Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf

Apr 10, 18 10:23

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Ok, this should be fun in Port Elizabeth South Africa this weekend. Amberger lead the Kona swim last year, but Wurf had the Sanders+Kienle train in Kona. Josh went went sub 8 at IM Cairns, and never let Wurf get away on the bike and then put down a 2:53 marathon. Wurf, put the hurt on Josh at IM South Africa last year.

So the game is on between the two Aussies at IM South Africa this weekend. Josh is low in KPR so needs some solid points to requalify for Kona. Wurf is likely wrapped up for Kona.

But these guys have to beat Hoffman, Cunama and a few other solid entrants in the pro field.

I traded fb messages with Josh. He was getting on the plane from Perth to Johannesburg and is ready to rip. Hopefully a solid day like he put down in Cairns (hey, I gotta cheer for the 62 kilo pro ironman guys as they are a almost a non existent species in the pro field or in the age group KQ group).

OK, go Josh (if it was not already clear who I am cheering for) , but want to see both of these guys running neck and neck right into the finish line at Nelson Mandela Bay!!!

Dev

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]

Apr 10, 18 11:56

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Gonna be a good race for sure! If Amberger is fit, Wurf will need a big run pr or a monster bike for the win. I'm rooting for wurfie, but think Hoffman will be tough to beat.

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 10, 18 11:58

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Wurf will need a big run pr or a monster bike for the win. //

Actually he will need both to win. He will lose some time in the swim, and their will be very good runners chasing him throughout the run. He needs a good lead, and he needs to have a very good run for him. Should be a good test with lots of great athletes to keep the race honest..

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [monty] [ In reply to ]

Apr 10, 18 12:04

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For sure. If Hoffman bikes a 4:25 like last year and runs low 2:40s he would need a 4:15 and 2:50 run. 10 min faster on the bike is quite probable considering he was 10 min faster in Kona, he has been doing some solid runs lately as well so maybe we will see a low 2:50 for him as well. I know how bad he wants the sub 8 so he will be going for it since Kona is in the bag anyway.

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [monty] [ In reply to ]

Apr 10, 18 12:13

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monty wrote:

Wurf will need a big run pr or a monster bike for the win. //

Actually he will need both to win. He will lose some time in the swim, and their will be very good runners chasing him throughout the run. He needs a good lead, and he needs to have a very good run for him. Should be a good test with lots of great athletes to keep the race honest..

Monty, Wurf may just be a few min behind Josh after the swim and in line with Hoffman. When it is wetsuit in salt water he can hit first pack! So really it is about how fast Wurf can run.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]

Apr 10, 18 12:15

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devashish_paul wrote:

Ok, this should be fun in Port Elizabeth South Africa this weekend. Amberger lead the Kona swim last year, but Wurf had the Sanders+Kienle train in Kona. Josh went went sub 8 at IM Cairns, and never let Wurf get away on the bike and then put down a 2:53 marathon. Wurf, put the hurt on Josh at IM South Africa last year.

So the game is on between the two Aussies at IM South Africa this weekend. Josh is low in KPR so needs some solid points to requalify for Kona. Wurf is likely wrapped up for Kona.

But these guys have to beat Hoffman, Cunama and a few other solid entrants in the pro field.

I traded fb messages with Josh. He was getting on the plane from Perth to Johannesburg and is ready to rip. Hopefully a solid day like he put down in Cairns (hey, I gotta cheer for the 62 kilo pro ironman guys as they are a almost a non existent species in the pro field or in the age group KQ group).

OK, go Josh (if it was not already clear who I am cheering for) , but want to see both of these guys running neck and neck right into the finish line at Nelson Mandela Bay!!!

Dev

I really like both Josh and Cam, but I can't see them beating Hoffman.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [vittorio] [ In reply to ]

Apr 10, 18 12:37

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Hoffman is the one to beat at IMSA.

Wurf's run is certainly getting better and his swim at Kona obviously wasn't a reflection of how well he can swim. But don't see him being close to Hoffman with 10k to go.

vittorio wrote:

devashish_paul wrote:

Ok, this should be fun in Port Elizabeth South Africa this weekend. Amberger lead the Kona swim last year, but Wurf had the Sanders+Kienle train in Kona. Josh went went sub 8 at IM Cairns, and never let Wurf get away on the bike and then put down a 2:53 marathon. Wurf, put the hurt on Josh at IM South Africa last year.

So the game is on between the two Aussies at IM South Africa this weekend. Josh is low in KPR so needs some solid points to requalify for Kona. Wurf is likely wrapped up for Kona.

But these guys have to beat Hoffman, Cunama and a few other solid entrants in the pro field.

I traded fb messages with Josh. He was getting on the plane from Perth to Johannesburg and is ready to rip. Hopefully a solid day like he put down in Cairns (hey, I gotta cheer for the 62 kilo pro ironman guys as they are a almost a non existent species in the pro field or in the age group KQ group).

OK, go Josh (if it was not already clear who I am cheering for) , but want to see both of these guys running neck and neck right into the finish line at Nelson Mandela Bay!!!

Dev

I really like both Josh and Cam, but I can't see them beating Hoffman.

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 14, 18 23:35

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Race is underway! Josh swam fast, 46:24 and had a bit over a min gap on the pack which also swam very fast. Hoffman was a min behind the pack, and Wurf another min behind. Josh is still in the lead at 50k in the bike, but Wurf is now in second and Hoffman has moved to 5th place.

On the womens side Lucy got a 5 min gap!!! after swimming 47 and still has a 5 min lead on Morel and McBride 45k into the bike with Cheetham and Pallant almost 8 min behind.

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 14, 18 23:59

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Wurf is now in the lead and has dropped Amberger and pretty sure there was some smack talk going on when he passed, but couldn't hear what he said. But the real story is Lucy MF Charles! Damn that girl can swim and bike! Crushing it solo and now has a 7 min lead, and if she keeps this pace up she will be 15 min ahead at T2.

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 0:59

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oscaro wrote:

Wurf is now in the lead and has dropped Amberger and pretty sure there was some smack talk going on when he passed, but couldn't hear what he said. But the real story is Lucy MF Charles! Damn that girl can swim and bike! Crushing it solo and now has a 7 min lead, and if she keeps this pace up she will be 15 min ahead at T2.

Agree Lucy is on fire. Now she just needs to focus on landing at Kona at absolute peak!

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [lassekk] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 1:18

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What is she wearing? Long shoe covers? Also gloves...
The aeria hydration... looks like athlete who has most interest in aerodynamics is Lucy.. would be nice to know how she has been testing that setup..

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [JanneK] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 1:26

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I believe they are compression calf sleeves, and yeah she does seem to be very focused on being as slippery as possible. Her T1 was around 45s slower than the others, but if that saves her a few watts she makes it up quickly.

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 1:57

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coverage looks quite good for once!

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [fulla] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 2:04

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fulla wrote:

coverage looks quite good for once!

Yeah it’s strange, not much of a field and fantastic coverage, Ironman is all over the place.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 2:22

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Can someone explain what's on the front of her bike? I thought fairings were illegal - does it serve an additional purpose?
Thanks,
Sharon

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [docpeachey] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 2:25

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Do you mean her hydration? If so its a aeria ultimate.

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 2:44

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Just looked that system up - thank you!
Sharon

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 2:54

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Cam finished the bike in 4:19:44 3s off the course record. 4% are on and he looks quite good taking a loot of nutrition early. He just got a warning about his zipper lol.
5:17 gap to Burgs entering T2 but he seems to be making up some time in transition. Hoff came in 5th to T2 and Buckingham third almost 10 min behind Wurf.
Hoff is not looking too good from the start, hopefully the epic didn't take too much out of him and he will be back soon!

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 3:02

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I think Wurf might be able to hang on. The second half of the marathon will be critical obviously.

Lucy is amazing as well!

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

bluefever

Apr 15, 18 3:02

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Must say, Wurf is pretty impressive.

Olympic rower, pro cyclist and now pro IM athlete. And all by age 34.

Plus he's a hoot in interviews.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [turdburgler] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 3:06

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Man I've had a good laugh at the commentators saying "It's been proven time and time again that if you are in a good position in the second half of the marathon, you have a good chance of finishing well"
Jokes aside, props to them, can't be easy trying to find things to talk about for 8h.
Hoping Wurfie hangs on, he's a fresh breeze in the sport.

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 3:07

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oscaro wrote:

I believe they are compression calf sleeves, and yeah she does seem to be very focused on being as slippery as possible. Her T1 was around 45s slower than the others, but if that saves her a few watts she makes it up quickly.

I was curious how long it took her to put all that on, that’s not too bad at all. And when you get a 5 min gap you can afford to do so.

The IM instagram post with swim start videos is amazing, Lucy dropped all those girls in less than 50m. She was hauling.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [Sean H] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 3:13

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Sean H wrote:

oscaro wrote:

I believe they are compression calf sleeves, and yeah she does seem to be very focused on being as slippery as possible. Her T1 was around 45s slower than the others, but if that saves her a few watts she makes it up quickly.

I was curious how long it took her to put all that on, that’s not too bad at all. And when you get a 5 min gap you can afford to do so.

The IM instagram post with swim start videos is amazing, Lucy dropped all those girls in less than 50m. She was hauling.

Lucy and Daniela are going to fight this year in Kona. I think Lucy is going to start winning.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [Sean H] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 3:22

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No I agree it went quite quickly! Saw a few other pros with calf sleeves as well!

Wurf just passed 8k averaging 3:50, which is 2:41 pace. Certainly if he can keep this pace up no one will have a chance! He needs a sub 2:45 to break 8 which is of course a massive pr.

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 3:27

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Has something happened with Hoffman? Looks like his first 2.6km or whatever took over 20 min?

I'm a big fan of Wurf, but no way is he holding that pace. Ii my hoping he can run 2:55, that should put him in the mix here

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [rock] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 3:34

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Not sure what happened, but he's walking.
Yeah I know he will most likely slow down quite a bit, I just know that is a big motivator for him, so I think he will be going for it either way! Buckingham looks good.

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [rock] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 3:36

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rock wrote:

Has something happened with Hoffman? Looks like his first 2.6km or whatever took over 20 min?

I'm a big fan of Wurf, but no way is he holding that pace. Ii my hoping he can run 2:55, that should put him in the mix here

He looked horrible off the bike, commentators said his back was all strapped up.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [TriguyBlue] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 3:47

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Just showing him walking and talking--doesn't even look comfortable walking---they are discussing his fall at Cape Epic race.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 4:33

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Looks like Wurf will be caught pretty soon, hopefully he will hold on to third at least.
Lucy is still running fast!

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 5:26

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Wurf down to 4th.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [kart17] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 5:34

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The coverage rocks for a change. I like seeing the four lap format seeing the leader lapping guys who are 9 hour ironmen at the end of lap four. Josh just passed Lucy kid of cool they can see how each others races are going.

They constantly try to escape from the darkness outside and within
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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [kart17] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 5:34

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Yeah too bad, he looked good until halfway, so it seems likely his running base just isn't there yet.
2nd for Burgs is gonna be great for his kpr hunt.
Also looks like Hoffman is pulling a Frodeno, Major props!

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 5:39

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oscaro wrote:

Yeah too bad, he looked good until halfway, so it seems likely his running base just isn't there yet.
2nd for Burgs is gonna be great for his kpr hunt.
Also looks like Hoffman is pulling a Frodeno, Major props!

Wow, I just tuned in (serves me right for sleeping in) and South African Kyle Buckingham has pulled past everyone and is having the race of hiis life. He's just out of Nelson Mandela University and down to the final 2K "victory lap" along the ocean front! This should be a low 8:1x for Kyle with Josh 3 min behind!

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 5:44

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The finish was awesome to watch! Must have felt amazing for him, the race of his life in his hometown.

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 5:54

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oscaro wrote:

The finish was awesome to watch! Must have felt amazing for him, the race of his life in his hometown.

Let's see if these screen captures work...hopefully it gets some of you excited for 70.3 World's in the same place

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 5:56

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Chapeau to Josh, well paced and solid day all around

Bummed out that I lost track of time and slept in for the bike!

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 6:01

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Podium: Congrats to Kyle, first IM win since his win at IMLP

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 6:05

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Really nice run by Kyle: 2:48, Josh 2:53, Wurf: 3:05

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 6:37

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And LP Stormo as well, 2:53 and 8:42 for top amateur...

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 7:41

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Lucy Charles' sub 5 bike and 3:05 run feels like it can be enough to put her in contention with Ryf at Kona. Lucy is only 24 and her run will just get better, but with that swim she does not need to run sub 2:55. I think if she runs close to 3 hours in Kona with a men's front pack equivalent swim (she swam 47.5 and Josh did 46.5), she can just win the race by T2. Also keep in mind last year she did Lanza + Frankfurt+Kona all at full throttle. I wonder what her schedule is this year. Hopefully she is more fresh for Kona.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [turdburgler] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 8:16

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turdburgler wrote:

Sean H wrote:

oscaro wrote:

I believe they are compression calf sleeves, and yeah she does seem to be very focused on being as slippery as possible. Her T1 was around 45s slower than the others, but if that saves her a few watts she makes it up quickly.

I was curious how long it took her to put all that on, that’s not too bad at all. And when you get a 5 min gap you can afford to do so.

The IM instagram post with swim start videos is amazing, Lucy dropped all those girls in less than 50m. She was hauling.

Lucy and Daniela are going to fight this year in Kona. I think Lucy is going to start winning.

She's only going to get better Lucy, maybe not this year but maybe next it's going to be not much between them?

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Apr 15, 18 8:57

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]

bluefever

Apr 15, 18 10:39

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devashish_paul wrote:

Thanks for the photos.

Wurf looked unhappy crossing the line, didn't he? I think he expected more. I thought he had a good race.

Kyle Buckingham looked very good on the run, and it was nice to see the emotion at the end.

The coverage was good as well, it's a shame they don't have it more often. What made a real difference vs Hawaii was having good co-commentators. Jame Cunnama (spelling?) was really good! As was the other guest (was it Tissink?). Lots of time explaining the working of the race, and they knew who was who - they far outdid the Hawaii commentary.

And what a scenic race!!!

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 10:53

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devashish_paul wrote:

Lucy Charles' sub 5 bike and 3:05 run feels like it can be enough to put her in contention with Ryf at Kona. Lucy is only 24 and her run will just get better, but with that swim she does not need to run sub 2:55. I think if she runs close to 3 hours in Kona with a men's front pack equivalent swim (she swam 47.5 and Josh did 46.5), she can just win the race by T2. Also keep in mind last year she did Lanza + Frankfurt+Kona all at full throttle. I wonder what her schedule is this year. Hopefully she is more fresh for Kona.

What was Lucy's final time, how much did she win by, what place OA, who finished 2nd and 3rd among the women, etc??? The IM web site has no results up yet. Thanks!!!!

"Anyone can be who they want to be IF they have the HUNGER and the DRIVE."

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [bluefever] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 10:53

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I missed the first half, doesn’t look like I can jump back to the start. Anyone able to do this?

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 11:01

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oscaro wrote:

Also looks like Hoffman is pulling a Frodeno, Major props!

I REALLY wish Hoffman pulled the plug. He was in a huge bit of pain. Frodo went 4:0X jogging and cheering people on. Hoffman was, 6:42? And every step looked like it hurt. That's just not a great thing to do to the body. I respect the heck out of Ben for doing it...I just wish he didn't for recovery and longevity of it all.

Brent

DFRU - Detta Family Racing Unit...the kids like it and we all get out and after it...gotta keep the fam involved!

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [JanneK] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 11:38

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I assume she is rocking the Aeria stem buried in there, and what looks like the Enve bars with some very custom arm/elbow rests, plenty of tilt, etc. Also note the Endura suit.

Being a brit, my guess is that she went to see Simon Smart.

This makes me rethink my previous decision not to bother designing up a way to mount the Aeria to my Shiv, which is currently rocking Ventus II bars.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [dfru] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 11:39

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I would think a 6:42 hike is a quick recovery in that he basically did a hard swim-bike and a long walk. No pounding, just some dehyration. Good on him for finishing. I just checked Hoffman's KPR and he has 3845 points with no points from 70.3. If he wins a 70.3 or better yet, gets some good points at a 70.3 regional championship he ends up with enough points to qualify for Kona and does not need to do another Ironman, so the the long walk may pan out to be a good strategic move.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [bluefever] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 12:29

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Yeah Wurf did not look happy.
I think the best part of the race was when he ran out of his way to find a trash can when he was in the lead

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 13:05

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3845 is enough without any 70.3 results. Now he has validated and can focus on Kona, still not bad for the hoff!

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Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [oscaro] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 13:11

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oscaro wrote:

3845 is enough without any 70.3 results. Now he has validated and can focus on Kona, still not bad for the hoff!

Yes, Hoffman should be pretty well in Kona or really close. Does anyone know how many points you get now for a regional championship this year?

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [bluefever] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 14:19

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Totally agree bluefever! He undoubtedly was disappointed as he crossed the finish line as I believe he really saw a podium in him for sure and from what i"ve seen from him in interviews he was gunning for the win. Amazing talent and I can only see him getting better. I believe a good 70.3 result and he is in Kona. Awesome to see what his race plan for 2018 is and his next steps will be exciting!

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [Alfredo] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 14:35

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Alfredo wrote:

Totally agree bluefever! He undoubtedly was disappointed as he crossed the finish line as I believe he really saw a podium in him for sure and from what i"ve seen from him in interviews he was gunning for the win. Amazing talent and I can only see him getting better. I believe a good 70.3 result and he is in Kona. Awesome to see what his race plan for 2018 is and his next steps will be exciting!

Wurf already had over 2800 KPR points before the race today. I would think he accrued enough more today to get into Kona with no more racing if he chose to.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 14:47

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I believe this was the first of 8 full distance 140.6 races Cam has planned for the year...

At a certain point, you’d think that ~15 plus Ironman races in 2 seasons catches up with you, wouldn’t it?

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [MadTownTRI] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 14:54

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MadTownTRI wrote:

I believe this was the first of 8 full distance 140.6 races Cam has planned for the year...

At a certain point, you’d think that ~15 plus Ironman races in 2 seasons catches up with you, wouldn’t it?

What are Cam's next races? This is awesome news if you are Lionel and Sebi....Cam just becomes your super domestique because he can never be a threat on the run on the Petr Vanbrousek plan!

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 15:53

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Good to hear! He could focus on doing several 70.3 testing himself in deep fields whilst working on his run speed without going through a 2017 season where he did multiple 140.6 and I would think his body felt during and post Kona. Really exciting for what's coming! Quite possibly 2018 generating more hype than I ever remember for a previous Kona.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 16:36

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Believe me, I hope you are 100% right and I am wrong - just looked incredibly uncomfortable out there. A 6:42 hike with a bad back sucks no matter what. I mean...I have no idea. If my back was hurt and I was hobbling, I wouldn't have walked a marathon.

In the end, heal up Hoff, and he's into Kona without blasting his legs with a marathon and we can assume that the back will sort itself out. Save his best for October!

Brent

DFRU - Detta Family Racing Unit...the kids like it and we all get out and after it...gotta keep the fam involved!

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 17:28

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He was one of the interviews on IM talk last week. Similiar slate to last year, IIRC correctly, but also Roth.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [dfru] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 17:30

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dfru wrote:

Believe me, I hope you are 100% right and I am wrong - just looked incredibly uncomfortable out there. A 6:42 hike with a bad back sucks no matter what. I mean...I have no idea. If my back was hurt and I was hobbling, I wouldn't have walked a marathon.

In the end, heal up Hoff, and he's into Kona without blasting his legs with a marathon and we can assume that the back will sort itself out. Save his best for October!

Brent

Sorry, I did not realize his back was hurt. That's a different problem. Hopefully it can heal up before Kona!

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [MadTownTRI] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 17:56

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MadTownTRI wrote:

I believe this was the first of 8 full distance 140.6 races Cam has planned for the year...

At a certain point, you’d think that ~15 plus Ironman races in 2 seasons catches up with you, wouldn’t it?

Yep usually does. Shortening the length of his career for sure. Hopefully he can strike while the iron is hot.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]

Apr 15, 18 18:06

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devashish_paul wrote:

MadTownTRI wrote:

I believe this was the first of 8 full distance 140.6 races Cam has planned for the year...

At a certain point, you’d think that ~15 plus Ironman races in 2 seasons catches up with you, wouldn’t it?

What are Cam's next races? This is awesome news if you are Lionel and Sebi....Cam just becomes your super domestique because he can never be a threat on the run on the Petr Vanbrousek plan!

i can only assume then that cam is looking to take 2 years of building IM race experience and target real results in 2019 (unless he is some freak who thrives on killing himself - cyclists often do but running is typically more damaging).
i can see some logic in that approach but that being so, i'd like to see him ride a bit more conservatively so he can have a real IM run - get the run going and then build the bike back to full power.

regardless, he's one of many making racing very interesting so great to see

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]

Apr 16, 18 0:21

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Challenge Roth for Lucy Charles this summer.

Deceptively slow.

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [Speckled Hen] [ In reply to ]

Apr 16, 18 5:38

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Speckled Hen wrote:

Challenge Roth for Lucy Charles this summer.

Is Felix going to get Daniela Ryf on the startline at Roth too? That would be awesome!

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [MadTownTRI] [ In reply to ]

Apr 16, 18 12:32

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MadTownTRI wrote:

I believe this was the first of 8 full distance 140.6 races Cam has planned for the year...

At a certain point, you’d think that ~15 plus Ironman races in 2 seasons catches up with you, wouldn’t it?

Did you just see Kawauchi at Boston. That guy seems to race a marathon every other week while working full time.

But I agree. That plan certainly doesn't work for everyone and it would be wise to play it with caution.

10k - 30:48 / half - 1:06:40

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [CU427] [ In reply to ]

Apr 16, 18 12:35

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CU427 wrote:

MadTownTRI wrote:

I believe this was the first of 8 full distance 140.6 races Cam has planned for the year...

At a certain point, you’d think that ~15 plus Ironman races in 2 seasons catches up with you, wouldn’t it?

Yep usually does. Shortening the length of his career for sure. Hopefully he can strike while the iron is hot.

Pink: How long does his ironman career need to be?
Coming from rowing and cycling already, maybe he is going for the olympics in xc skiing.

10k - 30:48 / half - 1:06:40

Re: Kona Front Pack Rehearsal at IM South Africa: Amberger - Wurf [ToBeasy] [ In reply to ]

Apr 16, 18 13:48

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Cam's interview at the IM Talk podcast is very interesting.

His race schedule for this year is almost unbelieveable, but he says he is used to doing a lot of very big training days and a many of said races are gonna be approached like a training day. Not that I know of many pro's training regimes, but His training also seems very extreme.

Anyway, it's interesting that he mentions that since he is 34 he hasn't got a lot of time to ease into it while Talanksy is taking the exact opposite route. I guess Andrew is a bit younger, but stil...

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