Josh dominating the swim as expected

I think you got the names all wrong.

Amberger leading with Brownlee on his feet, Frodeno, Currie sitting in there. Lange at the back of that lead group. No sign of Beals, Sanders yet.

Lucy leading with Brandon on her feet and a big gap already 14min in.

Starky out with an infection/cold.

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No Starky. Guess he had a lung infection. That’s too bad, I wanted to see how he stirred the pot in the race with his biking and AB and Jan. Damn. Plus I just root for the guy (though he has very little chance).

Lainge in the lead swim pack

Alistair is right there... Looking strong

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there is a sticky thread at the top for this...

Keep the info coming folks.. the streaming is crap and broken for me 🤬

Wait, so where is live feed this year?

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Beals is in the front pack???

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Mr. October. Seems like the favourite to me

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Huge swim for Mr. October. Jan is not going to be happy about it.

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NO. Here is the link to the broadcast

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Huge respect for Lange staying with swim main group. I find myself cheering for him now.

Good swims from Kienle and Wurf, they will be happy with that. Didn't see if Sanders was in that chase group

Tracker has Sanders biking with kienle and wurf

Wurf, Kienle, Sanders train back 3:37

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The question now is when is Lange domestique going to catch up and start pulling for him? Because he can’t keep pace with any of the guys in front nor the freight train that’s going to pass him.

I saw that too. Can’t wait to see that freight train come through!

He’s in no man’s land now. I expect he’ll see the triple threat soon and will try to jump into that. Will he have the bike legs to go?

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The constant ventum commercial is getting old fast.

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NBC Sports has it as well. Not sure why all you clowns use FB to view it, when NBCS has the race - you can stream it if you're cable provider doesn't have it, through their site or on the app.

I was changing my little guys diaper did I hear right that Lionel dropped off?

i havnt heard them say LS dropped

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so can anyone see lucy’s straw for the shivs bladder? i’m not seeing it. she’s using a bta and two bottles behind the seat... surely she has nutrition in the shivs bladder as well.

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Lange caught the train for now. They are 3:04 back

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Lange is is no mans land. Matt Russell just passed him.

Stein, Wurf, Sanders, Kienle all in a group that will likely catch the leaders by the turn-around.

She's drinking out of both the bottles and the straw.

The xlab straw or shiv straw? I see the bta straw but not a straw from the bladder.

Lange is stopped on the side of the road being consoled!!! Not Good!!!

Looks like Lange is out

Lange Out - Getting report on FB now.

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We wondered what would happen to Lange with his draft partner out of the race.

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Dunno looks like they only pulled back 20-30 seconds in the last 30km..

She was drinking mostly out of the bottles, and I did once see her drink out the long straw "appeared" to be the bladder. it was a long straw, unlike a BTA straw.

So now what? Brownlee and Frodeno content to shut it down and run a marathon together? How much can they spot Wurf, Sanders, et al?

This changes everything by removing the 2:39 marathon from the equation!

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She has an xlab torpedo with a long straw. Curious if they get a shot with another straw.

I am wrong again.

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They said his wife got hurt pretty bad in a bike crash this week. Maybe it got in his head add in so many people pulling away he just wasn’t with it.

Even the commentators are flabbergasted. It was such a sudden stop. And he walked away after, didn't look injured.

I understand something else may be going on but I really can't wait to hear what went wrong.

Daniella's formula of going hard on the 2nd half of the Bike may not work this year because the winds are picking up exponentially, and the headwind may be more fierce the back half, which could mean Lucy gets off the Bike in first with a 5-minute plus cushion to start the run.

no kidding. he was riding fairly well and just stopped.

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Wurf group now just 2:37 down.

She was pictured on her own insta smiling and happy post crash 6 days ago. Dont get me wrong looked liked some nasty cuts but otherwise fine. So i doubt this is the reason.

But very weird pullout...

You have to wonder... he wasn't making gains.. getting passed... winds picking up ... got into his head and he didn't see it getting any better..

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Super strange. With AB and Frodo up the road and the crazy wind one has to wonder if he simply folded knowing he didn’t have a shot

Yeah they don't seem to be pulling back time anymore :(

He was never my favourite but if this is the reason i’ll be staggeringly disappointed. I really hope it isnt...

Bottom line it appears he just gave up.

Would be terrible, not my favorite simply because he’s been a one trick pony (granted the best trick: Kona). But if this is the reason and looking back at 2014 when Jan finished despite a bad back injury, just goes to show who deserves the spotlight.

Is that lead 5 drafting?

This is exactly what I thought would change knowing AB would be there: really favors him and Frodo obviously but a dark horse is TO now for a podium if the chase group can’t close the gap or it gets worse.

Uber bikers are not closing the gap still 2:30. Back

Yes but legally, they are simply taking turns to pull because it gives them the better shot at a good lead into T2

Mcnamee out!!

Thanks

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As a fellow Scotsman, my sentiment exactly.

Its a Disgrace.

No wonder Seb wurf and sanders aren’t taking time out anymore. M

The lead 5 are taking the piss out of the 12mtr rule.

Its more Like 5 at times. M

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There’s a huge pack about 2:40 back. When will they make a move?

Frodo is not letting them catch. They're trying.

After the turn around... I think you'll see them drop the hammer

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i think i just heard them say LS is out.

dropping like flies!

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I simply don’t see it. I know that on TV it looks closely but to your point I would really like to see an analysis from someone really measuring those gaps post race (I think someone did that last year after the 70.3 worlds to prove Gomez was drafting). We have to see a fair race, and also simple fix make it a 20m rule.

To recap...

Withdrawals:

Lange
Sanders (Correction, he is still in)
McNamee

Looks like a new podium this year.

I heard that, too, but I think the announce meant "Mcnamee and Lange" but they said "Sanders". I think Sanders is still in.

The gap may grow bigger after the turnaround perhaps on the way down from Hawi. The chase group will still be going up while the lead pack will be going downhill holding for dear life (wind).

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They said Lange had a fever last night, and likely sick today.

Sanders is still riding

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Just saw the replay, didnt spot initially that he was bawling his eyes out. You dont do that if your just giving up so think there’s something going on. Did they literally just mention a fever?!

Ps boo to mcnamee and still sounds like sanders is there..!

TO takes the lead for a while. i hope this doesn’t hurt him taking all the wind.

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Hawi turnaround:

TO just made the exact same move that he made in 2014 or 2015 when he got 3rd. Would be great to see him in the podium (I still don’t think he can outrun Frodo or AB). Wurf made a move they say.

I think the gap will be bigger after this on the chase pack.

Go T.O.!!!

Daniela losing huge time. 8+ minutes back and dropping, and she was dropped from another group of girls.

ya, that’s pretty shocking

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Wind is really picking up...

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I figured lange also just overcooked the swim. But fever could do it. Will be interesting to get an answer. I was hoping he would be right in there with the lead group... or at least join wurf/sk/ls. I figured he was done when they blew by.

Ryf... another slow start. Keeping us wondering.

Where's Brownlee after the turn?

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That’s big. The way Haug, Simmonds and Lucy run, it may be too much to overcome from her. My pick here would be Haug

Tim spinning top gear and coasting. Spinning, coasting. So, what 40 mph?

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Holding the bars for dear life I guess...

Over 60 kph... dealing with the crosswinds

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In 4th... he got left behind a bit when TO and Frodo started to go hard after the turn around

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I doubt Lange had the swim of his life...after having a fever all night...probably something else...maybe he just cracked under the pressure...or a combo of things. I'm no Lange fan, but I was pumped to see him making it a race to the finish

Haug for the women.

I think Lionel is having an off day he usually attacks. I hope I'm wrong.

Greg Welch called him as out. He was wrong.

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The wind where Lange dropped out was super strong.

They have re tweeted it. Its strong.

Makes me very happy.

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crap, cams group not pulling any time back anymore

Jan is having a great race... Alistair is too. The Uber bikers are losing time to them.

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Daniela 9:30 down at the turn-around.

i’d love to see ali podium but the skeptic in me keeps saying no.


what the heck is going on with ryf!? i know she’s a 2nd half racer but she’s not looking herself.

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and as it is now i can’t see LS top 10.

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Can't imagine Daniela would voluntarily let herself drop from a group of other women. She's definitely off.

I think he will be on the podium... especially with Lange and Mcnamee out.

She isn't looking great.

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Ali is probably going to be there. This is Frodo's race now.

Ryf was grabbing her stomach.

TO, Frodo and Ali are working well together. Clearly benefiting TO for podium and looks like the race for first will be Frodo vs AB (with Frodo’s race to lose)

Pro Men - Thru Bike Split 13 - Queen K Inbound @ Hualalai Golf Course - 95.28 mi
1 4:28:07 Jan Frodeno
2 4:28:09 0:03 Alistair Brownlee
3 4:28:14 0:07 Tim O'Donnell
4 4:30:14 2:07 Cameron Wurf
5 4:30:15 2:09 Sebastian Kienle
6 4:30:17 2:10 Boris Stein
7 4:30:19 2:12 Kristian Hogenhaug
8 4:30:22 2:15 Philipp Koutny
9 4:30:25 2:18 Lionel Sanders
10 4:30:28 2:21 Joe Skipper

Pro Women - Thru Bike Split 12 - Queen K Inbound @ Waikoloa- 87.36 mi
1 4:06:47 Lucy Charles-Barclay
2 4:13:17 6:31 Sarah Crowley
3 4:13:20 6:34 Anne Haug
4 4:13:21 6:35 Imogen Simmonds
5 4:13:23 6:37 Carrie Lester
6 4:13:24 6:38 Daniela Bleymehl
7 4:13:34 6:48 Laura Philipp
8 4:15:57 9:11 Heather Jackson
9 4:16:56 10:10 Daniela Ryf
10 4:16:58 10:12 Jocelyn McCauley

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Men's race is a lot closer then I thought it would be. Only just over two minutes between the top 10.

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Frodo now solo off the front w/ approx 1/4 mile gap.

Frodo made the big move. I think this is over.

Jan for the win. If he has this type of energy t drop TO and AB it's his race to lose.

Ali changed his rear wheel? What's up with that

Apparently lange had a fever. Where did that info come from? Looked like he was riding hard one minute (by himself) and then just gave up.

He just looks so cool and calculated. Keeps missing bottles though... hopefully that won't be a factor.

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Just noticed they dont match anymore. Did TO wait for him?

I think something happened just after Hawi. A gap seemed to develop at the same time as we lost pictures of the men’s race

it def looks like it, BUT he still has to run a marathon.

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Will Wurf and sebi train make a charge this late into the bike and try and close anymore?

Yup but he will be able to manage a lot better running in front than chasing. He knows a 2:42 gets it done based on where’s he’s at and who’s behind.

ali is falling.

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Yes. Very very interesting race for podium now

They are coming, and about to catch Alistair ... but will still be behind Frodo at T2...

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Everyone caught AB. This will be a great race for 2-3

Lieto just said if Frodo runs a 2:45 he'll break the course record.

He definitely has it in him. For first this race is over. I think he goes sub 2:42 today

Really?

He’s in third and running faster than 1st and 2nd

Why not?

That was at the end of the bike when he got caught now he’s cranking it up on the run

He may go sub 2:40...the problem is he won't be pressed to do that.

He will walk it out to go 2:41:XX at the end I bet.

I actually think he has a shot at top 5

He is in 4th now...

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Lionel is 4th. He actually may be top 3 when is all said and done

Kienle back in 4th Lionel in 5th. Frodo pulling away

Did I just hear Alistair passed TO? Cam Wurf just conceded to Frodo when he met him

Edited: no TO still strong in second. AB is running well though

Wurf reached out far for a Hi Five from Frodo on the out & back, and Wurf got nothing but air!! Frodo was like, "FU! This giant German sausage crushed you on the Bike today."

On the Women’s side Ryf is done. 12 minutes back. No way she pulls a 2013 Rinny. Lucy and Haug are my picks for 1-2 (don’t know which order though)

Sebastian passes Brownlie

Holly crap. Kienle just passed AB! Didn’t see this one coming. Great for Sebi!!!

Love it...that tells you how great Wurf is for the sport!

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Something happening with Beals

Came on here to ask if anyone knew... Not even off the bike yet

“See you in the douches”

Should be off the bike soon, complete slow down from mile 77....

Why not wait til the race is over to make a prediction

😂

Same thing with Rinny - is cruising it in at under 20mph, still has 8 miles to go on the bike when Lucy Charles is already 6miles into the run.

Where's that LIKE button, again?

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Anyone see anything with Sarah True? looks like not off the bike

Pro Men - Thru Run Split 9 - Pine Tree Outbound on Queen K - 12.17 mi

1 6:20:50 Jan Frodeno
2 6:24:17 3:27 Tim O'Donnell
3 6:26:20 5:31 Sebastian Kienle
4 6:29:26 8:36 Cameron Wurf
5 6:30:32 9:43 Philipp Koutny
6 6:31:09 10:20 Alistair Brownlee
7 6:31:50 11:01 Lionel Sanders

The gap is 3:57 between Jan Frodeno and Tim O'Donnell at mile 15

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lucy is getting run down by haug. im not a big lucy fan, but man that would suck for her to have her day then get beat by someone she didnt expect.

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Not totally unexpected. Haug was 3rd last year with the best marathon. To me she may end up being a slightly better version of Rinny since she doesn’t lose too much time on the swim, can bike with the chase group and has a killer run.

Nooooo another year of hearing her complain about race performances

😒

Will Ryf still make the podium?

I would love to see her recover to top 5
Much respect for not having a great day on the bike, fight, and then still make a nice comeback.

Ryf looks like she's limping?

And what happened to Lange's buddy to ride behind this year?

Frodeno with six miles left at 7:13. Six six and a half minute miles and he runs 7:52 which is record time

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Jan will take Lange’s record too. He needs 6 minute miles for the last 5 and still has 2 minutes to spare.

7 fourty something has a nice ring to it

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They keep talking about Charles Barcley. For a minute I thought about basketball.

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Pro Men - Thru Run Split 14 - Energy Lab Exit - 18.59 mi

1 7:02:49 Jan Frodeno
2 7:07:23 4:34 Tim O'Donnell
3 7:10:13 7:25 Sebastian Kienle
4 7:14:46 11:58 Cameron Wurf
5 7:15:24 12:36 Ben Hoffman
6 7:15:36 12:48 Philipp Koutny
7 7:19:47 16:59 Chris Leiferman
8 7:19:47 16:59 Lionel Sanders
9 7:21:48 19:00 Tim Reed
10 7:22:30 19:42 Bart Aernouts
11 7:23:41 20:53 Alistair Brownlee
12 7:24:34 21:46 Jan Van Berkel

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What happened to Brownlee?

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We are probably looking at three or four guys under 8 hours. On a day with some wind. Pretty amazing.

The only asterik is it would have been even better if Lange was healthy.

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Going out on the bike like it was ITU.

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Brownlee is at his Ironman level...

Awesome for Tim and the US!

Pro Men - Thru Run Split 16 - Allied Quarry Inbound on Queen K - 21.90 mi

1 7:24:31 Jan Frodeno
2 7:31:15 6:44 Tim O'Donnell
3 7:33:49 9:18 Sebastian Kienle
4 7:36:55 12:24 Ben Hoffman
5 7:38:19 13:48 Cameron Wurf
6 7:39:51 15:20 Joe Skipper

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The guy is a machine! And the record... with swells in the swim and wind on the bike!

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anyone else see the stink eye frodo gave wurf at the finish line? wurf was trying to be all buddy buddy. ha!

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Feeling it for Lucy

I noticed that he does that while I was watching some 70.3s he was doing. Brownlee was always attacking off the front, and then yelling at others to take their turns too. Surging back and forth on the bike to break the competition works for shorter distances, but will just break yourself on an Ironman. He's got to un-train himself from doing that if he want's to keep from blowing up on the run.

Sebi is just an absolute gem.

Agreed, what a class act. Loved what he said about Jan and his shortcuts

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Yes.. That was awkward af.

He didn't seem to have much time for him.
Jan is much more of a gentleman... and I don't think will ever be buddies with a guy like Wurf, who talks the way he does.

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Yeah and Ryf running close to 9 min/miles now... didn't see that coming.

They don’t like Wurf I wonder what’s going on there.

Anyone know what the things are on TO’s visor, sebi had them on his arms, Anne haug had them on her headband hat.

The wheels are completely off but is really good that she’s gutting it to finish. Some of us know that feeling. Digging super deep

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Anyone know what the things are on TO’s visor, sebi had them on his arms, Anne haug had them on her headband hat.

Cooling headbands

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Yup, going all the way to the end. Lots of respect.

Sanders and Brownlee finally got there! Massive drop backs on the run.
Sanders not as good as last year I think?

I'm sure he'll follow through now on hiring a proper coach and giving them full control

that’s what he’s gonna say on his youtube vid tomorrow for sure.

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Glad we actually went on with the race instead of giving AB the win "based on paper" as many people had on this forum🤭🤭🤭

Jan should thanks AB and Amberger for that sweet towing the swim and bike leg turns!!! Had them both burn themselves and gone with the wind and the win!!! Great racing from Jan 👊🤘👍🤙💪

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Awful coverage of the race, seems IM only has 6 camera's, can only tell us who's in the Top 4, shame Lange and McNamee dropped out sick as may have shaked things up a bit.

Maybe the poor coverage made the race dull but the only excitment I got (moment of the race for me) was seeing Charles re take 2nd place from Crowley.

Disappointed with Brownlee's race, I hope he sticks with IM distance now and doesn't do a Gomez as he's probably left going for Tokyo too late, without the mechanical and Penalty might he have cracked the Top 10? (I missed most the Bike)

I did

I also noticed no one went up to wurf when he finished

Pink?

Full respect for Ryf. I normally don’t cheer for favourites, but she is a class act. You need to be allowed to have one off day in 5 years.

Did Ryf end up taking a short Delaware street nap?

Too soon?

I'm already looking forward to Haug Vs Ryf next year!

Beals was sick a couple of weaks before the race and spoke about being too skinny, one of the keys signs according to him things training/fitness is going sideways...to be honest, I think he only started for sponsors...hopefully he turns it around and kills a fall Ironman.

I watched pretty much every minute of todays broadcast from 10:30 AM ET to 9:30. I've been watching the entire day of live coverage every year since they started doing it a few years back. I think the first year was 2013 and I distinctly remember Luke Mckenzie looking like an emaciated skeleton wearing a green trucker hat. Anyhow, I digress... Every year the broadcast has really gotten substantially better, and this year it was really amazing. The commentary, guests, video interviews, camera angles, they really nailed it this year. In years past I would walk away for long sections of the Bike and middle of the Run. This year the hours flew by and it was really entertaining. I think it also speaks to the quality of the field making it entertaining as well. But yeah, kudos to Ironman for coming a long way. Even my teens were impressed that 70k+ people were viewing the event on average throughout the day.

In my opinion, that was amazing coverage of the race; especially compared to 6 years ago!

Compare it to Superleague or ITU!

Compared to Nice, this was an amazing broadcast. The same commentators that were awful flipped a switch and got super analytical. I was very happy this time around.

I know more than a few Australians. There's plenty of dickheads (like Wurf, who I enjoy) and plenty of reserved guys like Crowie.

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Starky was out there cheering us on. It was great to see him.

What happened to Starky? Did he not even start?

Also what happened to Sarah True? I know she got an early flat, but then she seemed to do well for a while. Until mile 80 or so.

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Starkly tweeted he was sick and it would be stupid for him to start. Or something to that affect.

Sarah tweeted at 80 miles in the race was hot and the organizers should have canceled for the athletes safety.

Okay... first one is true. Second maybe slightly tongue in cheek...

I agree. The coverage has improved vastly over the past few years.

Hopefully NBC does a better job in their recap in November than last year

Starky came back into the pool area at Kam III with his bike and all his gear while we were waiting for Female AG start. Said he’d been fighting a lung infection for a week. He went for a swim and still felt like he was breathing thru a straw so he called it. He thought his fitness was really solid and felt bad not getting a chance to race.

Ryf is better in all three disciplines. No contest.

People who say Ryf can't run that fast have to remember she hasn't had to run fast. She goes as hard as she needs to win. That's how you have longevity in the sport.

Haug is a better runner than Ryf.

There is a great interview from Jan where he does a recap of the race and his motivation, its pretty great. no clue how to link youtube video's here (im technologically impaired!!) but you will find it if you search for 2019 Breakfast with Bob from Kona : Jan Frodeno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFW_q3Al5Cg

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Maybe. We haven't seen Ryf fully challenged on the run yet.

Still, Ryf will take too much time on the bike for it to be a factor.

Ryf healthy next year will be #5.