Jason80134 wrote:
gphin305 wrote:
Slowlane19 wrote:
I worked as a paramedic in a urban city. Ended up walking away from the job with a lot of new stereotypes from on the job experiences. Experiences that were repeated on a continuous occurrence. The way I was treated as a human being was night and day difference when responding to a call in the city compared to the suburbs. The lack of respect shown toward my partner and myself while trying to help people was unbelievable. We would be trying to help a complete stranger and almost become a patient ourselves. I know that police officers are respected even far more less. I could never be a police officer after seeing what I've seen. Can you imagine trying to do that job when you know that people are trying to hurt you just...because. I challenge anyone who says police are the ones causing this problem to do a "ride along" in a urban setting. Don't point fingers until you have actually experienced their point of view. They choose a career that requires them to 'protect and serve' , not sit on the computer and BS like the rest of us get to do during our "Job". They have families to get home to. People are caught in bad situations and decisions have to be made, this person or me. I'm sorry but i'm supporting the person who chose to protect and serve not the one with a criminal background. No matter white, black, or purple.
Well said. I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to several of the posters here who don't have your kind of "real world" experience. Some postings just show a high level of naivete and just don't have a grasp of the real world....especially regarding experiences law enforcement officials face in certain neighborhoods every day and night. If BLM was legit, they wouldn't have such a problem with "all lives matter".
I'm a huge supporter of law enforcement. I will always take their side and give them the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise beyond a shadow of doubt. They put their lives on the line for our benefit every day. If people don't want to get sideways with the police I would suggest refraining from criminal activity.
whelps, i'm surly glad we have cell phone cameras. otherwise you would have supported that (i believe) charleston officer that shot a man in the back and placed a taser in his hands, lying about the whole situation.
look, it's one single incident, but black people have been crying about this stuff for YEARS. perhaps, just perhaps, there is some truth behind it?
jt10000 wrote:
Slowlane19 wrote:
Can you imagine trying to do that job when you know that people are trying to hurt you just...because.
Can you imagine living in a country where you're afraid to call the police because you have seen them abuse innocent people with impunity? Where you're afraid to travel to certain states your whole life? Where you know that no matter how successful and law-abiding you are (eg James Blake, Skip Gates and many many others) if a police officer assaults or arrests you in a bogus way, other officers will rally around them? Where if you're a young person on the street, they can stop and search you without any probable cause?
Can you imagine such a thing? Some people don't have to imagine this - they're living it. You talk about a "ride along." I wish yall could try driving or living while black for a few years, just doing the same stuff you do now, See what it's about. That's your ride along. People don't have to be police. People cannot change the color of their skin.
I haven't experienced police violence first-hand (I have seen it) but I have had police follow/question me for no apparent reason other than the color of my skin. And to make this connect a little bit to endurance sport, a white friend of mine who I travelled to events with for a couple years once remarked "Wow, I never had police talk to me this much before." This was being pulled over with him driving and me in the passenger seat. We never talked about racism, politics or anything that would prompt that remark (just girls, bikes, gossip, etc). To me, that rate of being questioned by police was a normal experience.
Policing is hard. Sure. If someone can't do the job properly due to how they think the public treats they or even the public actually treating them badly, resign. That's fine. If it's too hard, they should quit. They can and should if they feel that way.
So don't dare to say that because you believe (or even in reality) the black public often treat police badly that protesting against police injustice is wrong. Police, as public servants with guns, have to be held to the highest standards. If they can't, they should turn in their guns and badges.
I back police in my city 100% on every fight they have for better wages and benefits, etc. But I do not accept that because their job is hard they should be less accountable for doing it badly.
Slowlane19 wrote:
I'm sorry but i'm supporting the person who chose to protect and serve not the one with a criminal background.
Did Tamir Rice have a criminal background? Did James Blake has a criminal background?
Eric Garner had a criminal background - does that mean he deserved death?
BOOM. preach man, preach. but seriously. do you expect to change the mind of a racists?
i'm not black, but one of my best friends is. he's a well educated man, wouldn't hurt a fly. goes to church every friday and saturday. has a great family. when we were in college and then grad school together he was pulled over at least 25 times. you're not going to believe this, but it was because he was black.
when you are not speeding, not breaking any rules of the road and have no criminal offenses or prior driving offenses and you are pulled over that many times, it is called racial profiling/racism. i once asked him why the hell he stopped at stop signs for 4 whole seconds (he counted out loud) and he said it was because he doesn't want to be pulled over and arrested. yeap, ARRESTED. this man was once arrested by a cop because the cop said he tried to crash his car into the cruiser. (story: he was parked at stop and shop and the cop waived him out, he pulled out and left stop and shop, cop pulled him over, said he tried to crash into his car and JAILED him for the night).
no one expects white people to UNDERSTAND, you never will. you'll never have any idea what it is like to live as a colored person (especially black) in this country. all they are asking is that you EMPATHIZE with their situation and maybe, just maybe realize that we are all in this together and help out.
i hear a lot of bitching on here about black on black crime, all lives matter. that shit just shows how god damn ignorant you really are to things in the world.
imagine VW's emission issues involved their petrol and diesel cars and the disel car owners were protesting how they are getting screwed. would you come along and say hey, shut up, we're all getting screwed? that's a shitty example, but that's how stupid you sound. i can use such a shitty example to demonstrate how ridiculous you sound.
the reality is very simple, black people are murdered at an incredibly high rate (for all you stat heads, look it up) compared to whites. that is of concern for BLACK people. yes, the movement is in regard of police violence, but it is particular to police violence against people who are black. how god damn hard is that to understand. how fucking racist/ignorant/prejudice do you have to be?
shouldn't you people be on the IMMD board saying that ALL races matter because those folks doing IMMD clearly don't give a fuck about any other racers, or other athletes in the region, right? no, it's not that they don't care about those races, it's that those races don't affect them.
white privilege is one of the greatest gifts you can be born with and to quote the great benjamin parker (spider mans uncle), "with great power comes great responsibility". (that was my effort of lightening the mood a little).
john
p.s.- though i do not support the actions of BLM at the TCM i can understand their cause/reason to do it and empathize with them.