Have you seen comparative data between traditional and disc versions of the ENVE wheels?

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My comment was referring to not only Cannondale but to the other manufacturers as well who have chosen to use disc brakes on their new tri bikes.
I agree that the RS and the most recent iteration of the slice were a bit disappointing.

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but then you have to deal with those annoying brakes

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Nice machine, great photo showing what can be done.

But, I'm curious, what bike is this?

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Are disc brakes going to be allowed in Kona this year?

Look, I am not saying it is definitely true, but it is possible. The flow here could be very complicated with the wheel in this area moving relatively against airflow. Does it mean these brake shoes make a disproportional impact on drag? Because clearly just looking at these things in isolation, first guess is that the calipers and brake discs would cause significantly more drag than these brake shoes and pads.

Of course, maybe what I am getting at is that we need aeroshaped brake shoes and pads.

Besides "all up mass" (which the disc wheelset is STILL ~300g heavier, despite the rims being lighter)? No....and I wonder why we haven't seen that? ;-)

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Hmmm...I don't recall mine mounting with conical washers. And I just re-centered my calipers the other day when I swapped wheels on that bike...just loosened caliper bolts, squeezed lever, tightened bolts.

Good wet performance doesn't necessarily require the Hed Blacks though...regular aluminum tracks mated with Kool Stop Salmon pads work nearly as well.

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That's not the point...the SC brakes are just one implementation.

What if ALL of the engineering horsepower that's being spent on trying to figure out how to make disc brakes viable on a TT/Tri machine from an aero standpoint was just put into creating/refining a well thought-out rim solution (hydro, anyone?) that had the same shoe presentation?

There's a lot of possible performance being left on the table in the rush to switch to separate braking discs...

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Speed Concept, apparently. It's one of the first photos I found when searching on "Speed Concept Fork" ;-)

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"Hmmm...I don't recall mine mounting with conical washers. And I just re-centered my calipers the other day when I swapped wheels on that bike...just loosened caliper bolts, squeezed lever, tightened bolts."


You didn't mount them with conical washers because Spyres don't come with them, and if you used them the pad would sit too high on the disc and would wear unevenly, over time possibly resulting in the two pads touching at the top and brake failure. Which would be bad.

But I digress.

Obviously your frame and fork has nicely-faced post mounts (mine doesn't) so the caliper can line up correctly.

Would that all framesets were so..... Fortunately Park Tool has recognized this and recently released a facing tool for disc brake mounts.

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The elevated aerobars do not seem to fit Andy Potts position as seen on his usual Cannondale Slice.

That bike is $4499.99 in the US.

http://www.cannondale.com/en/USA/Bike/ProductDetail?Id=ec6465f7-9dc6-46af-88f2-1b576d0904bc&parentid=undefined


Not sure why it's so much more expensive in Canada.

Fixed it for you ;)

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Oh weird.
It seems they have dropped a few models? There was definitely a Black model for $10k.

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Aaand I found it. Hi-Mod Black Inc.: $10,660 USD.
http://www.cannondale.com/...ee-93e9-816d3986164e

Write up on AeroGeeks describing pricing: http://aerogeeks.com/...le-slice-first-look/

Google the model, many bike shops selling it for around that price.

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From tririg's facebook feed.

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Over the past year, Cannondale has really dropped the MSRP of the various Slice models. The aerogeeks story is from 2014, and I think the prices they list have been out-of-date for the past year (I think Cannondale dropped Slice prices last fall). The Hi-Mod DA has gone from ~8,000 (Fall 2014) to ~5,200 (Fall 2015) to ~4,500 (Fall 2016).

On the Nytro website, they list the Ultimate for $7,000 (but no availability). Not sure who is currently trying to sell an Ultimate for $10,660. I did a quick Google search and I couldn't find anyone with an Ultimate in stock for that price. If I had to guess, I think the new bike might be the new "Ultimate" model from Cannondale.

Unless I am missing something, that is amazingly bad.

There is simply no way that most bike frames will have perfect disc brake mounting surfaces (heck, many--maybe most--frames don't even have properly aligned dropouts !) so I can't imagine having disc brakes where you cannot (via conical washers) adjust the caliper position.

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All those improvements (integrated front end, deeper head tube, aero chainrings, non-gatorskin tires), only to add a beard and disc brakes. Oh well. Soon he'll slowly convert completely to a recumbent rider with a helmet mirror and orange safety flag.

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Don't forget the Bont shoes. He was wearing the Shimano shoes with huge straps prior to these Bonts.

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All data points to beard being aero neutral http://www.bikeradar.com/...a-beard-video-41144/

Affirmative. Shave your legs, shave your arms... but when it comes to the face the air don't care.

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There appears to be very little 'fresh air' around the tyre below the fork crown on the new Cannondale, so that's a myth busted in short order.

The Industry just sat around a big table and decided that now was the time to push disc brakes into the triathlon market; how hard can it be to make MAMILs buy more sh1t?

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All I want to contribute is that that paint scheme is TIGHT. Simple but eye catching at same time. If only they'd offer that green to the general public and not only the pros! Maybe with the new model they will...

Found the bearded guy.

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