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Aloha Gang,

Well, our move from Kailua town to Waimea on Hawaii island took longer than expected and with a new house and 10 acres the annual "Kona Survival Guide" got put on hold as I didn't have the time earlier this summer to be in Kona updating things as I really needed to in order to bring the most up to date guide. The full guide will return in 2020. With that said there are few things happening you should know about if you're coming to the IMWC.

The County Pool. The Kona Aquatic Center is closed. There was a filter problem in March of this year which has required a full replacement system. That is being done, it is ahead of schedule as are the remodeling projects that were being done at the same time. It is currently slated to open (drum roll please) ... during the second week of October. Ironman week. If you wanted to get your last pool set in before the race, you'll need to make other arrangements. The Konawaena pool at the local high school in that area (on the mountain side/mauka side) off the belt high south of town, has proposed expanded hours to help with some of the demand. call ahead (808) 323-3252

Maunakea. Maunakea Access Road to the summit, observatories and visitors center is closed. There is an ongoing protest over the TMT (Thirty Meter Telescope) construction. Many folks are upset over the 5-acre site and how the summit area has looked like a high tech trailer park since the telescopes have taken over. I do not anticipate the road opening in time for many of the pre and post-race rides up to the visitor center or summit. Might I suggest those who want to do this ride instead make the turn on to Mauna Loa Road and head up that way? It's a nice road now -- paved to the 11,000 ft level. Besides if you go to Mauna Loa, you get to have a selfie with Maunakea in the background. This is a dynamic situation, so watch the news if you're at all curious. Yesterday there were 200 police officers and ... 600 National Guard troops according to local sources. BTW, Maunakea is the preferred spelling now, it's part of the mountain's official name. The older name is more descriptive than a proper name.

Old Saddle Road. This has been a favorite ride of many folks for a long time. A couple of things have happened since last year. Old Saddle Raod has been completely repaved. No more 40-year-old ruts from military vehicles (Those vehicles are on the Daniel K. now). That's a good thing. The bad thing? Still no shoulders and the road has much more vehicle traffic and higher speed vehicle traffic now trying to use it as a short cut to the and from the cross-island highway. Please be careful if you try to ride on this road.

Crowds. A few things have happened all in a relatively short period of time that will make Kona feel and be far more crowded than normal. First, Hawaii County is suddenly popular again as a tourist spot, more so than it has been in the recent past. Second, last year's eruptions destroyed 800 homes (more or less). Most of those were vacation rentals. That's put even more pressure on the Air BnB's and hotels on the west side. And then there's Ironman. Hence the crowds.

This year's race will be the first race in many years for which I will likely not be a volunteer and driving the Queen K while you're running it, for a variety of reasons that have nothing to do with your race. I'll be sitting this one out up off of old Saddle Rd (although I am being enticed with a different role). Be safe in town, reduce your risk of injury by following the rules of riding and safe road running as much as possible and have fun out there race day.

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My favorite post of each year, even in an abbreviated form.
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Thanks for the updates. Itā€™ll be my first Kona, and Iā€™ve thoroughly read through the older threads! Looking forward to the rookie experience - will be staying at Uncle Billyā€™s.

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Make sure you have a mai tai at the restaurant across the street.
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logella wrote:
My favorite post of each year, even in an abbreviated form.

If I can get some time in the next two or so weeks to visit the Ali`i Drive and a bit beyond area, I'll do an abbreviated revision of the Survival Guide and post it here. There are several new eateries along Ali`i and a few new stores that really should be included. A couple of old shops (such as the Acai Bowl place that used to be in the King Kam Hotel) somehow got dropped by me and ought to be in the guide (that particular shop is in the Kona Marketplace Shops btw). All in all, it was time for a full rewrite and I just didn't get the time. Too much rain in upcountry Hawaii this year and things were growing ... fast (even for Hawaii) that meant double and triple the amount of expected mowing and brush whacking.

The bicycle shop situation has not changed much. Velofix is mobile, Bikeworks (Kona), Bikeworks Beach and Sport (Waikoloa Resorts), Mountain Road Cycles in Waimea (Kamuela). Unison for your race morning needs is till there as well.

In the meantime, I'll be glad to answer questions as will other Kona vets.

Q1: No, one knee is still "not quite right". Not a single triathlon since my last 70.3 in Coeur d~Alene. My goals now are to figure out how to push the swim and bike so I can walk-run (not run-walk) a 70.3 and make the cutoffs. One more time. Oh and to just be able to pretend run.


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Just wanted to say thanks for doing this again, abbreviated or not.
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Well, I guess Kona 2019 is now official!! I LOVE this topic every year!
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Thanks for this update. Would you say Mamalahoa > Saddle > 200 is dangerous to ride and best avoided?
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any good places to buy a cigar in Kona or the area?

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Bill,

Great to see this. I've always loved participating in this in years past and helping out where I can.

I can surely see sitting it out - it's a whole other world "up the hill" at your new place. You would never even know IM is going on!

Nice to see the repaving of the Old Saddle Road. They were just finishing that up when we were there in the winter. Back then did not notice an increase in traffic, but perhaps that is now the case as word get's out that it's finished. One of the best climbs on the Kona Coast, if you start out at sea level at Waikoloa.


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Thanks for the updates. Itā€™ll be my first Kona, and Iā€™ve thoroughly read through the older threads! Looking forward to the rookie experience - will be staying at Uncle Billyā€™s.


Make sure you come to the Slowtwitch Party!

That and the Underpants run are the only two mandatory Race Week activities! :-)


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Thanks for doing this!
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Fleck wrote:
Bill,

Great to see this. I've always loved participating in this in years past and helping out where I can.

I can surely see sitting it out - it's a whole other world "up the hill" at your new place. You would never even know IM is going on!

Nice to see the repaving of the Old Saddle Road. They were just finishing that up when we were there in the winter. Back then did not notice an increase in traffic, but perhaps that is now the case as word get's out that it's finished. One of the best climbs on the Kona Coast, if you start out at sea level at Waikoloa.

There's been a fairly steady increase in traffic along the road Steve. And Kona is still traffic-laden of course as we approach October. No updated word on the county pool in Kailua town opening up yet either.

Steve, It's been wet in Waiki`i this year. We're mowing 2 to 3 days a week on the 2 acres around the house. Plus side? The trees are growing like weeds. I just finished the area behind the house on Wednesday. I'll need to mow it short again Sunday at the latest.

Weather: There is no vog again this year. Madame Pele is cooperating (so far) with us. The two active volcanos (Kilauea and Mauna Loa) are quiet. This has also been the hottest year on record in the state. Kailua town has been no exception. Telling folks to prepare for a hot race is usually a statement of the incredibly obvious, but prepare for a hot race even by IMWC standards.

Park News: Volcanos National Park is open again. Many parts of it are closed due to extensive damage. There are no lava flows to go see but the change in the land is incredible. Volcano House is open for Breakfast, lunch, and dinner plus it has great views of the caldera. They also have reopened the hotel portion of Volcano House. Kilauea Lodge is open and thriving in Volcano Village, it's under new management now but really hasn't missed a beat, it's still a great place to dine and stay ($$$). Many of the other businesses weathered the financial storm which accompanied the eruption last year.

The town of Pahoa is slowly recovering also if you're heading that way. Access to the Leilani Estates and Kapoho areas is very limited and somewhat impossible still. The rebuilding of the state road into the area still cannot be completed as some spots are still too hot to pave over.

Maunakea and the TMT: The road is still closed. The Governor and Mayor are waiting to see which way the winds of public opinion will ultimately blow before they decide what to do. With that said there is the possibility they will forcibly remove the protestors soon. The protest has been entirely peaceful but calling out Honolulu Riot Police and National Guard to deal with this could be ugly. If you're sympathetic to the protest and have time you're welcome up there, the protestors are there 24/7/365, as is a small (usually) police contingent. If the road is cleared I'd not expect the police to be allowing anyone other than the workers at the existing telescopes or construction workers to have access. Bike Mauna Loa!


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I don't arrive in Kona until the afternoon of the 9th, and I plan to put the bike together that afternoon. In terms of rides, would an early out and back from Uncle Billy's on Ali'i Dr be safe? I'm talking pretty early (probably 4-5 am), as I'll still be on East coast time - I'll bring bike lights.

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That's reasonably safe. Bike lights for that early of course. Be aware that parts of Ali`i Have no shoulder so you'll need to be looking behind you when you move into the traffic lane and there may be construction on a 'bridge" south on Ali`i that can slow you a bit.

You'll be seeing a very different version of Kailua Village at that time of the morning.


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Thanks for the update, love them! See you soon.
Aloha,
Mike
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The Canadian Breakfast brought to you by Subaru Canada is on again during Race Week in Kona this year at the IRONMAN World Championships.

I just received word of this, today from Subaru Canada. 11-time IRONMAN Race Winner, Lisa Bentley will be there. As well as Triathlon Canada Executive Director Kim Van Brugan. Other notables, VIPs etc . . TBA. They have asked me to Emcee the event.

Details: Tuesday, October 8, 9am - 11am. At the Canoe Club on Alii Drive. (Right beside the Kona Inn).

If you are a Canadian athlete and you are entered in the IRONMAN World Championships, you should be receiving RSVP details for this event, directly from IM via eMail. Please respond to that.

I look forward to seeing, "Team Kanada" in Kona!


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I'll be there! Let's catch up!
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Fleck wrote:
The Canadian Breakfast brought to you by Subaru Canada is on again during Race Week in Kona this year at the IRONMAN World Championships.

I just received word of this, today from Subaru Canada. 11-time IRONMAN Race Winner, Lisa Bentley will be there. As well as Triathlon Canada Executive Director Kim Van Brugan. Other notables, VIPs etc . . TBA. They have asked me to Emcee the event.

Details: Tuesday, October 8, 9am - 11am. At the Canoe Club on Alii Drive. (Right beside the Kona Inn).

If you are a Canadian athlete and you are entered in the IRONMAN World Championships, you should be receiving RSVP details for this event, directly from IM via eMail. Please respond to that.

I look forward to seeing, "Team Kanada" in Kona!

My Grandfather was from Canada. I have the exact same name ...


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I was born in Nova Scotia, and spent each summer there for close to 18 years. Am I Canadian? I donā€™t arrive in Kona till Wednesday afternoon, so I guess itā€™s a moot point. šŸ˜

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My Grandfather was from Canada.

Many triathlon roads in the sport of triathlon and the business side of it have lead and been through Canada! :-)


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Ridiculous. Triathlon Canada paying AGAIN for our national governing body CEO to attend Kona. A race TriCan provides no funding to athletes for and hasnt for over 20 years. Kona Has no affiliation to the ITU OR IOC. This is a waste of my money that I am forced to pay TriCan each year with my race license purchase. These are funds that could help our Olympic hopefuls

After writing TriCan about this subject this winter I received a response that effectively said they got this, no need to question, nothing to see here.

Meanwhile just this winter one of our Olympic hopeful athletes had to take legal action to receive their Sport Canada funding that flows thru TriCan.

But yeah, lets spend thousands sending our CEO to Kona.

System broken. No way I'm attending any event KVB attends.

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I'm going to guess that a lot of meetings occur during Kona and that deals get done.

Washed up footy player turned Triathlete.
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I'm going to guess that a lot of meetings occur during Kona and that deals get done.


This is true.

Many key people on the marketing and promotion side of the sport of triathlon - for brands, events, and media, are in Kona during Race Week.


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Can anyone recommend must do stuff with kids? It's my first time to the big island and will have my 7 & 9 year old boys with me. Thanks!
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Beaches: Hapuna Beach up north, the start of the IM 70.3 Hawaii as well, is probably the nicest beach on the west side. Past the Mauna Lani on the ocean (makai side), it's a state park so there will be an entrance fee (per vehicle). On the Hilo, side, the Hilo Zoo.

Some of the Zipline companies have other fun tours (roaming around the backcountry in a custom 4x4, for example). Depending upon their interest a trip to the Kona Living History Farm, a coffee farm out of the 1930's and early 40's might be fun (enough) as well.

The Hilton Waikoloa has a day program for kids as well if you're staying there, although I've been told they take outside reservations for that. Oh and their Dolphin encounter ($$$$$, plus they're not Pacific Dolphins anyway).

Others will come to me as I have my coffee this morning.


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Hapuna used to be my favorite beach up that way, but it is just too crowed now, too close to the resort..Try this one that is just down from it, kind of a secret spot, but not really. I went there with my kids almost every day while at Waikailoa, they loved it, I could get some shade and coolness after doing my swim, and there are some little waves to play in too..

https://www.lovebigisland.com/...aches/waialea-beach/
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Sean H wrote:
Can anyone recommend must do stuff with kids? It's my first time to the big island and will have my 7 & 9 year old boys with me. Thanks!

On the Hilo side, my then-4 year old loved the lava tube over by the exit from Hilo onto Saddle road, and he and I both thought the botanical gardens just north of town was pretty amazing - $15 or so bucks and a couple hours of adventure through the jungle leading down to waves crashing up onto huge rocks. I was impressed. I would have said snorkeling in Pahoa but Madame Pele scratched that from the list. Visiting the volcano is cool though. Also 2 Step for snorkeling.
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What I noticed last year is a lot of marketing $$ gets spent there. Hoka was huge. Ventum and Cliff Bar and Cervelo too. But no Trek and Specialized had new Shiv bike on the grass by Huggos with nothing in expo. A long way from their ship container bar of 2011 in expo with Whitfield Finlay Frodo Macca Alexander...all there.

If TriCan is seeking funding from product groups not sure Kona is it. If they are seeking corp sponsors no way. We are Canada. 1/10 market of USA. I mean the race itself cant get real $$ sponsorships ever since the Ford contract with a global race series why would a NGB with 225,000 members across a huge country to fund athletes for an event someone else owns on a 4 year cycle? Better served in corp Canada boardroom pitches. Maybe they should have started by calling Vega in Burnaby BC šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

Per Fleck sure lots from industry are there. Maybe some ITU dealings go on in partnership i dont know. But i cant see TriCan connecting prospects to deals via or in Kona.

Just my opinion.

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The Canadian Breakfast brought to you by Subaru Canada is on again during Race Week in Kona this year at the IRONMAN World Championships.

I just received word of this, today from Subaru Canada. 11-time IRONMAN Race Winner, Lisa Bentley will be there. As well as Triathlon Canada Executive Director Kim Van Brugan. Other notables, VIPs etc . . TBA. They have asked me to Emcee the event.

Details: Tuesday, October 8, 9am - 11am. At the Canoe Club on Alii Drive. (Right beside the Kona Inn).

If you are a Canadian athlete and you are entered in the IRONMAN World Championships, you should be receiving RSVP details for this event, directly from IM via eMail. Please respond to that.

I look forward to seeing, "Team Kanada" in Kona!
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Wait, I thought you were not going to Kona....its my first time back in 6 years. Let's connect for some rides. I'll email you offline.

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what did you call your Kona threads from previous years? I wanted to search them but can't find them.

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ericMPro wrote:
what did you call your Kona threads from previous years? I wanted to search them but can't find them.

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https://forum.slowtwitch.com/...na%20coffee#p6729131
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Sean H wrote:
Can anyone recommend must do stuff with kids? It's my first time to the big island and will have my 7 & 9 year old boys with me. Thanks!


Sean, there are good recommendations above. A lot of options require a fair amount of driving so maybe plan for things in town or near town ahead of the race. Then take the longer trips post-race.

If you want to see Hilo or Pahoa Iā€™d recommend using the saddle road. The only reason to take the highway south out of Kona is to see South Point or Volcano/NP.

I donā€™t have kids and only made it to Hawaii once as a child. My brother and I had the best time on the Big Island because of the snorkeling. If your boys enjoy this check out Kahaluā€™u Beach Park at the south end of Aliā€™i. There is a small sea wall protecting a lot of the snorkeling area and entry/exit is easy from he beach.

We visit there all the time now, but early on we relied on The Big Island Revealed guide book. I think the format would be perfect for you and your wife and boys to flip thru and pick things to do together. It was just updated in May 2019: https://www.amazon.com/...ding=UTF8&btkr=1

Hope this helps!
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Thanks so much everyone for the replies! We've got plenty of ideas now, should be a great time.
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Any info on Kona fishing charters?

Let food be thy medicine...
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Sean H wrote:
Can anyone recommend must do stuff with kids? It's my first time to the big island and will have my 7 & 9 year old boys with me. Thanks!

We did an ATV tour out last Hawi one year and the kids loved it. We also did a helicopter trip that was meh. Wouldnā€™t recommend. We were all pretty much bored with it after about 10mins.
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Sean H wrote:
Can anyone recommend must do stuff with kids? It's my first time to the big island and will have my 7 & 9 year old boys with me. Thanks!

When my kids were that age, their favorite activity was boogie boarding and their favorite place to do it was Manini'owali Beach on Kua Bay, a little north of the airport. If you don't want to do a ton of driving, I think you can entertain kids just fine on the Big Island by exploring the different beaches and sampling all of the shave ice spots. At least that's what my kids liked best! I would also recommend at least one good snorkeling trip by Captain Cook Monument. We enjoyed a combo kayak/snorkel trip and my kids did that at age 9.

Enjoy!
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Kua Bay entrance is on the Makai side of the Queen K more or less across from the Vet's cemetery.


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Kona Pool shutdown:

Looks like the locals are none to pleased about the long repair time.

https://www.westhawaiitoday.com/...-down-6-to-7-months/

The reader comments at the bottom are worth reading
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Just drove back from Hilo over the saddle road; the road to maunakea is definitely still closed by all the protestors.

Slim pickings for hiking at volcano park since a lot of the trails are closed.

We made the drive down to Kaimū Beach Park to walk across the newest part of the earth. Pretty incredible to be honest.

Had a beer at Uncle Roberts and caught the end of the Sunday night football game; very interesting place and Iā€™ll just leave it at that!

Safeway in town has a killer fresh ahi poke on sale for $12/lb. The previously frozen poke they have is a little cheaper

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ericMPro wrote:
what did you call your Kona threads from previous years? I wanted to search them but can't find them.

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I've been mowing a bunch of Kikuyu grass. Rain in upcountry Hawaii leads to very fast grass growth. You can almost literally watch it grow. So, that's my excuse for missing the question.


Kona Survival Gude.

It's a bit outdated even from last year's edition. Maunakea access road is closed. The pool is closed. There are a few new businesses along Ali`i Drive and the ever-present homeless problem is worse in Kailua village atm, though they'll move out for Ironman week for the most part. Police presence is down in the village for a variety of reasons but usually pops back up for the 2 week stretch to the big dance.


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JackStraw13 wrote:
Any info on Kona fishing charters?

I'm not a fisherman. In fact, I rarely eat meat. With that said there are a few that leave from the pier and a load more from the harbor. I always liked the Bite Me charters because of the name though. I'll ask around today and see who is good. and post as soon as I have a decent answer.


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