that I sold immediately.

I think for a TT / Tri rider these would be a decent bargain. For training day to day or road / crit racing, I don't think they are a great option. I'm back to plain old metal wheels.

Spinergy 4-bladed wheels anyone? Even the bigger names have issues.

I've been doing a bit of reading on chinese wheels and frames 'cause as much as I'd love a pair of Zipps, I'm broker'n all get out. I've heard of zero issues with the wheels, 1 with the hubs, and none with the frames. YMMV of course.

http://www.velobuild.com or the chinese threads on http://www.roadbikereview.com are your best sources of info on this subject.

Note of caution about alibaba: there's lots of scammers that post there. If you stick with one of the bigger names (Farsports, Hongfu, Dengfu, et al) you *should* be fine.

HTH

M

 
Thanks for the reminder. I had an e-mail exchange with Yishun at the end of March, and they indicated they had 44mm deep carbon/aluminum rims with wide brake tracks, but when I asked for pricing I never got a response. I just re-replied, we'll see. This seems the only possibility out there, everything else is either a fairing or full carbon or sold as complete wheels only.

Brian

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Gonna buy a fast car, put on my lead boots, take a long, long drive
I may end up spending all my money, but I'll still be alive