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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [Paulo] [ In reply to ]
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Seems to me there might be enough interest on ST to get the company going. You might want to see how many investors you can raise here.
That's more or less the business plan for the 101 series... ;-)

For sure the funding is not the problem, a proper business plan and people to execute it is. Send me the latter, and I will provide the former.


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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [NYSLIM] [ In reply to ]
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Some how I don't think that was in the company mission statement. Good find Slim, I think Mr. Tarkanian now has a new rival. We will chat again, have to run. Get that bike sold.
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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [NYSLIM] [ In reply to ]
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I have a 2004 Softride TT7, size medium with only 800 miles on it for sale if you are interested.
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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [docfuel] [ In reply to ]
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When my Softie dies I guess I'll be back on a double diamond. Ugh!

I trained and raced on a Softride for years when I was sponsored by them back in the early 90's. Had some of my best races ever on a Softride. However, that is the hardest part of owning a Softride - going back to a regular bike! ANYTHING seems harsh. Took me a while to get comfortable again on a classic double diammond bike after that.


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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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That's what I'm worried about. I do 5.5 hour rides in aero leading up to long races and NO PROBLEM. I might have to go with a TF next. (Suspension seat post??????)

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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [NYSLIM] [ In reply to ]
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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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Why did you go back to a regular bike if the SR provide some of your best races?

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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [h2ofun] [ In reply to ]
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Why did you go back to a regular bike if the SR provide some of your best races?

It's a long story, but the short version is my sponsorship with Softride ended and that was the same year that a small bike company was started up by a friend of mine in Toronto. You may have heard of it - they called it Cervelo :)

So I got a Cervelo!


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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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Smile

So, is it fair to say that for most folks, its the engine, so if one can get "free" bikes, then one follows the money?

(Not taking anything away from Cervelo)

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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [h2ofun] [ In reply to ]
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So, is it fair to say that for most folks, its the engine, so if one can get "free" bikes, then one follows the money?

Dave,

Come on! Shhhhh . . You are going to give away the dirty little secret! :)

It's funny. When I got my Cervelo, no one had heard of them. I went and did a triathlon last summer for fun and almost EVERY bike in the 45 - 49 rack was . . . . a Cervelo!


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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [NYSLIM] [ In reply to ]
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I've seen a pic of an all carbon new Softride. It's 1 kg lighter than the previous top model. I've also been emailed some information concerning the new bike. I need to email the person who sent me this info to see if its ok to post here.

So if it's ok with them I'll post pics and other info then.

If someone can explain how I go about getting the pics posted on the forum I'll do that when approval is acquired. I know I have to put the photo on
one of those websites that hosts photos. Which one?

ShaRRky
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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [Fleck] [ In reply to ]
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Now, thats fun.

I have to admit, I love to be different, surprise, so I love going to races with my Yaqui,
or putting a picture on ST, and having the clicks attack my bike. Oh well, if it were
just about all the folks in my AG with Cervelo's, I guess they all should have beat me. Smile

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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [ShaRRky] [ In reply to ]
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I highly doubt it is a new model. Softride made a few carbon bikes back in the day, but they had problems (I believe it was called the Powerwing) and hence they switched the aluminum bikes.

And being that Softride is no longer producing bikes, it seems improbable that it is a new design. Probably one of the older carbon models. I'd like to see it, however!




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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [zone2] [ In reply to ]
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It was called the "Power V" The Power wing was Alu with a carbon or Alu beam. Power V was a GREAT bike.

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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [bunnyman] [ In reply to ]
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ahh...the mid 90's....where tri's consisted of many bikes you've never heard of, and then there were:

Softride,
Kestrel,
Zipp,
QR,
....and my trusty first tri bike the Scott Waimea (ala '96?).

I did a race in Florida in about '98/'99 (The Florida Challenge 1/2 IM, that I think is now something like a Claremont race) where I swear to ST that 70% of the bikes in transition were Softrides. Originally being from Chicago area, I had seen an occasional Softride for my first 4-5 years of racing, but not an complete transition area.

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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [Craigster] [ In reply to ]
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I did a USCF stage race in Bellingham (Softride HQ at the time) one weekend many years ago as a Cat 4. Coming into the crit on Sunday, I was in 2nd overall (on a Paul Barkley Softride -- Paul Barkley made many of the first generation frames marketed with the Softride name on them, but mine was branded with his decals), and the guy in 1st was riding a Power-V. You should have heard the announcer.

"Here comes XXX (sorry, don't remember the guy's name) on a Softride. Oh, and here's DT, ALSO on a Softride. What a bicycle!"

My team mates gave a full ration of crap about that...

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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [NYSLIM] [ In reply to ]
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OK, ask and yea shall receive. Below is some email conversions about this new frame.

“note just over 1.5kgs but will get to 1.2kgs
(1kg liter than top model Softy & 1.3kg than the classics)
once proper moulds made up also this frame has been beefed up
so it is extra strong for riders up to 100kgs “

“note the frame will debut @ Hawaii IM & be selling by end of year”

Not sure if Hawaii will be the debut. I’ve read that it’s already been raced by someone, not sure if
They qualified for Hawaii though.

“I rode the new Attack frame for the first time just 2 days pre half IM
19/8/07 as after having an amazing block of training in prep for Kona
where crazy 180km rides with almost 4000m of acsent & an hour
nippy run off the bike with jumpers , warm beany etc etc were on
the agenda Yeppoon half had now just become a solid hit out
but as my training bike was an old Softy classic beam set up usually
all 3 bottles full , spares etc it weighed a tonne + the beam was VERY
comfy so when initially feeling the new full carbon no moving parts
rigid beam frame I was nervous about how stiff it felt as my lumpty
bumpty stressed lower genital region was rather raw & inflamed
from 20 hour weeks in the saddle during July & early Aug #*!?$!!!

Hence with my very limited taper & tender legs a true test debut race
for the new Attack frame was @ risk as Hawaii bound race favourite pro
Cameron Watt with a firm 5th @ IM Australia had DNF'd into the bike leg .
I managed to deal with my flat spots during the entire race by sinking into
suttle IM paced efforts & with a few spurts here an there clocked a 4.30min
time nearly 8min ahead of 3rd placed Rocket Rod who takes no prisoners on
the bike leg while the winner doubled his 90sec leed over me on the bike to
take out the fastest run of the day , well until we meet again in Hawaii noting
on a rather cool windy sprinkly 20ish degree nasty sea chop central QLD day
Jimbo the Tassie demon & Kona team mate cruized home for tape homours .....

Using the 650c Hed tri-spoke rear without the revolutionary Gravity Zero hub
was a selection based on appearence & one I will never make again but I had
sent the wheel to engineer extraordinaire Kevin Hancett from www.gravity-zero.com.au
as it would of been my best option for Kona IM where discs aren't illegal due to
the hi-wind factor but big Kev was this time unable to weave his magic & install
his superior rear hub into the super aero full carbon Hed tri-spoke .
I know in my heart it set me back several minutes costing me a debut win on this
sweet Attack frame limited taper & tactical blunders aside & with the 20mm single
tyres also being a poor selection for what is the roughest road surface in any triathlon
in Australia , maybe bar the testing Maitland tri where the Softride is at its best !

The rear end which Graeme stiffened for track cycling was amazing , the
excelleration & power transfer to the back wheel was instant & with the 650c
wheel it felt @ times like a motor bike attemping a wheely !!!!!!!
Thanx so much Graeme for making the Attack frame prototype into a 650c
frame as I know it was a drama to convert all the tooling around from the 700c
sizing though I'm sure I will do you justice once riding into the lava feilds
of Kona & hopefully next year if a qualify again we may go with a 666c rear
wheel , 650c front & use your integrated aerobar fork front end to really take offf !

The absorption properties were not as releaving as the classic beam which I would
rate @ 6 out of 10 while the rocket beam is 4 the new attack beam is around 2 though
pre race I thought it was closer to a standard frame of 0.5 where the wheels , tyres
& saddle play a much higher role in the frames absorption characteristcs but once
pumped up with carbs , adrenaline & a race psychy while riding on the roughest
road in any tri down under the frame exposed itself & with the pair of Hed tri-spokes
running 20mm singles the frame had no where to hide while being loaded up !!!

Softride rocket beams tend to have a springy retention rate than the classic beam
which assists in stimulating a higher cadence . My pedalling action averaged
100 RPM ( the highest ever ) with 140 RPM max on the Attack beam during my
2.29min 90km bike split @ Yeppoon & the feel was so crisp as with only 50km
riding 2 days pre race the frame was nothing short of brilliant !
Riding with Kevin Hancett's gravity zero hub during the last 6000kms of my riding
has also evolved my pedal stroke into a more effecient torque range due to
smoothing out my power tranfer through the 12 & 6 o'clock dead spots with an
enhanced cadence & in combination with being forward on the saddle .

The best feature of a beam frame is the fact that 80 degree + seat angles can
be obtained with minimal jarring from road vibrations being absorpted by the
weight bearing muscles & spinal region via the seat post thus enhancing
synergististic muscle action , increasing power & especially for IM racing
minimizing dehydration & carb consumption . Both Softride classic & rocket
beams work in unism with the free wheeling gravity zero hub to maximize
rider performance to new heights & I have no doubt once I ride the Attack beam
frame with Kevin's rear hub history will be beckoning , STAY TUNED !?!”


Now what do you think?

ShaRRky
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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [ShaRRky] [ In reply to ]
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Dude that is sweet. I might have to buy a new bike.

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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [ShaRRky] [ In reply to ]
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Be still my heart.
(How does one adjust the beam height?)
It would be nicer with shorter head tube. I have to use an adjustable stem in full down position. I just got a 30deg stem that I'm gonna try--flipped, of course.

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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [docfuel] [ In reply to ]
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Be still my heart.
(How does one adjust the beam height?)
It would be nicer with shorter head tube. I have to use an adjustable stem in full down position. I just got a 30deg stem that I'm gonna try--flipped, of course.

I don't think the beam height gets adjusted. It looks fixed to me. It looks like where the seat post attaches to the beam is where you get the height adjustment. I actually don't have any idea! Adjusting the beam itself seemed to be of concern for some of you. I for one never had a problem with the Rocket beam hardware or adjustment.

Remember this is a prototype. Seems that in some of the emails they spoke about an intergrated head/fork configuration? Like the newer Felt.

ShaRRky
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ooooo sweet! thanks for sharing. hope this comes through to production.

v/r

Steve
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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [ShaRRky] [ In reply to ]
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Nice. They could probably trim a few hundred grams of head tube length there though.

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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [ShaRRky] [ In reply to ]
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OMFG!!!! Please enter my pre-order now. Thank you.

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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [Record10Carbon] [ In reply to ]
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mine too, just not in pink :)

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Re: Darn it! Won't somebody buy Softride and start making bikes again? [ShaRRky] [ In reply to ]
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Nice contrast: Beautiful and functional bike in front of an uncomfortable and ugly sofa!
C'mon, Softride, we are pulling for you!
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