My seat is angled down and I don't slide forward. When it creates a pressure point on my taint and makes my nuts hurt. The guy who did my vasectomy said I had hanging boys. Anyway, it's very comfy angled down.

Looks nice, looks adjustable, probably will allow a lot of people to have a lot of different bottle placements, and may even work well for a few. At the end of the day, all of the positions allowed by this carrier are terrible. Take a lesson from Torbjorn and hide the damned things behind the seat in an almost-level configuration. I suspect a few extra holes drilled in this apparatus could do the trick.

Chris

No...that's mounted on the right side of the rig. I want a single cage, mounted so it straddles the centerline of the bike....much like a downtube-mounted cage.

There is a single bottle Minoura that works very well in this application, but you have to bend it a fair amount to get it tucked up behind the seat just right. I have had the best luck with mounting a nice sturdy cage to it first, and then giving it a few nudges in the right direction. The tacx is a more versatile unit and can hold 1 or 2 bottles, but takes a bit more modification to get just right. It can definitely be done with a small dremel though and doesn't take that long.

Chris

I second the Tacx-dremel setup, I've love it so far on my P2C and it was really cheap, like less than $30. When I'm riding it is right up against my butt and saddle. But I just carry a tube, CO2, tire lever, etc in that bottle. No hydration. If I race tubulars I take it off entirely.

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Any chance you can show a pic of the "dremel" setup, or provide more detail? I had a Tacx before and it kept sliding down with the weight of full bottles... But for $17 I may give it another go. Thanks

Have a look at a better shot in this thread: here

about halfway down the first page...

It's easier for me to direct you to jonnyo's post/pic of the setup on a P3C. He describes how it's done in the post which is almost exactly how I did it as well. But to make it work you have to have one of the newer generation Cervelo seat posts with the holes or drill your own holes (which I've never done so I can't recommend trying unless you have extras lying around).


http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...cx%20dremel;#1803605

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That is a very nice, efficient, lightweight set-up. Nice bottle placement too- close and likely reasonably aero. Excellent improvisational engineering.

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you mean this?
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ring=p3c%20;#1282282

just posted it in April...2007 ;-)

if I could come up with it and do it myself, everyone can do it, because I have zero bike mech skills

Exactly, I had seen your pictures too and used those when I was working on my own. Unfortunately, when I searched for 'tacx dremel' in this forum I only got jonnyo's post, not yours.

But I agree, this is probably one of the easiest DIY mods out there. It seriously took me less than 10 minutes to complete.

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I want it renamed dammit! I'd never actually invented something (besides math junk)!

(HINT: You just have to edit that post and add the word dremel and you'll be set) :)

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done!

The picture with the white bracket looks like Craig just copied Beaker Concepts Hydrotail???

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I like my new Felt hydration rig better:

Before going any further, I want to make it clear that, as an XLAB employee, I have a biased opinion about the two products in question :) . That said, there seems to be some misconceptions about the Sonic Wing, as demonstrated by the quote above. I realize I'm a little late to this thread, but I wanted to point out a few things that set our Sonic Wing apart from the Beaker product. To start, here's a photo of the two products side by side to make it easier to see what I'll be talking about below.
The XLAB Sonic Wing is on the left, the Beaker Concepts H5C is on the right:



The main differences I'd like to emphasize are
-The H5C has one set of mounting holes, giving you two possible positions to mount the system to the seat post, as shown and also inverted. The Sonic Wing has 3 sets of mounting holes, giving you 6 possible positions, 3 up and 3 down.
-The H5C has one set of water bottle cage mounting holes, while the Sonic Wing has five sets.
-When you multiply the number of wing mounting positions by the number of bottle cage mounting positions and then double that number to account for the normal and inverted positions, you get the number of possible bottle cage locations relative to the saddle, in this case 2 for the H5C, and 30 for the Sonic Wing. There is simply no comparison, the Sonic Wing gives you many more options to fine-tune your hydration system to your personal preference.
-Both products include straps for carrying a spare tire. The H5C straps are centered between the bottle cages, leaving no room for additional accessories, while the Sonic Wing straps are slightly offset to one side (unfortunately not shown above), allowing room for the Sonic Nut to be installed as an easily accessible way to mount CO2 cartridges and inflater. With the Sonic Wing you are not limited to one or the other, you can carry a spare and still have your inflation tools handy.

All of this should make it clear that the Sonic Wing is anything but a "copy" of any Beaker product. Hopefully this clears things up a bit.

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I got the tire bag for training rides. Is there a secret how to strap it to the sonic wing? The buckles on the straps do not fit through the holes on the sonic wing. I had to unthread them and then rethread it though the buckles. Is there an easier way because now when I take the bag off for races I have to go through the same process.

THanks

By the way I like the new products.

Any new opinions or comments about this system? I'm thinking of getting this for my P2C.

Where is the website that sells the decals on it with your name and American flag? Tim

Haha SoJo! I like the bike