I''m sure there is a charitable slowtwitch KQ'er who wants their unused code to be adopted into a good home, yes?

I await a PM. ;)

Meaning crappy, overrated products or shamelessly marketing at Kona?

Saris has become the Rudy Project of power meters.

Have you done any measurements Thomas, as I'm sure when the pedals came out I worked out that stack height was around 4mm more than my Time RXS's, and they had a stack of 12.5mm.

i got my coupon code this am, will buy tommorow, but im keeping my pedals i think.. need to swap between road/tri bike and moving cranksets got annoying

They could see 100% cannibalization (would be customers, and secondary market sales to would be customers) with no incremental business based on these Kona qualifying "influencers" and the halo effect from this campaign, or they could attract incremental business well above and beyond those cannibalization offsets.


A really big problem in the bike/tri business is that everyone is on on some sort of deal. So much so that it's now a built-in expectation. Almost nothing sells at MSRP - and the margins are thin there!!

But the bike/tri business has this massive discount culture now. Both suppliers and retailers, need to position things in a more up-scale way - think Apple, Starbucks etc . . not Dunkin Donuts and Walmart.

The problem is it's so endemic now, as I said, there is this built-in expectation of a discount on everything, everywhere for everyone!

Uhhhh, wut? Sorry your internal dealings with them have been sub par apparently, but in general Saris/PT is a pretty good company to work with as a dealer.

A 2016 Nissan Versa starts at $11,990. A specialized Venge ViAS costs $12,900. Granted these are fringe examples, but we still have an industry where I can probably find a dozen different bikes that cost more than cars. How could anyone argue that the cost of design and materials for a bicycle could exceed that of a car?

I don't really see this as a problem as bike manufacturers not being "upscale" enough, I see the drive for discounts to be a reflection of the reality of the actual value of the products offered. Every year the industry pumps out tons of new products that offer only marginal gains at best over the products they are replacing. Consumers are expected to pay a huge premium to have the latest and greatest meanwhile the resale on their widget from last year falls off a cliff.

How could an informed consumer for whom money actually is a consideration justify paying a several hundred percentage premium over buying a previous model stock or a used good condition for some trivial gain (if any at all) in performance? Really, you can't, hence everyone demands some sort of deal or discount to even consider it.

I don't work in the bike industry, this is not a problem for me to solve. I am simply a consumer and frankly if manufacturers choose to dedicate their time and energy on developing products like 10k+ bikes for the 0.1% instead of delivering real value to consumers then that is their decision, just don't expect me to contribute to your bottom line.

Shouldn't it be 50% off for those who DID'NT qualify to help them train better to potentially qualify one day...

WHY??? Who gets the lowest interest rates????? Surely not the people who have the least amount of money.

A 2016 Nissan Versa starts at $11,990. A specialized Venge ViAS costs $12,900. Granted these are fringe examples, but we still have an industry where I can probably find a dozen different bikes that cost more than cars. How could anyone argue that the cost of design and materials for a bicycle could exceed that of a car?

I don't really see this as a problem as bike manufacturers not being "upscale" enough, I see the drive for discounts to be a reflection of the reality of the actual value of the products offered. Every year the industry pumps out tons of new products that offer only marginal gains at best over the products they are replacing. Consumers are expected to pay a huge premium to have the latest and greatest meanwhile the resale on their widget from last year falls off a cliff.

How could an informed consumer for whom money actually is a consideration justify paying a several hundred percentage premium over buying a previous model stock or a used good condition for some trivial gain (if any at all) in performance? Really, you can't, hence everyone demands some sort of deal or discount to even consider it.

I don't work in the bike industry, this is not a problem for me to solve. I am simply a consumer and frankly if manufacturers choose to dedicate their time and energy on developing products like 10k+ bikes for the 0.1% instead of delivering real value to consumers then that is their decision, just don't expect me to contribute to your bottom line.

The fact that P1 pedals have such a large stack height is deal breaker. I don't really understand this one. People should be trying to get as low to the ground as possible, not sit up there in the sky.

So how does this work, do you have to be a Kona qualifier AND a paying Virtual Training customer to get this code?

Or is KQ enough? That's the easy part...

He he, no "Virtual Training" required, just KQ.

First I tried to get the $299 GS hub half off, that didn't work :-(
Ordered a pair of P1 pedals that I don't really need. $600 was just too good...

Sooo, about that left/right balance, anyone ever got any use out of it?

No 50% off on the still available $299 GS hub (which is already >50% off from the original price).
Bummer.