Democratic primary voters under 35 years old via new Quinnipiac poll:
Sanders 52%
Warren 17%
Biden 11%
Yang 7%
Gabbard 3%
Buttigieg 2%
Bloomberg 2%
Everyone else 1% or less

Because he represents the bubbling rage today's youth feel toward the establishment. The youth are a mix of despondent and angry over the fact that they will likely earn less than their parents, not be able to afford a house, that their planet is environmentally fucked up by greedy pricks. Bernie doesn't tip toe around this - he tells it straight and its appealing to the youth.

"If you aren’t a liberal when you’re young, you have no heart, but if you aren’t a middle-aged conservative, you have no head." Seems like a fair assessment to me.

However, I think you give the youth too much credit for independent thinking. They learn their voting habits from their parents, so many will be donkeys and the others elephants.

"But voting as a family routine? It turns out that there is evidence in the world of political science and public policy research that lifelong voting habits are formed in childhood and adolescence, and that those issues of routine and habit may be important in determining voter behavior and therefore election results."

https://publicpolicy.stanford.edu/...t-may-be-our-parents

And then there will be me, torn between the Green Party and Libertarian Party.... ;)

It's simple. He promises free stuff. That's his appeal to my voting age son.
When I ask how will it get paid for, he shrugs.

It's simple. He promises free stuff. That's his appeal to my voting age son.
When I ask how will it get paid for, he shrugs.

It's simple. He promises free stuff. That's his appeal to my voting age son.
When I ask how will it get paid for, he shrugs.

It's simple. He promises free stuff. That's his appeal to my voting age son.
When I ask how will it get paid for, he shrugs.

I mean sure, sorta, but that doesn't really explain Bernie's appeal in particular and among younger voters on top of that. Both my wife and I are lefties and neither of us particularly likes Bernie at all. She prefers Warren, who I can't stand even though I probably agree w/ her on more things than not. I really struggle to get excited over any of the current crop of choices, although it won't really matter anyway since I'm not a registered (D) and our state doesn't do an open primary so my vote will come down to 'Not Trump' after the true D's have already made their pick. Would have preferred Biden if only Scorsese could de-age him another 5-10 years like DeNiro; after that I woulda preferred Harris but she's already toast, or Buttegieg but I have 0.0% hope/confidence that anywhere near enough voters in the key swing states are ready to elect a homo.

So where does that put my kids? Donkeys OK, but again that doesn't explain the OP: Why Bernie?

"If you aren’t a liberal when you’re young, you have no heart, but if you aren’t a middle-aged conservative, you have no head." Seems like a fair assessment to me.

However, I think you give the youth too much credit for independent thinking. They learn their voting habits from their parents, so many will be donkeys and the others elephants.

tell him when/if sanders get elected... he's on his own and Sanders will take care of him.

It's simple. He promises free stuff. That's his appeal to my voting age son.
When I ask how will it get paid for, he shrugs.

1) free stuff
2) hip and trendy answer
3) the others on the list suck
4) I'm not going to actually vote anyway.

5) some combination of 1-4

I agree with the post that you quoted. I’m young, and I may not be a diehard Bernie fan, but many of my peers that I have known for years are fans of his, for the reasons above.

What I do take issue with, is thinking that the youth aren’t able to think independently, or rather, “giving the youth too much credit for independent thinking.”

I know, I know- you were young once, and you know how it feels to be young and feel misunderstood by the older generations. But many young people are in fact capable of looking at the facts, not be blinded by emotion, and think separately from their parents.

My dad is a libertarian, and my mom is a liberal. It’s not a secret. And I don’t follow in either of their footsteps.

If I had to classify myself, which I don’t typically do, I would say I am a moderate. At this point in my life, I have my own set of morals and ideals, shaped by my childhood events, experiences of friends and companions that I’ve known, and research and reading of historical events throughout the world.

I would say that maybe ten percent of my morals are founded directly from my parents- and that is not a bad thing. I had a good childhood all things considered, and was raised to respectful, kind, and trustworthy. Those are not political leanings. My thoughts on immigration, gun control, the ideal amount of legislative restriction, and any other political topic I’ve come to hold an opinion on are formed by me.

I guess my ranting all boils down to this: young adults are able to think for theirselves, and shouldn’t solely be dismissed because of their age.

I think its fairly simple. They want the lifestyle their parents had. Pensions, wages that meet general cost of living, and reasonable healthcare.
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Congrats on propagating bullshit. Whenever you want to have a real discussion feel free to join and bring your own thoughts.

You just proved my point.

Their parents didn’t have cell phones. And a whole bunch of other costs. Give those things up and you’ll lower your cost of living.

I think it is slightly more subtle than that. He promises a better world. He’s an idealist. So are a lot of young people; he keys into that.

Get older and (depending on your pov) you become either more of a realist or more jaundiced. You conclude that idealism is a pipe dream.

But when you’re younger you’re prepared to believe anything is possible, without delving too hard into the detail of how.

Give the schtick a rest. I knew Duffy. And you're no Duffy.

It's simple. He promises free stuff. That's his appeal to my voting age son.
When I ask how will it get paid for, he shrugs.

It's simple. He promises free stuff. That's his appeal to my voting age son.
When I ask how will it get paid for, he shrugs.

He's in good company. No one cares about stuff being paid for anymore. I have no idea how Bernie states he will fund his programs, but it certainly can't be any dumber or blatantly misleading as saying Mexico will.

dah5609]Nice balanced views from an independent source there...

The Leadership Institute is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization located in Arlington, Virginia that teaches "political technology."[1]
The Institute was founded in 1979 by conservative activist Morton Blackwell. Its mission is to "increase the number and effectiveness of conservative activists" and to "identify, train, recruit and place conservatives in politics, government, and media."[2]

TomkR Congrats on propagating bullshit. Whenever you want to have a real discussion feel free to join and bring your own thoughts.

Hahaha Balanced sources like Wapo, NYT, CNN??? Sources often used in the LR. Since when does having a balanced view been a criteria here? Most of the LR is one side or the other finding conformation bias to support their view.
Do Universities strive for a balanced view ? Nope, how could they? Dems. professors out number Pubs 12-1. In some departments like humanities it can go as high as 60-1.

Some guys (conservatives) making a video of how brainwashed and naive students are at these Universities IMO is a revealing way of showing why young people would choose a Socialist like Sanders.

burnthesheep wrote:

Shall we head over to Liberty University or Bob Jones? Your pick.

apparently China is paying for the tariffs too....

Their parents didn’t have cell phones. And a whole bunch of other costs. Give those things up and you’ll lower your cost of living.

Personally I think a LOT can be managed by picking more affordable schools and intelligent majors with actual marketability.

Having said that, its not cell phones that are making them poor. An Iphone X held on to for 5 years costs about $17/mo. Sure, you'll need a service, too, but they really aren't any more expensive that land line plans were back in the day, and much cheaper once you consider long distance charges.

Universities who are always pushing for 'diversity' seem to stop at diverse points of view especially when it means hiring more conservative professors.


I don't agree. In the university departments where it matters most (political science, history, economics) is where there is the most political diversity and the most push for political diversity. In the sciences, there are very few conservatives but political views in the sciences are not taken into consideration (or even known) when hiring. Yes, a potential candidate in biology who doesn't believe in evolution would likely not be hired if he had somehow published papers containing these views -- that person would never even make the first cut unless it was at a very conservative, religious school.

Shit, for a second there I thought we were talking about how Trump got elected. The only difference between the age groups being the level of hypocrisy.

This says more about you than it does your son.

How exactly is that? My son went on about all the free stuff. I asked him how it will get funded.
I'm guessing you don't have children over the age of 11.

In the liberal art colleges the numbers are staggering...
Mitchell Langbert, an associate professor of business at Brooklyn College, published a study of the political affiliations of faculty members at 51 of the 66 liberal-arts colleges ranked highest by U.S. News in 2017. The findings are eye-popping (even if they do not come as a great surprise to many people in academia).
Democrats dominate most fields. In religion, Langbert’s survey found that the ratio of Democrats to Republicans is 70-to-1. In music, it is 33-to-1. In biology, it is 21-to-1. In philosophy, history and psychology, it is 17-to-1. In political science, it is 8-to-1.
The gap is narrower in science and engineering. In physics, economics and mathematics, the ratio is about 6-to-1. In chemistry, it is 5-to-1, and in engineering, it is just 1.6-to-1. Still, Lambert found no field in which Republicans are more numerous than Democrats.
True, these figures do not include the many professors who do not have a political affiliation, either because they are not registered at all or because they have not declared themselves as Democrats or Republicans. And, true, the ratios vary dramatically across colleges.
None of the 51 colleges had more Republicans than Democrats. According to the survey, more than a third of them had no Republicans at all.

There’s more than just that. Some people have cut cable but they have an internet bill to pay. On top of that they “need” Netflix and Prime and Disney+ and...

Optional expenses are much higher now than when we were young.

I have a 55” TV. Do I need a 55” Tv? Hells no. Did my Dad ever pay $1000 for a fucking TV? hells no. (Inflation yada yada, I get it). I have Two TVs that I once paid $1000 for.

Growing up we had a colour TV my Dad won in a contest and a black and white TV my great aunt gave us. It was fine.

We had a 3 bedroom house with one bath and 5 family members. It was fine.

There was no internet. We had a very very basic cable package. And a land line. It was fine.

When you went out you carried a quarter in case you needed to use a pay phone. It was fine.

My point is that we have so much stuff that we don’t need. We pay way more than our parents ever did. Why? Because we “need” it.

No we really don’t.