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2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread
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i suspect dev will initiate the actual 100/100 sticky thread, but i thought i'd start "grievances" early, as there has been a lot of talk already about the 100/100, making sure it's going to take place, etc & so forth.

so, here is where you complain that the 100/100 is ill-conceived, or talk about last year's success/failure, or evince unbridled enthusiasm about the exercise. or other.

here is where one would enter. we are trying to get our training log to integrate with strava before the challenge begins. we have a little training log debugging to do, i don't know if you can see WHO enters a challenge before the challenge actually commences and people start putting up sessions. seeing if we can change that.

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Dan Empfield
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I am in for 100 sweet delights in 100 days
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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My grievance is that this stupidity has lasted this long....we started in 2006-07. So 12 years later it is like a cockroach that you can't kill and keeps coming back to life after the fall leaves are gone and the winter kicks in for us Northern Hemisphere people!!! OK, I am in for some shuffling....awaiting to see if I can get in for a disc surgery but in the mean time some shuffling on the treadmill is possible. Ideally I should do more running in 100 day than swimming....that would be around 350K-400K given my current fishiness trend.
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Herbert] [ In reply to ]
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....I thought I felt a ripple in the force. I actually thought of this today for God only knows why. Like lemmings off a cliff, I shall line up with the other ST trolls on 15 December to pursue the fool's errand of 100/100. Probably my 5th year.....high water mark was somewhere in the low 60's a few years back. Without the challenge, the count would be around 25. So I've got that going for me. Look forward to the smack, whining, bitching and SMH stupidity that graces the threads orbiting this annual challenge. It's official: I have no life. Carry on peeps.
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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water running should count

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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Dr. Tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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Dr. Tigerchik wrote:
water running should count

I propose that you can count all the water running you want after you complete the warmup set of 20x50m fly on 50 seconds coming in sub 40. After that water run till you are blue in the face....if not we revert to counting all the forms that were previously allowed....run on pavement, on track, on sand, on snow, on treadmill. Both feet need to leave the medium you are landing on and be in the air during every stride if not that does not count as running. Basically we use the inverse rule to olympic race walking...in that sport, at least one foot has to always be on the ground....in 100/100 if it qualifies for 100/100 you'd get a DQ at Olympic race walking!!!!
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I think you mean the complement, not the inverse

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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I was just about to come on here and air my grievance that in 2017 I still need to manually enter my runs when every other app and device I use (Garmin, Strava, Trainerroad, Trainingpeaks, Fitbit...) integrate (mostly) seamlessly, but you've already anticipated that one!

Looking forward to having a decent crack at this challenge for the first time, it's always piqued my interest but this year some major life changes have meant I'm enjoying my running more than I have in a very long while. Will see if I'm still enjoying it in ~4 months time... Good luck with that Strava integration
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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My usual complaint is that it starts too early after the Honolulu marathon, but not too bad this year -- 5 days after.

Bring it on!
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Every year I enter the 100/100 to get into run shape. This year I approach it running more than I ever have and that freaks me out even more. I'm scared of how to handle it now. Prolly gonna do lots of doubles and take at least one day off a week. I'll need to reflect on a new approach.

Oh....and I'm bringing more friends into it this year.

Ian

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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I am a-grieved that so many of you over achievers will do well over 100. It isn'’t a 200/100 Challenge. Y'’all should have your own separate challenge!

I hit 90/100 last year. Aiming for 100/100 this year. With the challenge ending on a wonky day (something like March 24?) it is a good way to get through tax season without emerging with that stereotypical fat frumpy CPA look. Work every day. Run every day. It’s on.

Hillary Trout
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Born a swimmer, borrowed a bike, laced up some runners, and the rest just fell into place for a solid MOP life.
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I'm a FOP swimmer, MOP biker and DFL runner... this is exactly what I need...

can you run indoors/treadmill?
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [SLOgoing] [ In reply to ]
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SLO, game on!

"Ain't no shortcuts to the Opry."
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [RonanIRL] [ In reply to ]
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RonanIRL wrote:
I'm a FOP swimmer, MOP biker and DFL runner... this is exactly what I need...

can you run indoors/treadmill?


Is there a rules thread to go with this?

Asking for a friend who owns an elliptical....
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [RonanIRL] [ In reply to ]
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RonanIRL wrote:
I'm a FOP swimmer, MOP biker and DFL runner... this is exactly what I need...

can you run indoors/treadmill?

I'm a DFL swimmer, MOP biker and FOP runner. I'm waiting for the Guppy Challenge to be posted :-).

DeSoto Sports
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Kula] [ In reply to ]
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Kula wrote:
My usual complaint is that it starts too early after the Honolulu marathon, but not too bad this year -- 5 days after.

Bring it on!

Starts too early for me, as I'll be taking a few days off after the Austin Marathon (Feb 18th)

A month window on the start/end would be great. (ie. pick your own start date for the 100)
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [SteveM] [ In reply to ]
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This should help for getting into shape for Los Angeles Marathon! :)

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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Impulse-Warp] [ In reply to ]
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Impulse-Warp wrote:
RonanIRL wrote:
I'm a FOP swimmer, MOP biker and DFL runner... this is exactly what I need...

can you run indoors/treadmill?


Is there a rules thread to go with this?

Asking for a friend who owns an elliptical....

So, I can't speak for how people will interpret this, but since I own the SQL query, the current implementation will count any training log entry that counts as running with at least 30 minutes duration during the challenge period. This means, "Running", "Trail Running", "Treadmill", and "Snowshoe Running".

We've got two weeks to nail down any differences of opinion. Ready.... go!!

-Eric
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Impulse-Warp] [ In reply to ]
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Impulse-Warp wrote:
Is there a rules thread to go with this?

Asking for a friend who owns an elliptical....

devashish_paul wrote:
Both feet need to leave the medium you are landing on and be in the air during every stride if not that does not count as running.

I think that's a no to elliptical
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I need this. More than last year. I crapped out around 50 something and the last bunch were pretty shitty with something like other day making up time for the previous run.

PS my grievance is only with myself!
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Impulse-Warp] [ In reply to ]
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Impulse-Warp wrote:
RonanIRL wrote:
I'm a FOP swimmer, MOP biker and DFL runner... this is exactly what I need...

can you run indoors/treadmill?


Is there a rules thread to go with this?

Asking for a friend who owns an elliptical....

rules are coming. i'm giving dev a chance to catch up on his work obligations. here are last year's rules.


Dan Empfield
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I would like it to be a true 100 runs in 100 days challenge rather than the look at me I can run before AND after work challenge.

Basically, did you run 30min today? Yes, great! you get a gold star. I don't want to hear about how long you went yesterday, so you are going to take a day off. No run, no gold star.

You have a race during the challenge, that's a you problem. Your wife gave birth during the challenge, that's a you problem. You have to travel for work during the challenge, that's a you problem.

After nearly 10 years of streak running including a current streak of 2 years with 3mi/day, I don't want to hear excuses, just shut up and run.

Thanks, I've been keeping that in all year.

Oui, mais pas de femme toute de suite (yes, but I am not ready for a woman straight away) -Stephen Roche's reply when asked whether he was okay after collapsing at the finish in the La Plagne stage of the 1987 Tour
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Vincible wrote:
I would like it to be a true 100 runs in 100 days challenge rather than the look at me I can run before AND after work challenge.

Basically, did you run 30min today? Yes, great! you get a gold star. I don't want to hear about how long you went yesterday, so you are going to take a day off. No run, no gold star.

You have a race during the challenge, that's a you problem. Your wife gave birth during the challenge, that's a you problem. You have to travel for work during the challenge, that's a you problem.

After nearly 10 years of streak running including a current streak of 2 years with 3mi/day, I don't want to hear excuses, just shut up and run.

Thanks, I've been keeping that in all year.



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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I am an aggrieved party. Knee replacement surgery contraindicates running. Guess I'll just keep on doing my "+100/+100 do some sort of exercise" challenge. I'm at 101/101.

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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Vincible] [ In reply to ]
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Vincible wrote:
I would like it to be a true 100 runs in 100 days challenge rather than the look at me I can run before AND after work challenge.

Basically, did you run 30min today? Yes, great! you get a gold star. I don't want to hear about how long you went yesterday, so you are going to take a day off. No run, no gold star.

You have a race during the challenge, that's a you problem. Your wife gave birth during the challenge, that's a you problem. You have to travel for work during the challenge, that's a you problem.

After nearly 10 years of streak running including a current streak of 2 years with 3mi/day, I don't want to hear excuses, just shut up and run.

Thanks, I've been keeping that in all year.

dev makes the rules. i'm just a singer in a rock and roll band.


Dan Empfield
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Hi all! how can I sync Strava to Slowtwitch, is it possible? (newbie to Strava here)
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [MarioTB] [ In reply to ]
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MarioTB wrote:
Hi all! how can I sync Strava to Slowtwitch, is it possible? (newbie to Strava here)

we hope to have that functionality finished by the start of the 100/100. we're close! the workouts will sync to our training log. theoretically.


Dan Empfield
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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It would be nice to allow a minimum of 5K or 3 miles instead of 30 minutes. This would also allow 4x1 mile or 6x800 (plus 400 warmup) speed workouts. If it's not too complex, you could put a required average pace on the runs under 30 minutes to keep it from being too easy. It's a little odd to count a 30-minute 5K but not a 20-minute 5K.
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Slowman wrote:
MarioTB wrote:
Hi all! how can I sync Strava to Slowtwitch, is it possible? (newbie to Strava here)


we hope to have that functionality finished by the start of the 100/100. we're close! the workouts will sync to our training log. theoretically.

Nice! thanks so much Dan!
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [xpda] [ In reply to ]
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xpda wrote:
It would be nice to allow a minimum of 5K or 3 miles instead of 30 minutes. This would also allow 4x1 mile or 6x800 (plus 400 warmup) speed workouts. If it's not too complex, you could put a required average pace on the runs under 30 minutes to keep it from being too easy. It's a little odd to count a 30-minute 5K but not a 20-minute 5K.

i think if you ran 4 x 1mi, with the rest interval, you could count your rest interval. so, as long as this was an active workout, with the rest being no more than is necessary to achieve the desired interval workout effect, you'd get the whole time start to finish as your allotted time. that is what my best sense tells me.


Dan Empfield
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Tri3] [ In reply to ]
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Tri3 wrote:
SLO, game on!

You better start running. I’m gonna catch you this time!!

Hillary Trout
San Luis Obispo, CA

Born a swimmer, borrowed a bike, laced up some runners, and the rest just fell into place for a solid MOP life.
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [marcag] [ In reply to ]
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marcag wrote:
Impulse-Warp wrote:

Is there a rules thread to go with this?

Asking for a friend who owns an elliptical....


devashish_paul wrote:
Both feet need to leave the medium you are landing on and be in the air during every stride if not that does not count as running.


I think that's a no to elliptical

This is correct. Both feet have to leave the medium you are landing on during every stride.....does not matter if you land on pavement, sand, snow, gravel, treadmill deck, a boardwalk, a concrete runway outsprinting an F-18 with F404 turbofans or if you are running in the Kentucky Derby on mud trying to win the triple crown....you need to take flight on every stride. Heck, you can include water running if your entire body launches out of the water, leaves the water, is suspended in air and then you come back down on the water. If you are Jesus, you would not sink and just launch into the next stride....the rest of us will sink making it harder to launch into the air on the next stride.

Seriously, we all know what real running is. If you have to ask if what you were doing is running good chance it is not. It's like what I told my son when he was 7....if you have to ask me for permission for something you think might transgress family rules/values, you probably don't have to ask because you already know yourself what the answer is. He's 21 now and it's work pretty good. . Just do real running and it does not matter what surface you are on and what you are wearing on your feet (spikes, hokas, snowshoes, studded screws on your Newtons to run on ice....we don't care....just run dammit)!!!!

Now where is the festivus pole? I got the soup Nazi coming over this afternoon if you guys get out of line. Gotta go prepare for some VC meetings. If I am successful, then this place will have to police itself during 100/100....if I fail, I will have a ton of time to be a pain in the butt....hopefully you don't have to air the grievance that I have too much time to devote around here!
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Dr. Tigerchik] [ In reply to ]
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Dr. Tigerchik wrote:
I think you mean the complement, not the inverse

Gawd.

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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I'm in if y'all can get the auto sync to work.

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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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I don't Strava, nor do I have a GPS watch, so manual entries are fine with me

How lazy are you people that if you can't sync your device to the Log, you won't take a minute to hop over and enter it manually?

I mean, you're already here anyway, right? Afraid you're gonna miss something?

As for the whole "Body Is A Temple" thing? Well, many ancient deities often enjoyed offerings of Sweets and Intoxicants
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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I'm going to be running a shitload regardless. This seems like it will be fun, but what I don't need is something else I have to do, like manually logging miles that are already automatically logged from my garmin to my training peaks and strava accounts.

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I think you mean the complement, not the inverse
Gawd.

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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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Sean H wrote:
I'm in if y'all can get the auto sync to work.

I'm about 90% of the way there, Sean, so I feel safe in saying yes, it will be there.

-Eric
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [xpda] [ In reply to ]
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xpda wrote:
It would be nice to allow a minimum of 5K or 3 miles instead of 30 minutes.

This was proposed last year, as well

sch340 wrote:
RandMart wrote:
B.McMaster wrote:
How about we drop the "threshold" to 3.1 miles or 30 minutes?


During the Summer, I hosted the 2016 Screaming Tortise [It Only FEELS Endless] Endless Summer 100 Days / 100 Runs Challenge, wherein the minimum was 3 miles or 30 minutes

However, for the Slowtwitch crowd, who can probably drop a 24:00 5K without much trouble, what's another 6 minutes? Granted, we're all pressed for time, but ... it's SIX minutes!!!

Agree with keeping it to 30 minutes.. the challenge is about consistency not speed - no temptations to race through the 3.1 miles to get done faster.

Also, the Challenge is for % days out of 100; no prizes for how many MILES you run on those days

As for the whole "Body Is A Temple" thing? Well, many ancient deities often enjoyed offerings of Sweets and Intoxicants
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It's a little odd to count a 30-minute 5K but not a 20-minute 5K. //

Well for most here running a 20 or under 5K would be a race, or race effort type of run. So add in a little warm up and warm down and you got your 30 minutes.


My interest is piqued, did we decide treadmill is ok?? I would definitely have to start there before my big body hits the road surfaces and full gravity. Perhaps this is what I need to get those pesky 15 lbs to leave the mothership..
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monty wrote:
It's a little odd to count a 30-minute 5K but not a 20-minute 5K. //

Well for most here running a 20 or under 5K would be a race, or race effort type of run. So add in a little warm up and warm down and you got your 30 minutes.


My interest is piqued, did we decide treadmill is ok?? I would definitely have to start there before my big body hits the road surfaces and full gravity. Perhaps this is what I need to get those pesky 15 lbs to leave the mothership..

Treadmill is definitely OK.

I mean, for purposes of the challenge. It's the fastest path to madness that I'm aware of :-D :-D :-D

-Eric
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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Good deal, thx

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EricTheBiking wrote:
Treadmill is definitely OK.

I mean, for purposes of the challenge. It's the fastest path to madness that I'm aware of :-D :-D :-D

-Eric

Yeah, I frequently count on it December-March

As for the whole "Body Is A Temple" thing? Well, many ancient deities often enjoyed offerings of Sweets and Intoxicants
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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Treadmill should be in!

For us in the colder parts of the country, this might be the only way to log miles due to inclement conditions, cold, darkness, etc.

Anyone want to go for 150 in 100 days?
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JGell wrote:
Treadmill should be in!

For us in the colder parts of the country, this might be the only way to log miles due to inclement conditions, cold, darkness, etc.

He said "Yes" = leave it alone

As for the whole "Body Is A Temple" thing? Well, many ancient deities often enjoyed offerings of Sweets and Intoxicants
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You better start running. I’m gonna catch you this time!!

Catch me if you can!
PS Tomorrow is my last day of work before I retire.

"Ain't no shortcuts to the Opry."
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JGell wrote:
Treadmill should be in!

For us in the colder parts of the country, this might be the only way to log miles due to inclement conditions, cold, darkness, etc.

Anyone want to go for 150 in 100 days?


My grievance.....can't you guys even read what has already been covered on this stupid thread?
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devashish_paul wrote:
JGell wrote:
Treadmill should be in!

For us in the colder parts of the country, this might be the only way to log miles due to inclement conditions, cold, darkness, etc.

Anyone want to go for 150 in 100 days?


My grievance.....can't t you guys even read what has already been covered on this stupid thread?

Newbies with less than 1,000 posts should be decremented accordingly

As for the whole "Body Is A Temple" thing? Well, many ancient deities often enjoyed offerings of Sweets and Intoxicants
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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My only grievance is that with an injured shoulder limiting my biking and denying swimming, I have no excuse not to do this challenge. Damn.
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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can i wear my vaporfly 4% and if so does the run have to be 30x1.04 min long to count?

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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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A first World Slowtwitcher's Airing of Grievances:
-I have to run 100 days straight...FML
-Guppy Challenge at the same time, how can i train in more than one sport at a time...Where's my Netflix and chill time
-Strava won't link with Slowtwitch...WTF
-I have to open a website to log my run...JFC is this 1995
-Can I take the sabbath off by banking more on Friday? No...Oy Vey
-Wait can't I count my rest interval if the treadmill is moving and I'm not...How can I Instagram?
-I could win free stuff...meh
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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My main grievance is that I will be doing a weekend of racing the weekend before this starts.
I want two days of credit!

I won't get anywhere near 100 - honestly 30 would be pretty good for me. Last year I only got to about 20.
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Vermej1] [ In reply to ]
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Vermej1 wrote:
A first World Slowtwitcher's Airing of Grievances:
-I have to run 100 days straight...FML
-Guppy Challenge at the same time, how can i train in more than one sport at a time...Where's my Netflix and chill time
-Strava won't link with Slowtwitch...WTF
-I have to open a website to log my run...JFC is this 1995
-Can I take the sabbath off by banking more on Friday? No...Oy Vey
-Wait can't I count my rest interval if the treadmill is moving and I'm not...How can I Instagram?
-I could win free stuff...meh

Slowman, I vote this as a thread winner and worth of a prize just for all star grievance airing!!!

Dev
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Dev,

1st - honored to receive a recognition from a slowtwitch legend

2nd - now I HAVE to sign up for this crazy shenanigan...fml for real
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Vermej1 wrote:
Dev,

1st - honored to receive a recognition from a slowtwitch legend

2nd - now I HAVE to sign up for this crazy shenanigan...fml for real

LOL, I thought you were going to complain that your most awesome pat on the back had not arrived by FEDEX yet....

So my complaint is that FEDEX pickup guy did not come...so no prizes yet. All those high price subscriptions we pay to Slowman can hopefully cover some high price gifts during the challenge. My subscription fees keep going up 20% on my zero dollar base every year for the last 14 years and it is really getting out of hand at this point. If the zero dollar prizes are not good, I might need to ask for a massive rebate on my zero dollar ST subscription (this entire place is starting to feel like a show about nothing)....well the Festivus pole is over there -------------->

Keep airing the grievances....only 15 days left before the real running. I hear that Rob Gray who won Ultraman hawaii with a 10 min walk 1 min run strategy is complaining that this challenge won't give him credit for a 6:59 RUN and rather we would only give him credit for 6:18 run and a 41 minute walk gets deducted and since none of his walks were 30 min long separating his runs, he only gets credit for one really lame long 6:18 run and we deducted both the 41 minutes of walking and associated distance from him. Tough rules around this place!
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So how does one enroll? Pressing 'enroll' doesn't seem to do anything for me...
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Don't worry about enrolling until Dec 14th. I'll check in with slowboss and slowstarr or slowericthebiking to find out what is going on.
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Slowtwitch intern webmaster at it again:


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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Vermej1] [ In reply to ]
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Slowtwitch intern webmaster at it again:


Well that can't be any of us slowtwitch guys. You can tell because "c-a-t" is spelled correctly.

Clicking "enroll" should work for everybody. Strava integration is proceeding apace. By Monday we ought to be able to see the full list of participants BEFORE the challenge period begins.

Some of the rest of the grievances seem totally valid, though. :^)

-SlowEricTheBiking
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Vincible] [ In reply to ]
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I would like it to be a true 100 runs in 100 days challenge rather than the look at me I can run before AND after work challenge.

Basically, did you run 30min today? Yes, great! you get a gold star. I don't want to hear about how long you went yesterday, so you are going to take a day off. No run, no gold star.

You have a race during the challenge, that's a you problem. Your wife gave birth during the challenge, that's a you problem. You have to travel for work during the challenge, that's a you problem.

After nearly 10 years of streak running including a current streak of 2 years with 3mi/day, I don't want to hear excuses, just shut up and run.

Thanks, I've been keeping that in all year.

dilly, dilly!
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I run every day except Sunday. See that rest days are allowed. Would I simply need to insert a double run day once a week to qualify for honors?
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EricTheBiking wrote:
since I own the SQL query...

you have the power and the glory ;-)

I didn't run 100 times in 2017.. hm
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I love this challenge and I completed 100/100 runs last year. It was very hard and I skipped lots of swims and bikes to make it happen. This year I'll do my own personal 100/100 with a swim bike and/or run every day for 100 days. Not 100 runs. Much more sensible for me, anyway. Plus there are those participants who do 2 runs a day every so often and up with 100+/100 runs which is crazy and sort of cheating. But the crazy is what we sign up for if we want to do triathlons. Keep up the crazy. I want to see someone do 200 runs in 100 days! 100/100 is for the weak!
Safe training to all.
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I love this challenge and I completed 100/100 runs last year. It was very hard and I skipped lots of swims and bikes to make it happen. This year I'll do my own personal 100/100 with a swim bike and/or run every day for 100 days. Not 100 runs. Much more sensible for me, anyway. Plus there are those participants who do 2 runs a day every so often and up with 100+/100 runs which is crazy and sort of cheating. But the crazy is what we sign up for if we want to do triathlons. Keep up the crazy. I want to see someone do 200 runs in 100 days! 100/100 is for the weak!
Safe training to all.

200/100 has been done by some guys several times already. My grievance is that you have the audacity to come on this thread and say it is cheating doing double run.....sheesh man, the entire point of a sport focus is to indeed do multiple workouts of the same sport in a day....swimmers do it, runners definitely do it and so do cyclists. This is how you get good in a sport. Tell the Kenyans they are cheating!!!

OK OK, back to the proper airing of the grievances....give us something real people!!!
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I run every day except Sunday. See that rest days are allowed. Would I simply need to insert a double run day once a week to qualify for honors?

As far as this challenge is concerned, that's all good. I don't recommend this, but you could run 3x per day and get it done in a month.

-Eric
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [EricTheBiking] [ In reply to ]
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Alex M wrote:
I run every day except Sunday. See that rest days are allowed. Would I simply need to insert a double run day once a week to qualify for honors?


As far as this challenge is concerned, that's all good. I don't recommend this, but you could run 3x per day and get it done in a month.

-Eric

Well one could run 100x in one day and get it done if a day had 150 hours given that you need 1.5 to finish a 30 min run and wait 1 hour before starting the next one. Given that a day is 24 hours and a week is 168 hours, for the minimum 150 hour windwo to do 100 runs, you would need 6 days and 6 hours. So you could kind of leave it all for the last week if you wanted to, or get it all done in the first week....whatever floats your boat!
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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OK people get the grievances out of the system....it is T minus 13 days!

Hopefully everyone is running reasonably frequently right now and not on a 4 month run taper and then launch immediately into running every day straight into stress fracture land!!!
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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I don't Strava, nor do I have a GPS watch, so manual entries are fine with me

How lazy are you people that if you can't sync your device to the Log, you won't take a minute to hop over and enter it manually?

I mean, you're already here anyway, right? Afraid you're gonna miss something?



Anyone can make up numbers, and when its an internet challenge like this, I would only trust gps and/or heart rate.

Gps data for outdoor, and treadmill should have heart rate , maybe allow for a few treadmill runs without in case the battery dies, just my 2 cents.

Ill attempt this if the strava sync works. So for 30 min a day that 3 miles on easy days and 4.5 on faster. Whats the best way to approach it for someone going into it with only 20 miles a week (3-4runs) easy day every day or mix it up? Easy every day would be 21 a week but maybe Id get bored. I think treadmill should be at 1%, 0 seems like cheating.
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To make sure this is fair I want:
1. GPS files
2. HR files
3. All files verified by facial recognition software, you never know who is stealing GPS and strava files.
4. Drug testing.
5. Independent verification of all of the above.
Whaaaaaaaa!
What ever happened to strapping on a watch and running for fun!!!!! 30 minutes is 30 minutes.
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [driver_ian] [ In reply to ]
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Lol, true, this is just for fun. But I dont even trust my own results without gps and heart rate. Guess Im ocd
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To make sure this is fair I want:
1. GPS files
2. HR files
3. All files verified by facial recognition software, you never know who is stealing GPS and strava files.
4. Drug testing.
5. Independent verification of all of the above.
Whaaaaaaaa!
What ever happened to strapping on a watch and running for fun!!!!! 30 minutes is 30 minutes.

My grievance is that Sylvan and Mark Roy are not setting up sporstats timed segments around the world that are automatically uploaded into the ST challenge. That's the only way we know what is honest.....how many times have a good honest ST twitch hunt busted a course cutter with GPS fake files!!!!
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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My grievance would be that I allowed myself to get a fatass in the last 9 months through injury, then a few months of work related travel and finished by my own lazyness..

Got a half marathon planned on day 93 (or so).. so time to get my fat ass back in shape and get running!
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CP78 wrote:
I think treadmill should be at 1%, 0 seems like cheating.

That "treadmill at 1% = flat road" is a myth

https://www.runnersworld.com/...ine-treadmill-debate

https://www.runnersworld.com/...admill-running-myths

https://www.hillrunner.com/jim2/id110.html

As for the whole "Body Is A Temple" thing? Well, many ancient deities often enjoyed offerings of Sweets and Intoxicants
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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This is me since I finished my A race in September.

Not only that but I'm Irish and have to booze consistently over the Christmas period or face the wrath of my friends, family and colleagues. Can't we postpone to Jan 1 and call it our resolutions? How can I cope with the peer pressure both online and IRL?
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [RonanIRL] [ In reply to ]
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No adjustments to the timeline

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/...ost=6158787#p6158787

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The reason we start on Dec 15th is so that it ends on March 24th. Starting on Dec 15th is "early enough" that the novelty is high and people are motivated right through the holidays...basically the first 2 weeks everyone is super motivated. If I started on Dec 1st, a lot of people will already fall off the bandwagon during holiday eating season. With the start only 1 week before, pretty well everyone makes it through Xmas and New Years trying to get the runs in around family and friends and partying. It's an awesome balance.

Second reason is for many of us who live up North, ending first week of March is "too early"....there is still an entire month of winter. The last 2-3 weeks of the challenge is another phase where many put in a "final push" as they can see the end of the tunnel. This brings them to end of March just in time for a month or two of specificity before race season.

You'll just have to settle with 85 in 85, or double up to make up the "lost" time

As for the whole "Body Is A Temple" thing? Well, many ancient deities often enjoyed offerings of Sweets and Intoxicants
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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My grievance? Running is dumb.

And I'm in for 2017.

"My greatest purpose in life is to serve as a bad example"

gbassett.com
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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I missed where the start date was posted. What is it?

To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave.

Reach high, think big, work hard, have fun.
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December 15. It's always December 15

devashish_paul wrote:
The reason we start on Dec 15th is so that it ends on March 24th. Starting on Dec 15th is "early enough" that the novelty is high and people are motivated right through the holidays...basically the first 2 weeks everyone is super motivated. If I started on Dec 1st, a lot of people will already fall off the bandwagon during holiday eating season. With the start only 1 week before, pretty well everyone makes it through Xmas and New Years trying to get the runs in around family and friends and partying. It's an awesome balance.

Second reason is for many of us who live up North, ending first week of March is "too early"....there is still an entire month of winter. The last 2-3 weeks of the challenge is another phase where many put in a "final push" as they can see the end of the tunnel. This brings them to end of March just in time for a month or two of specificity before race season.

So there is some logic to the seamingly random dates. This is actually the 11th year this is going on, so between the community, myself and some vocal folks for better or worse, we've honed in on the format. Now if you have any other questions about the challenge there is the annual airing of the grievances thread to get all the complaints out of the system.

As for the whole "Body Is A Temple" thing? Well, many ancient deities often enjoyed offerings of Sweets and Intoxicants
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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My one and only grievance is if the strava integration isn't up by the time this starts. It's 2017/18 and I have to manually enter workouts?


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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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My grievance is you are letting Dave and Frank via proxy ruin the forum. Which means that the website won’t exist. Which means no airing of grievances.
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My grievance is you are letting Dave and Frank via proxy ruin the forum. Which means that the website won’t exist. Which means no airing of grievances.

Don't worry, Dave will run 150 times in 100 days and tell all of you how much you suck at running and wait till you get to 60. You heard it on the grievance thread first. My grievance is that slowman does not just get us over it, and put it in Forum rules and then instead of telling us that we suck at running and are not 60, Dave can just insert a C code pointer to that on the Forum rules.
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Grievance

who gives a rat's hiney about strava integrate with garmin we all wear one anyway that way it automatically uploads and I don't have to log what I am going to do anyway given spring marathon.

If I have to log by hand then I have to see all the boys standings competing to see whose is bigger. I have enough of that in my life

This is taper week for tomorrow's marathon (Tucson) and I am very ready to be whiney.
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meuf wrote:
Grievance

who gives a rat's hiney about strava integrate with garmin we all wear one anyway that way it automatically uploads and I don't have to log what I am going to do anyway given spring marathon.

Garmin integrates with strava ergo...garmin will be integrated with ST. Quit ye'r bitchin' !
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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How the hell am I supposed to participate if my PT won't let me run more than 5 minutes. I should be allowed to bring a doctors note and have my PT running count!
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Are there new rules yet for 2017?

I vote to simplify the rules to a 30 minute Run minimum. Forget the 15 min plus a 45 minute run the next day = two 30 minute run nonsense. I think this rule was abused a bit, and not necessarily on purpose, but due to lack of understanding.
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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48/100 last year...not sure how that happened :-) At least its something i can realistically beat this year :)

I edit my posts, a lot.
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [BT_DreamChaser] [ In reply to ]
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That is one rule change that would simplify things. Who runs 15 minutes anyways, kinda like a 30 minute bike ride.
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [dualsport] [ In reply to ]
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Get your grievances out of the way people. We start running on Friday! The 25% price hike on my zero dollar subscription to ST and the ST log is unbearable though.
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Sometimes I do a 15 minute 2 miler off my 30 minute bike ride - something is better than nothing, right?

"It's good enough for who it's for" - Grandpa Wayne
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BT_DreamChaser wrote:
I vote to simplify the rules to a 30 minute Run minimum. Forget the 15 min plus a 45 minute run the next day = two 30 minute run nonsense. I think this rule was abused a bit, and not necessarily on purpose, but due to lack of understanding.

+1

I still play by these rules. Not that I hold it against anyone using those new rules, but KISS (Keep It Simple Slowtwitch).
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That is one rule change that would simplify things. Who runs 15 minutes anyways, kinda like a 30 minute bike ride.

Any-one who runs 2.5 miles or bikes 12.5 miles. BTW - a fair number of sprint tri's or du's are that distance.
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dualsport wrote:
That is one rule change that would simplify things. Who runs 15 minutes anyways, kinda like a 30 minute bike ride.


Any-one who runs 2.5 miles or bikes 12.5 miles. BTW - a fair number of sprint tri's or du's are that distance.


Yes, but this is a 100 day Run Challenge and not a brick or race challenge.
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dualsport wrote:
B.McMaster wrote:
dualsport wrote:
That is one rule change that would simplify things. Who runs 15 minutes anyways, kinda like a 30 minute bike ride.


Any-one who runs 2.5 miles or bikes 12.5 miles. BTW - a fair number of sprint tri's or du's are that distance.


Yes, but this is a 100 day Run Challenge and not a brick or race challenge.

Agree. I was just answering your question on who runs for 15 minutes or rides for 30. Lots of people.
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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I have searched, I promise. Is the sticky up yet?
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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I wish someone would dig up the photo of the pull buoy engulfed in flames labeled ZERO SWIMS IN 100 DAYS

Mighta useta be me!

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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Kula] [ In reply to ]
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I agree. Would like to see this rule gone!
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [dualsport] [ In reply to ]
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Sadly, I ride 30 minutes, fairly often. It's what I have time for and my knees have been bothering me. I make sure I run at least twenty, not 15 :)
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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Grievance # 98. Where is the consolidated list of rules for the GD challenge?
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [devashish_paul] [ In reply to ]
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Get your grievances out of the way people. We start running on Friday! The 25% price hike on my zero dollar subscription to ST and the ST log is unbearable though.

Last day for grievances. Everyone should be grieving about how badly I'm going to crush them in this challenge. (this thread needs some good trash talk)

Strava I Instagram
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Grievance # 98. Where is the consolidated list of rules for the GD challenge?

Rules?



As for the whole "Body Is A Temple" thing? Well, many ancient deities often enjoyed offerings of Sweets and Intoxicants
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devashish_paul wrote:
Get your grievances out of the way people. We start running on Friday! The 25% price hike on my zero dollar subscription to ST and the ST log is unbearable though.


Last day for grievances. Everyone should be grieving about how badly I'm going to crush them in this challenge. (this thread needs some good trash talk)

More specifically they will be grieving on the race course weeks or months after day 100 when they are looking at the heels of your Nike Vaporfly shoes when you smoke them out of T2....at that point, all their top line ST approved benchpress FTP numbers will be useless. My final day's grievance, is that the disc surgery I am waiting for has not happened before the challenge....I was hoping to use it as an excuse, so hopefully it can happen DURING and I have a built in excuse to hound you guys from the sidelines at the virtual 100/100 track sessions.
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Sean H wrote:
Everyone should be grieving about how badly I'm going to crush them in this challenge. (this thread needs some good trash talk)

Crush all you want; you won't hear the lamentations of our women, though

As for the whole "Body Is A Temple" thing? Well, many ancient deities often enjoyed offerings of Sweets and Intoxicants
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RandMart wrote:
Sean H wrote:
Everyone should be grieving about how badly I'm going to crush them in this challenge. (this thread needs some good trash talk)


Crush all you want; you won't hear the lamentations of our women, though

Correct, I will hear them laud my dominance.

Strava I Instagram
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If that's what you're into

As for the whole "Body Is A Temple" thing? Well, many ancient deities often enjoyed offerings of Sweets and Intoxicants
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [RandMart] [ In reply to ]
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have run perhaps 40 times so far this year but gotta start somewhere so..


IN!!!

Kids need to be on their bikes ripping around, getting dirty, falling down, and getting up
~ Lance Armstrong
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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How will it work for folks in other time-zones. If we use Strava will it correctly adjust to CST or PST from GMT? Theoretically I could run twice in two days here but only count as one day there

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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [RonanIRL] [ In reply to ]
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doesn't matter. you have to do 100 runs in the 100 day time period. You can do one per day or 100 in 1 day (if there were enough minutes in 1 day to do so).

Strava I Instagram
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Sean H] [ In reply to ]
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I think the rules say otherwise!
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Re: 2017/18 100/100 Run Challenge Airing of the Grievances Thread [Slowman] [ In reply to ]
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My grievance is that for the past 5 years or so while this challenge has been on I've either been focusing on swimming, focusing on cycling, injured, coming back from injury or sick.

Maybe this year.
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